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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900346)
Cos, I bush really easily !:o
MM, xx |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900346)
Cos, I bush really easily !:o
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900339)
Exactly my point.....they are bloody everywhere, and 99.9% per cent of thm have never been within 100 miles of Old Trafford......They just support a brand because they have been brainwashed by global marketing !!
So I have never been to Rio,can I not love Pele??? Sport? yes caught up in branding.....The Club has to meet the demands of the fans;Have you ever heard of Freuchie Cricket Club? Tell me where smaller clubs could 'up' their ground spec to the conditions health and safety imposed on them after Ibrox;after Hillborough? Not every ground has Harrods in the backyard like Craven Cottage or Delia dishing up dozens of millions and the best pies since Jeffrey Archer's Shepherds at the Canaries Club |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Madam Medusa
(Post 5900362)
do you want to rephrase that...? ;)
MM, xx |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900529)
How did you know I wasnt intentionally leaving an "L" out and just bragging??? :rofl:
MM, xx |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Madam Medusa
(Post 5900543)
but that's what i thought you were doing...
MM, xx nail varnish GOOD NITE |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5900435)
Its not a 'brand' its friggin 'Roy of the Rovers'......Can you get your head out of cutting a deal (what do you do in Doobye? say 'sell timeshare' and I am so not speaking to you) and think sport...............
So I have never been to Rio,can I not love Pele??? Sport? yes caught up in branding.....The Club has to meet the demands of the fans;Have you ever heard of Freuchie Cricket Club? Tell me where smaller clubs could 'up' their ground spec to the conditions health and safety imposed on them after Ibrox;after Hillborough? Not every ground has Harrods in the backyard like Craven Cottage or Delia dishing up dozens of millions and the best pies since Jeffrey Archer's Shepherds at the Canaries Club No, not every club has millions, but you know what, I have more respect for the 1,304 fellas who go and watch Macclesfield or Wrexham or whoever week in week out come rain or shine, than I do for the millions of Man U supporters who support them in the most part because they have been sold a brand, and are glory hunting ! Same goes with Chelsea, they always were one of the small London clubs, both in stadium and support, you never ever used to see a kid wearing a Chelsea shirt when I was at school in London. An Arsenal, Tottenham, West Ham shirt, yes, but never Chelsea, and I mean never. You used to go to Stamford Bridge, which was a right kak hole, no grass on the pitch with one stand, and open the other sides, and hooligans for support, and who's team were 99 per cent of the time dire, and who spent most of their time in the old 2nd division....Suddenly a day or two before going bankrupt and out of business for good (which would have been brilliant) a billionaire Russian comes along, saves them , and starts buying expensive players, and nabs the the marketing guy from Man Utd (because they had been succesful in selling themselves) to market Chelsea globally....and hey ho, before you know it, there are little kids in India or Dubai or China wearing Chelsea shirts, and so it all starts again..... |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Madam Medusa
(Post 5900543)
but that's what i thought you were doing...
MM, xx |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900600)
There's a big difference.....So you have never been to Rio ok, but do you support Pele, do you wear his shirts, do you walk around with a Pele shirt with his name on the back, do you watch TV cheering on a team from another country, who you have never seen in the flesh.....I guess not ??? It would be like me suddenly cheering on and wearing shirts of the NY Giants, just because they had advertised and marketed themselves to such an extent that I was convinced I supported them, its nonsense !
No, not every club has millions, but you know what, I have more respect for the 1,304 fellas who go and watch Macclesfield or Wrexham or whoever week in week out come rain or shine, than I do for the millions of Man U supporters who support them in the most part because they have been sold a brand, and are glory hunting ! Same goes with Chelsea, they always were one of the small London clubs, both in stadium and support, you never ever used to see a kid wearing a Chelsea shirt when I was at school in London. An Arsenal, Tottenham, West Ham shirt, yes, but never Chelsea, and I mean never. You used to go to Stamford Bridge, which was a right kak hole, no grass on the pitch with one stand, and open the other sides, and hooligans for support, and who's team were 99 per cent of the time dire, and who spent most of their time in the old 2nd division....Suddenly a day or two before going bankrupt and out of business for good (which would have been brilliant) a billionaire Russian comes along, saves them , and starts buying expensive players, and nabs the the marketing guy from Man Utd (because they had been succesful in selling themselves) to market Chelsea globally....and hey ho, before you know it, there are little kids in India or Dubai or China wearing Chelsea shirts, and so it all starts again..... I proudly wore my shirt, my big bro took me and 3 very younger siblings to all the home games ah those were the days:) |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900607)
Bragging or leaving the "L" out ?
MM, xx |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900600)
There's a big difference.....So you have never been to Rio ok, but do you support Pele, do you wear his shirts, do you walk around with a Pele shirt with his name on the back, do you watch TV cheering on a team from another country, who you have never seen in the flesh.....I guess not ??? It would be like me suddenly cheering on and wearing shirts of the NY Giants, just because they had advertised and marketed themselves to such an extent that I was convinced I supported them, its nonsense !
