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Bahtatboy Oct 30th 2013 6:40 pm

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by saudiflares (Post 10969160)
Reminds me...must watch the opening bit of Reservoir Dogs again

:thumbup:

Myusernamewastaken Oct 30th 2013 9:45 pm

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 
I assume you mean this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38

He does have some valid points though. I actually usually give tips but as mentioned I really don't like if you are expected to give tips even if the food/service or whatever is really bad.

redShark Oct 30th 2013 9:48 pm

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by britexpat76 (Post 10968484)
I know of someone that offered to help two particularly arrogant obnoxious Saudi's when they jumped off the plane in Heathrow. He politely offered to take their passports to his friend who would let them pass through immigration without having to queue with the plebs...........10 minutes later they were in the bin somewhere between immigration and baggage collection.


I actually came across a similar story but less evil than your friend’s. An Iraqi friend of mine once narrated it to me, it was back in the nineties after the first Gulf war. He said, he was once on a flight from Heathrow to Dubai, and next to him there sat a young British couple. The way they were talking to the air hosts who were Indians and the way they carried themselves were sheer snobbishness. He said I decided to chat them up and find out what they were made of, so I introduced myself as a Turkish expat working in Dubai. He said I then started talking about how terrible life in the Middle East is and all the rest of it. Soon enough they opened up and started complaining about the awfulness of the locals, etc. I was really annoyed he said. An hour before arriving the woman wanted to go to the toilet so she excused me to let her pass through as I was sitting on the aisle seat. When she left I looked at her partner and saw him looking away through the windows so I decided to be evil, I had a cup full of orange juice in my hand, I simply poured it all on her seat. She came back and sank straight into her seat. As soon as she started feeling her butt and realizing something was not right I turned my face away and kept fighting off a giggle.

Boomhauer Oct 30th 2013 10:02 pm

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 10969704)
I actually came across a similar story but less evil than your friend’s. An Iraqi friend of mine once narrated it to me, it was back in the nineties after the first Gulf war. He said, he was once on a flight from Heathrow to Dubai, and next to him there sat a young British couple. The way they were talking to the air hosts who were Indians and the way they carried themselves were sheer snobbishness. He said I decided to chat them up and find out what they were made of, so I introduced myself as a Turkish expat working in Dubai. He said I then started talking about how terrible life in the Middle East is and all the rest of it. Soon enough they opened up and started complaining about the awfulness of the locals, etc. I was really annoyed he said. An hour before arriving the woman wanted to go to the toilet so she excused me to let her pass through as I was sitting on the aisle seat. When she left I looked at her partner and saw him looking away through the windows so I decided to be evil, I had a cup full of orange juice in my hand, I simply poured it all on her seat. She came back and sank straight into her seat. As soon as she started feeling her butt and realizing something was not right I turned my face away and kept fighting off a giggle.

Why would an Iraqi be miffed when someone doesn't like Emiratis; wouldn't the Iraqi high five them:confused:

OleJanx Oct 30th 2013 10:09 pm

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 10969704)
I actually came across a similar story but less evil than your friend’s. An Iraqi friend of mine once narrated it to me, it was back in the nineties after the first Gulf war. He said, he was once on a flight from Heathrow to Dubai, and next to him there sat a young British couple. The way they were talking to the air hosts who were Indians and the way they carried themselves were sheer snobbishness. He said I decided to chat them up and find out what they were made of, so I introduced myself as a Turkish expat working in Dubai. He said I then started talking about how terrible life in the Middle East is and all the rest of it. Soon enough they opened up and started complaining about the awfulness of the locals, etc. I was really annoyed he said. An hour before arriving the woman wanted to go to the toilet so she excused me to let her pass through as I was sitting on the aisle seat. When she left I looked at her partner and saw him looking away through the windows so I decided to be evil, I had a cup full of orange juice in my hand, I simply poured it all on her seat. She came back and sank straight into her seat. As soon as she started feeling her butt and realizing something was not right I turned my face away and kept fighting off a giggle.

That, habibi, is why you are viewed as a small minded bigot. Stupid and vindictive seems to be all you can recite.

OleJanx Oct 30th 2013 10:11 pm

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 10969724)
Why would an Iraqi be miffed when someone doesn't like Emiratis; wouldn't the Iraqi high five them:confused:

Why would an Iraqi take offence at nobody wishing to have anything to do with him? The second of August 1990 obviously has bugger all to do with it....

sonlymewalter Oct 31st 2013 12:38 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 10969704)
I actually came across a similar story but less evil than your friend’s. An Iraqi friend of mine once narrated it to me, it was back in the nineties after the first Gulf war. He said, he was once on a flight from Heathrow to Dubai, and next to him there sat a young British couple. The way they were talking to the air hosts who were Indians and the way they carried themselves were sheer snobbishness. He said I decided to chat them up and find out what they were made of, so I introduced myself as a Turkish expat working in Dubai. He said I then started talking about how terrible life in the Middle East is and all the rest of it. Soon enough they opened up and started complaining about the awfulness of the locals, etc. I was really annoyed he said. An hour before arriving the woman wanted to go to the toilet so she excused me to let her pass through as I was sitting on the aisle seat. When she left I looked at her partner and saw him looking away through the windows so I decided to be evil, I had a cup full of orange juice in my hand, I simply poured it all on her seat. She came back and sank straight into her seat. As soon as she started feeling her butt and realizing something was not right I turned my face away and kept fighting off a giggle.

