Machete attack in London
#16
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The backlash has already started - you should see my facebook page. A large cross section of society are represented in my friends list and it goes from some using the attack as an excuse to go on a hate filled rant about muslims in general and the more moderate lets not judge the many by the action of the few type stuff. Overwelmingly telling is the fact that a "RIP Woolwich Soldier Page" sporting the Union Jack as its profile picture has nearly 1 million 'likes' already. It makes me uncomfortable.
I am so sorry for this man and his family, like i am sorry for the family's of other kids that are knifed in the streets in the name of a gang. Will the EDL, BNP, UKIP use this horrible act to their advantage? Probably yes.
This EDL pitchforks at dawn bollocks is depressing, a not insignificant number of people from all walks of life are joining in to blame muslims for shitness of their lives. So, what's next? Do we start reducing Muslim's freedom, bit by bit until we're putting them in ghettos? The erosion of human rights does not happen overnight, it is a steady trickle of change until one day we wake up and realise we are nazis
I am so sorry for this man and his family, like i am sorry for the family's of other kids that are knifed in the streets in the name of a gang. Will the EDL, BNP, UKIP use this horrible act to their advantage? Probably yes.
This EDL pitchforks at dawn bollocks is depressing, a not insignificant number of people from all walks of life are joining in to blame muslims for shitness of their lives. So, what's next? Do we start reducing Muslim's freedom, bit by bit until we're putting them in ghettos? The erosion of human rights does not happen overnight, it is a steady trickle of change until one day we wake up and realise we are nazis
#17
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Enough is enough. The UK government should learn from the Middle East. If you even consider any attack on us it's treason. You're executed. End of.
To add, I don't care where the **** you come from, even Luton or Bradford. You attack us, even think about attacking us. You die.
Crazy thing is they're pushing the populous to a level that every peace loving Muslim (the vast majority) will be hounded and beaten. Totally and utterly stupid.
A sad period in UK history is fast approaching, maybe now, maybe a year, maybe in a few decades, it's coming.
To add, I don't care where the **** you come from, even Luton or Bradford. You attack us, even think about attacking us. You die.
Crazy thing is they're pushing the populous to a level that every peace loving Muslim (the vast majority) will be hounded and beaten. Totally and utterly stupid.
A sad period in UK history is fast approaching, maybe now, maybe a year, maybe in a few decades, it's coming.
Last edited by Kix; May 23rd 2013 at 5:22 am.
#18
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Re: Machete attack in London
What the ****?
Seriously, what the ****?
I hate humans sometimes.
Seriously, what the ****?
I hate humans sometimes.
#19
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It will be interesting and worrying to see where the uk goes in the coming days.
Like many I suspect my Facebook is awash with vitriol from people whom I would not expect it from. Not a good sign at all.
The bnp, edl et al will no doubt be all over this with glee but of real concern is how many will be drawn to their cry who would normally abhor them.
Britain is not in a good place and multi culturalism is clearly failing, this event or more that are similar will see a shift in the middle ground. When the mild mannered middle classes take up the chants of the extreme right it leaves the door open for extreme politics.
Don't get me wrong some very big changes need to be made in the uk but events like this may well precipitate knee jerk reactions that do not bode well for our future
Like many I suspect my Facebook is awash with vitriol from people whom I would not expect it from. Not a good sign at all.
The bnp, edl et al will no doubt be all over this with glee but of real concern is how many will be drawn to their cry who would normally abhor them.
Britain is not in a good place and multi culturalism is clearly failing, this event or more that are similar will see a shift in the middle ground. When the mild mannered middle classes take up the chants of the extreme right it leaves the door open for extreme politics.
Don't get me wrong some very big changes need to be made in the uk but events like this may well precipitate knee jerk reactions that do not bode well for our future
#20
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To my mind this is no different (assuming it was a member of HM Forces who was attacked) than when the IRA were murdering members of HM Forces in the UK and Germany & Holland. The only difference being the weapon used, an axe instead of guns & bombs.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/02/wo...therlands.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Sp...tephen_Melrose
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...iers-2009.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporals_killings
And on and on and on goes the list.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/02/wo...therlands.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Sp...tephen_Melrose
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...iers-2009.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporals_killings
And on and on and on goes the list.
One group fights for their own land and the other fights to restore an Empire that annexed a third of the Christian world three centuries before the first crusade and a millenia before European colonialism, and totally changed the cultural landscape of the middle east and parts of Asia.
Fighting is fighting, and terrorism is simply a tactic - what they fight for is what we should be focusing on. The IRA have for the most part stopped and will talk. There is no talking to people who want to quite literally build a global empire based on ideology and faith.
What worries me is how many people refuse to accept these basic facts. Islamic terrorism won't stop or go away if we pull soldiers out from other countries.
N.
#21
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But whilst the IRA was fighting for an Irish Republic, Islamic fundamentalists are fighting for the removal of non-Muslim forces from Muslim states and the restoration of the Caliphate or Islamic Empire.