No, not every club has millions, but you know what, I have more respect for the 1,304 fellas who go and watch Macclesfield or Wrexham or whoever week in week out come rain or shine, than I do for the millions of Man U supporters who support them in the most part because they have been sold a brand, and are glory hunting ! Same goes with Chelsea, they always were one of the small London clubs, both in stadium and support, you never ever used to see a kid wearing a Chelsea shirt when I was at school in London. An Arsenal, Tottenham, West Ham shirt, yes, but never Chelsea, and I mean never. You used to go to Stamford Bridge, which was a right kak hole, no grass on the pitch with one stand, and open the other sides, and hooligans for support, and who's team were 99 per cent of the time dire, and who spent most of their time in the old 2nd division....Suddenly a day or two before going bankrupt and out of business for good (which would have been brilliant) a billionaire Russian comes along, saves them , and starts buying expensive players, and nabs the the marketing guy from Man Utd (because they had been succesful in selling themselves) to market Chelsea globally....and hey ho, before you know it, there are little kids in India or Dubai or China wearing Chelsea shirts, and so it all starts again..... |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5900647)
So how do we make the 'big' difference smaller-in the name of sport?
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900667)
You've lost me ?:confused:
Somewhere out there? SYZ road.................go back to the Q handsome one. |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Do you honestly think a sportsman can stand 'naked'-sorry only word I can think of -meaning offering nothing but 'talent' and survive one league;tourney;circuit without being approached/tarnished by sponsors?
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5900829)
Do you honestly think a sportsman can stand 'naked'-sorry only word I can think of -meaning offering nothing but 'talent' and survive one league;tourney;circuit without being approached/tarnished by sponsors?
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900873)
No, these days you would not survive as a sportsman or a team without sponsors, and I dont disagree with it, its a "both win" situation. It gives the sportsman or team much needed money and the sponsor publicity........But with Man U, and I am sure there must be other clubds trying it, wha possible reason is for them to have a "soccr school" for example in Dubai ? They will tell you its to promote the sport in Dubai or wherever, its good for the young kids, or underprivellged blah blah blah....its rubbish !. The real reason is, like they have done in China and the Far East when they go on tour there to play exhibition games, the sole aim is to promote their name as far and as wide as possible, sell shirts, and make money out of merchadising, its nothing to do with promoting soccer, helping the needy etc etc
:sneaky: Please........were you trialled somewhere and broke a leg? Now I'm suspicious of you.......you are calling it soccer! Do you think -ok lets go for the brand leaders- Do you think David Beckham would rather have his hair gelled than execute an almost perfect right(?) kick? Do you think Thierry would rather tear up the pitch than drive a pathetic vava voom renault? Do you think Steph Gerarrd would rather slap Alex than be married to her? Oh so there's Wayne....product of possibly drunks-foetil alcohol syndrome could explain the ears-but the boy knows his way around a ball. Look at their leader Alex-small protestant town-tradesman;dour; but sets a team on fire! The passion and the glory still remains at the feet of those who score the goals............... |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5900939)
Please........were you trialled somewhere and broke a leg?
Now I'm suspicious of you.......you are calling it soccer! Do you think -ok lets go for the brand leaders- Do you think David Beckham would rather have his hair gelled than execute an almost perfect right(?) kick? Do you think Thierry would rather tear up the pitch than drive a pathetic vava voom renault? Do you think Steph Gerarrd would rather slap Alex than be married to her? Oh so there's Wayne....product of possibly drunks-foetil alcohol syndrome could explain the ears-but the boy knows his way around a ball. Look at their leader Alex-small protestant town-tradesman;dour; but sets a team on fire! The passion and the glory still remains at the feet of those who score the goals............... |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900978)
I called it Soccer, in reference to 'Soccer school'.....All good players for sure.............and David Beckam wasnt bought by Real Madrid primarily to sell shirts ????? No, of course not.....what a terrible thing to suggest !.............he hadnt been there more than a fornight and they were straight off to The Far East !!!
What are you still moaning about ? small people don't champion This debate-please don't stop- really doesn't belong on the same page as a memorial to young talented guys killed when they still had their lives to live. Right Midnight Moerator stick this up............cue new thread jingle jangleman-a real test of your knowledge |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Well hush ma mouth..........how do I invent a new thread?
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5900109)
No, not at all, but its a well known fact / standing joke that most of the Man U fans in England live "South of Surrey"..........and please dont get me started on Chelsea !.......:frown:
stop being a glory hunter and get down to the Daggers :sneaky: |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5900375)
Ah well, suppose I'm another one queueing for Ins..............loving your mind!
