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Bahtatboy Jun 6th 2011 1:58 pm

Polygamy
 
Ok, there are loads of unwritten caveats, but assuming that we're talking about one man taking up to four wives, he's got enough money and love to share around, and it were to happen in a society that accepts it, would you or wouldn't you enter into a polygamous marriage?

I think I can predict the outcome for the fairer sex, but not sure about us blokes.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 6th 2011 2:18 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
Don't think I would to be honest.

Don't want to sound too wet but I expect my good lady to be only mine, so I would feel like a hypocrite

Hello.Kitty Jun 6th 2011 2:43 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
I'm sorry, but polygamy is just legalised adultery. If a man can share his lurrrrve around, then why can't his wife/ wives? Why stop at an arbitrary 4? Why bother actually getting married in the first place?

You know, really, the only difference between that chap in the UK who fathered 11 children with 5 different women (or however many it was) and a man with 4 wives and loads of sprogs is a teensy slip of paper.

Bahtatboy Jun 6th 2011 2:49 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
How about if I throw into the mix a society where the number of men is severely depleted (through war, for example), such that there is a high number of women who could not marry, and the societal situation means that it is difficult for them to work and thereby support themselves?

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 6th 2011 2:51 pm

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9413612)
How about if I throw into the mix a society where the number of men is severely depleted (through war, for example), such that there is a high number of women who could not marry, and the societal situation means that it is difficult for them to work and thereby support themselves?

Did you have a vivid, post-apocalyptic, polygamous, hungarian orgy style dream last night?

kittycat1 Jun 6th 2011 2:59 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
Can a woman not have multiple husbands- it actually makes more sense as a woman can multitask so can get more stuff done than one man, whereas a man has to foucs on one thing at a time (bless them)- so in fact a woman needs 4 men to get as much stuff done as one woman! :D

Millhouse Jun 6th 2011 3:18 pm

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9413641)
Can a woman not have multiple husbands- it actually makes more sense as a woman can multitask so can get more stuff done than one man, whereas a man has to foucs on one thing at a time (bless them)- so in fact a woman needs 4 men to get as much stuff done as one woman! :D

Would this cut the -per man - nagging down by a factor of four, or would women be able to step up their game?

Hello.Kitty Jun 6th 2011 3:23 pm

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9413612)
How about if I throw into the mix a society where the number of men is severely depleted (through war, for example), such that there is a high number of women who could not marry, and the societal situation means that it is difficult for them to work and thereby support themselves?

well, if society can't support the population balance that exists - for whatever reason - then it should be allowed to correct itself.

So, in the case of your example, yes, women should be left unwed (ohhh, woe is us, pining away) which would result in fewer small mouths to feed, so that all the remaining hunter-gatherer males can make sure they (or the resources) are not overstretched (obviously modern woman can actually go to the supermarket just as well as any man). Or, you could see the very monogamous post-war baby booms that happened in Western Europe.

In reality, women are by no means helpless and don't keel over and starve if there's no man around to provide for her.

Besides, in a proper apocalypse situation, you'd definitely want fewer mouths to feed.

Polygamy really is just an excuse for some people to have a bit of fun.

Autonomy Jun 6th 2011 4:55 pm

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 9413616)
Did you have a vivid, post-apocalyptic, polygamous, hungarian orgy style dream last night?

Hungarian? Do you have a thing for the Hungarians? Or am I missing something here?

Alexa Jun 6th 2011 5:07 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
Well, since I don't do arranged marriage, no, I would not do polygamy either.

I think, since there are a lot of arranged marriages in cultures that practice polygamy, the main issue is not "love" and "he is only mine", but "how much money do I get and how much do the other women get".

Welivehere Jun 6th 2011 5:15 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
Are you mad... I have one wife, that's enough.... Why on earth would I voluntarily inflict 3 times the workload on myself..... ;):D

Norm_uk Jun 6th 2011 6:10 pm

Re: Polygamy
 
Probably not for me but anything consenting adults do is not my business...so as a libertarian in principle I would agree with it and polyandry provided consenting adults are involved rather than nonsensical religious teachings.

N.

ExKiwilass Jun 6th 2011 6:28 pm

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9413612)
How about if I throw into the mix a society where the number of men is severely depleted (through war, for example), such that there is a high number of women who could not marry, and the societal situation means that it is difficult for them to work and thereby support themselves?

So change the society, allow women to work and suppport themselves. No big deal. Lots of societies do it.

I'm most bothered by the BS that polygamy has to happen because of war. No, it doesn't. It only has to happen because a society is set up that way i.e. for the men.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 7th 2011 4:17 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Autonomy (Post 9413980)
Hungarian? Do you have a thing for the Hungarians? Or am I missing something here?

There was something on BBC news about a German sales firm arranging loads of Hungarian hookers and a big orgy for their top boys.

WakeUp Jun 7th 2011 5:44 am

Re: Polygamy
 
Polygamy is not for me. Its a great fantasy but I doubt it would work fairly for anyone in reality.

Bringing extra partners into a marriage on a temporary basis however, if all are consenting is a different matter.

Meow Jun 7th 2011 6:31 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9413612)
How about if I throw into the mix a society where the number of men is severely depleted (through war, for example), such that there is a high number of women who could not marry, and the societal situation means that it is difficult for them to work and thereby support themselves?