You seem to be missing the point.

Most people would hate these people's behaviour as much as the bastards who mistreat people in Dubai.

This thread has nothing to do with skin colour or race - it has everything to do with treating someone with respect, regardless as to their race or colour.

sonlymewalter Oct 31st 2013 12:42 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 10968289)
these videos are pretty common on youtube, who knows whether they are real or fake but i'd say they probably are real as they have little fear of prosecution or sense that what they have done may be in any way wrong.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_IgZXTkbI

http://youtube.com/watch?v=waAmT5mGn3c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ge9dyWzxDAs

I have kept replaying these videos in my mind; what kind of kid gets any kind of satisfaction for beating a garbage collector to the point the poor fella is crying and begging for mercy?:(

And who in their right mind puts nails into a person?:(

That is just pure evil, nasty, behaviour. It surely MUST be unusual as a nation on the whole surely can't think this behaviour is acceptable:confused:

Boomhauer Oct 31st 2013 2:35 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 10969945)
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And who in their right mind puts nails into a person?:(

That is just pure evil, nasty, behaviour. It surely MUST be unusual as a nation on the whole surely can't think this behaviour is acceptable:confused:

It's like war time atrocities ,torture and psychopathic dictators.
I am convinced that a very large segment of the Locals simply lack the part of the brain that can feel empathy and compassion. Just can't figure out any other reason for such sociopathic and psychopathic behaviour.

sonlymewalter Oct 31st 2013 2:55 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 10970045)
It's like war time atrocities ,torture and psychopathic dictators.
I am convinced that a very large segment of the Locals simply lack the part of the brain that can feel empathy and compassion. Just can't figure out any other reason for such sociopathic and psychopathic behaviour.

Seriously Boomhauer - it is known that Saudi practices Sharia law which in itself is extreme and it's also a given that wherever there are humans there is sociopathic and psychopathic behaviour within society, which thankfully is in the minority. However it's difficult for those of us living outside to get a grasp when watching these kinds of videos to ascertain whether it's real, staged and / or just rare instances made to look like it's the norm to behave like this in the community (which doesn't make it any better but put's it into perspective).

I've got friends who lived in Saudi some years ago and have heard horror stories but this sort of thing was never discussed hence not realising it is *the norm* :(

If this is normal behaviour - surely there is something seriously deranged about a society that behaves this way and it is seen as normal:thumbdown:

shiva Oct 31st 2013 3:50 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 
It's about belief

Non believers are not worthy and are a lower class of human

Sub cons and the above and a sub species

It goes way beyond straight racism. There is a fundamental belief that views others as non human and somewhat akin to insects or machines and this it isn't mistreatment at all.

mikewot Oct 31st 2013 4:11 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 10970099)
It's about belief

Non believers are not worthy and are a lower class of human

Sub cons and the above and a sub species

It goes way beyond straight racism. There is a fundamental belief that views others as non human and somewhat akin to insects or machines and this it isn't mistreatment at all.

Much as it pains me in my mind and in the very core of 'me' Shiva is correct. Very similar mental attitude to the nazis and the 'subhumans'. In fact the germans still have a word for it, such people are untermensch (subhuman) or fussvolk (footpeople).

NorthernLad Oct 31st 2013 4:28 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 10969704)
I actually came across a similar story but less evil than your friend’s. An Iraqi friend of mine once narrated it to me, it was back in the nineties after the first Gulf war. He said, he was once on a flight from Heathrow to Dubai, and next to him there sat a young British couple. The way they were talking to the air hosts who were Indians and the way they carried themselves were sheer snobbishness. He said I decided to chat them up and find out what they were made of, so I introduced myself as a Turkish expat working in Dubai. He said I then started talking about how terrible life in the Middle East is and all the rest of it. Soon enough they opened up and started complaining about the awfulness of the locals, etc. I was really annoyed he said. An hour before arriving the woman wanted to go to the toilet so she excused me to let her pass through as I was sitting on the aisle seat. When she left I looked at her partner and saw him looking away through the windows so I decided to be evil, I had a cup full of orange juice in my hand, I simply poured it all on her seat. She came back and sank straight into her seat. As soon as she started feeling her butt and realizing something was not right I turned my face away and kept fighting off a giggle.

And I assume he left it for the air crew/airport staff to clean up?

You really are a strange one, your 'stories' generally sound like bullshit.

flares Oct 31st 2013 4:50 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 
'Agent Orange' used by the Yanks in the 70s - result 400,000 Vietnamese killed or maimed;
'Agent Orange Juice' used by Iraqis in the 90s - result posh bird with a wet arse;

Blair was right to be concerned about Saddam's WMDs

shiva Oct 31st 2013 4:52 am

Re: Man beaten for talking to Saudi employers wife?
 
I'm going to add to the above

I had a meeting the other day with an Indian business owner. Very westernised guy, loves golf a pint and a wee dram of an evening. Spent quite a while talking about Scotland and his last golf tour there etc.
in the middle of our business discussion he goes off on a rant about how you can't trust Northern Indians with any financial responsibilities as they just don't have the brains for it. Something about their heads he said, they are missing a bit that makes them trustworthy with money.

Not a huge surprise and I've seen it more than once but the mentality of people east of the Bosporus is utterly bizarre to the western mind. Whole nations, parts of nations and races are written off due to repugnant cultural norms.

We and half the world view western civilisation as somehow superior and there are times where I find it impossible not to hold that view. Particularly when it comes to the treatment of others and human rights


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