Norm_uk

You'd make an excellent theologian.

N.

Norm_uk

Me and my missus have a lot in common despite her coming from a different culture. Both atheists, with similar politics, love of history and culture etc. Also into similar food, music and art.

Marriage is far to difficult as it is without not seeing eye to eye on all the major issues.

N.

Meow

I'm sure some of you will like this...

lullabelle

My husband is the complete opposite: shy, quiet to the point of comatose, moves through life at a glacial pace, dreamy, has conservative taste in just about eveything except music - he has gay boy taste in music (Celine Dion, Elaine Page, show tunes! Can you imagine? The Phantom of the Bloody Opera!) AND He reads the Daily Fail FFS.

He doesn't even like sunny weather! God only knows how we got it together.

We are both atheists... Maybe that's the glue.

Norm_uk

Celine Dion?

By Odin's beard that would be a deal breaker for me!

N.

Bahtatboy

Sank you.

britexpat76

Non muslim men can convert for the day if you want to marry a muslim.............The one thing with my relationship is whilst her brother/mother and family accept she is dating an Infidel they all assume that as we are supposed to wait until we get married before practicing baby making they think I have the morals of an alley cat and will be getting my sex somewhere else. (Frankly I find that amusing)

Do all Muslims really think that all we do is wear short skirts, drink beer and get our legs up?

Saff_Parker

Aw, I don't But I guess it's hard for some people to ignore the media! Middle Easterners see how sex is not so taboo in Western media, and vice versa.. how we Westerners may assume all Middle Easterners want to wage an angry jihad against us all thanks to the Daily Mail. Tiz life.

Saff

Oyibopeppeh

Bogtrotters and Rangers vs Celtic aside, the vast majority of terrorist related convictions in the UK recently have involved British born, indoctrinated and brainwashed muslims.

Charity begins at home!

And for once, it's nothing to do with the Daily Mail.

Saff_Parker

Unfortunately I think many people would choose to ignore somebody is British born as long as their name sounds something like Abdulwahab.

Saff

OriginalSunshine

and that's just it. It's not the religion per se, it's indoctrination and brain washing. Until we start to adopt the Australian way of everyone becomes "Australian" rather than the American way of "Irish/Latino/whatever-American" then folks will identify themselves as "Asian/whatever-British" even if born in the UK, which I (as a demi bogtrotter) abhor. You are your nationality of choice/birth/passport. End of.

Norm_uk

Depends on the sect in that case...it's not a universally allowed concept in all of Islam.

I wouldn't convert to any religion for any length of time for any women. There are plenty of women who accept me just as I am - and plenty of women just like me (well, perhaps not as racist or hairy but that's a good thing).

I often wonder how they reconcile the fact that we do often do all the things they are not allowed to (drinking, shagging without being married, not being religious, denying god's existence etc) and yet we are so far ahead scientifically, culturally and technologically.

N.

Norm_uk

Why is that unfortunate? Being born somewhere doesn't mean much at all...look at all the expats born in the UAE who are not local and never will be.

Abdulwahab isn't a British name. Some people believe if you are part of a society you should adapt to it's ways, especially when it already has a long established native population.

N.

britexpat76

Now this is something that came up recently. I am an obvious Atheist and the only way we could be married is if I converted for a day and became Mohammed Britexpat. Though nothing changes for either of us and after I will enjoy a pint and bag of scratchings is it not a daft rule that we have to do this when the men don't?

Norm_uk

Why don't you ask her to leave Islam or convert to Christianity for a day - I bet that's not even an option is it?

Direct question I know (and I mean no offense) but there are more than principles at stake here. If you've converted you can also be prosecuted in most Muslim countries for things like drinking. You will not be able to have a license and you will also have to deal with Sharia law for things like inheritance. If you fancy your children automatically going to your nearest male relative upon your demise and only 1/8 of your net worth in the region going to her good luck to you mate.

N.