Then it's time for (that) society to change and stop oppressing women, thus allowing them to be self-supporting.


If men are allowed multiple wives, then women should be allowed multiple husbands, although I don't think most of us are daft/egotistical enough to want such a thing.

weasel central Jun 7th 2011 6:35 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9413612)
How about if I throw into the mix a society where the number of men is severely depleted (through war, for example), such that there is a high number of women who could not marry, and the societal situation means that it is difficult for them to work and thereby support themselves?

Is that basically the situation that allowed a fatwah or new law to be passed condoning multiple wives?
I voted yes, if you can have multiple girlfriends its essentially the same thing ;) just more "respectable" in some peoples eyes

Hello.Kitty Jun 7th 2011 7:14 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by weasel central (Post 9415497)
Is that basically the situation that allowed a fatwah or new law to be passed condoning multiple wives?
I voted yes, if you can have multiple girlfriends its essentially the same thing ;) just more "respectable" in some peoples eyes

We're talking about at the same time here...

Meow Jun 7th 2011 7:15 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty (Post 9415591)
We're talking about at the same time here...

As if weasel could get more than one girlfriend anyway... ;)

weasel central Jun 7th 2011 7:17 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty (Post 9415591)
We're talking about at the same time here...

yeah thats what I meant, People often date/sleep etc with multiple partners right ?

weasel central Jun 7th 2011 7:18 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 9415592)
As if weasel could get more than one girlfriend anyway... ;)

Its a struggle true :(

Thydney Jun 7th 2011 7:23 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9413499)
Ok, there are loads of unwritten caveats, but assuming that we're talking about one man taking up to four wives, he's got enough money and love to share around, and it were to happen in a society that accepts it, would you or wouldn't you enter into a polygamous marriage?

I think I can predict the outcome for the fairer sex, but not sure about us blokes.

One MiL is bad enough

Hello.Kitty Jun 7th 2011 8:34 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Weasel Central (Post 9415607)
yeah thats what I meant, People often date/sleep etc with multiple partners right ?

hmmm... no?!

Well, in the context of their whole lives, then almost certainly "yes", but rarely concurrently... or rarely concurrently for long!

Ach, just running away with the idea of multiple husbands... it so wouldn't work. Imagine hubby #1 having done his duty, wifey wanting a bit more action and bed-hopping to hubby #2. rofl. Something to be said for matriarchal linage hey? You pretty much always know who your mum is. Ooohhhh, poor bruised male egos. They'd be fighting like a pack of wolves.

kittycat1 Jun 7th 2011 8:55 am

Re: Polygamy
 
.......

weasel central Jun 7th 2011 10:32 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty (Post 9415704)
hmmm... no?!

Well, in the context of their whole lives, then almost certainly "yes", but rarely concurrently... or rarely concurrently for long!

Ach, just running away with the idea of multiple husbands... it so wouldn't work. Imagine hubby #1 having done his duty, wifey wanting a bit more action and bed-hopping to hubby #2. rofl. Something to be said for matriarchal linage hey? You pretty much always know who your mum is. Ooohhhh, poor bruised male egos. They'd be fighting like a pack of wolves.

Well i am not meaning long term , but there is not a time line on polygamy but for sure in a lot of peoples lifes there is overlap or multi dating. Not to the degree of all parties living together though :D

lullabelle Jun 8th 2011 5:17 am

Re: Polygamy
 
Reminds me of the time when a boyfriend asked for a threesome. I said yes as long as I could pick number three.

He was like a pig in shit for several days until I picked... His best friend.

Suddenly he didn't like the idea. Strange.

I couldn't handle more than one husband. Can't see the point. Actually it would be dreadful. The mess! Like having extra children. No. No. Just no.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 8th 2011 5:20 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by lullabelle (Post 9418178)
Reminds me of the time when a boyfriend asked for a threesome. I said yes as long as I could pick number three.

He was like a pig in shit for several days until I picked... His best friend.

Suddenly he didn't like the idea. Strange.

I couldn't handle more than one husband. Can't see the point. Actually it would be dreadful. The mess! Like having extra children. No. No. Just no.

Surely he saw that coming?

lullabelle Jun 8th 2011 5:38 am

Re: Polygamy
 
Nope. He really, truly thought I was up for some girl on girl action. He wasn't clever enough to specify the sex - he was all wrapped up in his own special fantasy. Blinkered by his cock.

Looking back, he was an arse. We've all dated them at some point.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 8th 2011 6:04 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by lullabelle (Post 9418214)
Nope. He really, truly thought I was up for some girl on girl action. He wasn't clever enough to specify the sex - he was all wrapped up in his own special fantasy. Blinkered by his cock.

Looking back, he was an arse. We've all dated them at some point.

10 years though.

He either hid it well or you were blinkered by his cock....

lullabelle Jun 8th 2011 6:12 am

Re: Polygamy
 
Ten years?

Huh?

I dated him for four months. Late summer 1996.

Maybe you were blinkered by the word "cock?"

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 8th 2011 6:59 am

Re: Polygamy
 

Originally Posted by lullabelle (Post 9418269)
Ten years?

Huh?

I dated him for four months. Late summer 1996.

Maybe you were blinkered by the word "cock?"

Sorry. My error. Not sure where I pulled that from.

haha


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