One group fights for their own land and the other fights to restore an Empire that annexed a third of the Christian world three centuries before the first crusade and a millenia before European colonialism, and totally changed the cultural landscape of the middle east and parts of Asia.
Fighting is fighting, and terrorism is simply a tactic - what they fight for is what we should be focusing on. The IRA have for the most part stopped and will talk. There is no talking to people who want to quite literally build a global empire based on ideology and faith.
What worries me is how many people refuse to accept these basic facts. Islamic terrorism won't stop or go away if we pull soldiers out from other countries.
N.
One group fights for their own land and the other fights to restore an Empire that annexed a third of the Christian world three centuries before the first crusade and a millenia before European colonialism, and totally changed the cultural landscape of the middle east and parts of Asia.
Fighting is fighting, and terrorism is simply a tactic - what they fight for is what we should be focusing on. The IRA have for the most part stopped and will talk. There is no talking to people who want to quite literally build a global empire based on ideology and faith.
What worries me is how many people refuse to accept these basic facts. Islamic terrorism won't stop or go away if we pull soldiers out from other countries.
N.
#22
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So to do that we need to leave Europe and get the Human Rights bill removed from our statute book - and all other brussels rules like the latest one that restaurants must only use fresh unopened bottles of olive oil and balsamic on the tables. Madness.
#23
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Any radicals (not just Muslims) cannot be reasoned with.
#24
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Stricter punishment. It's treason (if they're a UK citizen), as such they must be incarcerated in solitary for life, no parole, no chance of parole.
So to do that we need to leave Europe and get the Human Rights bill removed from our statute book - and all other brussels rules like the latest one that restaurants must only use fresh unopened bottles of olive oil and balsamic on the tables. Madness.
So to do that we need to leave Europe and get the Human Rights bill removed from our statute book - and all other brussels rules like the latest one that restaurants must only use fresh unopened bottles of olive oil and balsamic on the tables. Madness.
#25
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Stricter punishment. It's treason (if they're a UK citizen), as such they must be incarcerated in solitary for life, no parole, no chance of parole.
So to do that we need to leave Europe and get the Human Rights bill removed from our statute book - and all other brussels rules like the latest one that restaurants must only use fresh unopened bottles of olive oil and balsamic on the tables. Madness.
So to do that we need to leave Europe and get the Human Rights bill removed from our statute book - and all other brussels rules like the latest one that restaurants must only use fresh unopened bottles of olive oil and balsamic on the tables. Madness.
#26
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It's about time the UK grew some balls if you ask me.
#28
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Wow such a shocking terrible crime. But lets be clear that at the moment it is only a "crime" until proved otherwise
Everyone jumped on this band wagon saying its a terrorist attack. It may be a random act by a couple of terrorists but this wasn't to say it was planned and thought out with that intention. Politics and media are now endangering the lives of innocent people in our community by stating like this. I seen the home secretary on tv earlier saying "this act will not go unpunished" as though we will invade again!!! Has anyone thought that this could be just a random act by a couple of drugged up madmen? This was not an attack on Britain this was a murder. People need to realise this before we start jumping to conclusions
Everyone jumped on this band wagon saying its a terrorist attack. It may be a random act by a couple of terrorists but this wasn't to say it was planned and thought out with that intention. Politics and media are now endangering the lives of innocent people in our community by stating like this. I seen the home secretary on tv earlier saying "this act will not go unpunished" as though we will invade again!!! Has anyone thought that this could be just a random act by a couple of drugged up madmen? This was not an attack on Britain this was a murder. People need to realise this before we start jumping to conclusions
#29
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Wow such a shocking terrible crime. But lets be clear that at the moment it is only a "crime" until proved otherwise
Everyone jumped on this band wagon saying its a terrorist attack. It may be a random act by a couple of terrorists but this wasn't to say it was planned and thought out with that intention. Politics and media are now endangering the lives of innocent people in our community by stating like this. I seen the home secretary on tv earlier saying "this act will not go unpunished" as though we will invade again!!! Has anyone thought that this could be just a random act by a couple of drugged up madmen? This was not an attack on Britain this was a murder. People need to realise this before we start jumping to conclusions
Everyone jumped on this band wagon saying its a terrorist attack. It may be a random act by a couple of terrorists but this wasn't to say it was planned and thought out with that intention. Politics and media are now endangering the lives of innocent people in our community by stating like this. I seen the home secretary on tv earlier saying "this act will not go unpunished" as though we will invade again!!! Has anyone thought that this could be just a random act by a couple of drugged up madmen? This was not an attack on Britain this was a murder. People need to realise this before we start jumping to conclusions
I was amazed to hear on the radio today 'this is an attack on great Britain'
#30
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Its the same as the IRA mentioned above, soon after any bombing or whatever every Irish person was complicit in trying to terrorise Britain.