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901092)
how come you support West Ham! arent you an essex boy? and my geography may not be perfect (as the quiz proves every week) but I do not believe that the Hammers are located in Essex!
stop being a glory hunter and get down to the Daggers :sneaky: Fine for you to mince in now...while me a defenceless bird-cos MM can't last the pace is giving it the old D'Artagnan(cute)...... and your very alanced arguement is what? Bring me back to old SYB............ |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901092)
how come you support West Ham! arent you an essex boy? and my geography may not be perfect (as the quiz proves every week) but I do not believe that the Hammers are located in Essex!
stop being a glory hunter and get down to the Daggers :sneaky: |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5901170)
From home to Upton Park is about 11 miles......and as an existing season ticket holder, and one of 18 years.....think I can safely say that I follow them !:thumbsup:
as for me my father supported Man united and went to the 68 final. His father and all his brothers supported United. Was never any question of supporting anyone else even though Liverpool dominated football during my formative years! |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901190)
So you ain't from close to Upton Park. How many smaller clubs are closer than 11 miles! You Glory hunter!! :p
as for me my father supported Man united and went to the 68 final. His father and all his brothers supported United. Was never any question of supporting anyone else even though Liverpool dominated football during my formative years! |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5901129)
Fine for you to mince in now...while me a defenceless bird-cos MM can't last the pace is giving it the old D'Artagnan(cute)......
and your very alanced arguement is what? Bring me back to old SYB............ |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901190)
So you ain't from close to Upton Park. How many smaller clubs are closer than 11 miles! You Glory hunter!! :p
as for me my father supported Man united and went to the 68 final. His father and all his brothers supported United. Was never any question of supporting anyone else even though Liverpool dominated football during my formative years! ....... and as a Bedfordshire boy who actually DOES support Luton Town, who are in danger of disappearing any day now, I'm all too aware of what the 'big' clubs have that the small ones don't. |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
[QUOTE=Inselaffen;5901190]So you ain't from close to Upton Park. How many smaller clubs are closer than 11 miles! You Glory hunter!! :p
QUOTE] You have a point, cos there are about 250 over Hackney Marshes.....you're right....I must be a glory hunter !!:ohmy::ohmy: |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5901212)
My father also supports United......and it shames me to say that I was born in Sale, but thankfully moved South when I was 4 and became a "Suvvvennnorr"
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
[QUOTE=BangleMan;5901225]
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901190)
So you ain't from close to Upton Park. How many smaller clubs are closer than 11 miles! You Glory hunter!! :p
QUOTE] You have a point, cos there are about 250 over Hackney Marshes.....you're right....I must be a glory hunter !!:ohmy::ohmy: |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 5901224)
I feel sorry, support-catchment-area-wise, for Leyton Orient - if you draw a triangle connecting Arsenal's, Tottenham's and West Ham's grounds, Orient are inside it........
....... and as a Bedfordshire boy who actually DOES support Luton Town, who are in danger of disappearing any day now, I'm all too aware of what the 'big' clubs have that the small ones don't. |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901227)
that explains the penchant for shandy!
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 5901219)
was otherwise occupied! and it was certainly more pleasurable than spending a night posting on the bored ;)
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Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5901241)
They derserve to go under anyway, for all the years they had that plastic pitch, and for Mick Harford and Steve"Headband" Foster !!!
Plastic pitch? It was legal, it was a bold experiment - and it didn't work - and remember, they eventually tore it up voluntarily - BEFORE those pitches were banned. Mick Harford? A legend who should have played for England - but didn't... Steve Foster? An end leg who shouldn't have played for England - but did.... Nobody "deserves" to go under......... and certainly not when recommended by the fan of a team who included Billy Bonds and Frank Lampard (senior) in their ranks........... Lampard's IQ never knowingly rose above room temperature, to my certain knowledge. |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 5901224)
I feel sorry, support-catchment-area-wise, for Leyton Orient - if you draw a triangle connecting Arsenal's, Tottenham's and West Ham's grounds, Orient are inside it........
....... and as a Bedfordshire boy who actually DOES support Luton Town, who are in danger of disappearing any day now, I'm all too aware of what the 'big' clubs have that the small ones don't. Can't you be a man/trani-we don't care-and judge the best answer to your Q |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5901212)
My father also supports United......and it shames me to say that I was born in Sale, but thankfully moved South when I was 4 and became a "Suvvvennnorr"
oh-crux of the matter-it shames me to say I was born in Sale WHY? |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 5901283)
Look out - the irrational hatred of Luton by West Ham fans.
Plastic pitch? It was legal, it was a bold experiment - and it didn't work - and remember, they eventually tore it up voluntarily - BEFORE those pitches were banned. Mick Harford? A legend who should have played for England - but didn't... Steve Foster? An end leg who shouldn't have played for England - but did.... Nobody "deserves" to go under......... and certainly not when recommended by the fan of a team who included Billy Bonds and Frank Lampard (senior) in their ranks........... Lampard's IQ never knowingly rose above room temperature, to my certain knowledge. Mick Harford......if Frank Lampard (Snr) was a little dense, then god knows what that made Mick Harford.....talenless thug on the pitch, and thick as the brown stuff off it And Billy Bonds.....still the best player never to play for England.....A legend !! |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 5901322)
oh-crux of the matter-it shames me to say I was born in Sale
WHY? |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Billy Bonds.....still the best player never to play for England
Oh please.......... If this is going to be an intelligent debate, we are going to need a substitute for BangleMan.......... Good night........ |
Re: Lest we forget - 6 February 1958
Originally Posted by BangleMan
(Post 5901334)
Twas much too close to Man Utd......buy hey ho, was closer than the majority of their fand will ever get !:rofl:
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