Originally Posted by CeeBee

yes

i don't really understand islamic 'stuff' but what is the reason why a woman would not be allowed to walk with husband in tow? or vice versa.

Originally Posted by Beard Man

have you seen it your self ?

or did you come to know about it from untrusted sources

and did you know what happend at the courts and what evidences were presented ?

and have you thought that maybe it was raised internationally just for political reasons to put more pressure on KSA ???

Originally Posted by Beard Man

have you seen it your self ?

or did you come to know about it from untrusted sources

and did you know what happend at the courts and what evidences were presented ?

and have you thought that maybe it was raised internationally just for political reasons to put more pressure on KSA ???

Originally Posted by karina83

reasons for it becoming international news are insignificant.

a woman should not b punished in any way for being raped, regardless of her reputation/ dress sense or moral values.

Originally Posted by Beard Man

but some women drive people to rap them one way or another.

listen to me lady .. when a man gets into jail in US for example if he is not strong he is most likely to become a wife of a strong prisoner
!!

if this is happening to men... why do you think women will not be raped for some reasons ... weather she was directly responsible or .. the man is a criminal ...

but again (and please understand this) .. how do you know that she was raped !!!!

Originally Posted by shiva

no, were you there?

of course it was political the west doesnt really care about medievil punishment for non crimes

Originally Posted by Beard Man

i was saying how did you come to know about this ??

how do you really know that she were raped..

i totally agree that a woman should never be raped no matter what

but some women drive people to rap them one way or another.

listen to me lady .. when a man gets into jail in US for example if he is not strong he is most likely to become a wife of a strong prisoner
!!

if this is happening to men... why do you think women will not be raped for some reasons ... weather she was directly responsible or .. the man is a criminal ...

but again (and please understand this) .. how do you know that she was raped !!!!

Originally Posted by Beard Man

Yeah right

i can see how much they care about Iraqis (thousands are being killed) and Palestinians

Originally Posted by shiva

thanks for that, now i know for certain that your a idiot

Originally Posted by The Dean

Disgraceful!!!! He deserves everything that's coming to him, if you ask me......

This from Reuters..........

Amnesty urges release of Saudi facing flogging

RIYADH (Reuters) - Amnesty International has urged Saudi authorities to release a Saudi university professor who is facing flogging and imprisonment for meeting a woman to whom he is not related for coffee in the conservative Islamic kingdom.

Muhammad Ali Abu Raziza, a psychology lecturer at the university of Mecca, has been sentenced to 150 lashes and eight months in jail after the religious police caught him with a woman in a coffee shop, the rights group said in a statement. Justice ministry officials could not immediately be reached for comment.

Saudi Arabia applies an austere form of Islam which bans women from mixing with men to whom they are not related, voting and driving, and punishes men and women found guilty of illegal encounters, known as khilwa offences. The statement did not say what happened to the woman who was meeting Abu Raziza.

"Saudi Arabia should stop needlessly persecuting people like this -- we want to see a complete end to people in the kingdom being punished for 'khilwa' offences," Amnesty said.

The religious police, known as the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, have wide powers to search for alcohol, drugs and prostitution, ensure shops are closed during prayers in addition to maintaining a strict system of sexual segregation.

Criticism of the force has re-emerged after its members were involved in a series of incidents, which led to the deaths of six people in car chases.

(Writing by Souhail Karam; Editing by Giles Elgood)
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Keywords: SAUDI FLOGGING/PROFESSOR

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad

Beardman,

here is a taste of democracy..and trust me my country is far far from perfect. (well scotland is but we come under the umberella of uk)

No matter what that lady has done, who she has spoke to, or had illicet coffee's with or heaven forbid kissed..

For anyone to touch her in any shape or form against her will, is not tolerated. REGARDLESS OF WHO/WHAT/WHERE/WHEN/HOW

is it really that difficult to comprehend..

you say there is more to it..please explain to me and i am really interested, how you can justify that the rapists got a pat on the back, and the VICTIM was lashed..

I await this one....

Originally Posted by karina83

are u being serious? i would hate for u or anyone of ur mentality to be on the jury of a rape case.

no wonder so many rapes go unreported...

Originally Posted by Beard Man

hey cool down man !! and take it easy

all what i am trying to say (and i am repeating this) .. how do you know that she was really raped ???

as far as i know t ...she was not raped

so you talk based on believing that she was raped and all what i want to know is simply ... how can you be so sure !!!! that's all mate

Originally Posted by Beard Man

I respect your opinion

but you can't get in a lion cage when he is hungry .. and you don't expect him to treat you nicely