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Old Jan 26th 2014, 7:20 am
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on a side note, I discovered last night that my cousin is starting chemotherapy for his 5 year old DOG. Absolute nuts. I wonder what his views on euthanasia are!
It will probably look quite funny if it looses all its hair.
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Old Jan 26th 2014, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse View Post
on a side note, I discovered last night that my cousin is starting chemotherapy for his 5 year old DOG. Absolute nuts. I wonder what his views on euthanasia are!
Since he is clearly willing to spend time effort money and emotions on a dog id suspect he may be quite enlightened in his views on it in the case of non treatable illnesses
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I agree with Meow, we don't let our animals suffer in pain so why should we let humans. I remember watching a documentary about that place in Switzerland, one man who was old and suffering with a terminal illness decided to go down that route, it was terrible to watch but he had his entire family with him, it was rather emotional. The recent story line on Coronation Street has stirred up a lot of talk as well, Hayley decided to end her life prematurely before the cancer did it for her. It may just be soap world but a lot of research goes into these story lines especially when they can affect so many people.
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I agree with Meow, we don't let our animals suffer in pain so why should we let humans. I remember watching a documentary about that place in Switzerland, one man who was old and suffering with a terminal illness decided to go down that route, it was terrible to watch but he had his entire family with him, it was rather emotional. The recent story line on Coronation Street has stirred up a lot of talk as well, Hayley decided to end her life prematurely before the cancer did it for her. It may just be soap world but a lot of research goes into these story lines especially when they can affect so many people.
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Old Jan 26th 2014, 4:42 pm
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Ah, but it's probably more real and emotionally engaging to a larger number of people than a few lines of op-ed or a newsreel...

My suspicion is that whilst the predicted increase in life-expectancy (in European countries at least) shall probably come to pass, the increase in quality of those nether-years shall not keep pace.

If secular society accepts that choosing to end one's life is not a sin against some creator, then surely it must be acceptable for a person of sound mind to make that choice?
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Ah, but it's probably more real and emotionally engaging to a larger number of people than a few lines of op-ed or a newsreel...

My suspicion is that whilst the predicted increase in life-expectancy (in European countries at least) shall probably come to pass, the increase in quality of those nether-years shall not keep pace.

If secular society accepts that choosing to end one's life is not a sin against some creator, then surely it must be acceptable for a person of sound mind to make that choice?
Hello u,

I agree,anyone possessed of compos mentis should have freedom of choice.

In all probability,most scenarios would involve cancer or other terminal illness
wherein the individual:
chooses to undergo treatment in the hope of prolonging life

OR

chooses not to - based on fear or futility,perhaps even apathy having
lived a long and fulfilled life.


It seems perfectly rational to me that a further choice should be available.

'Tick box if you've had enough and it's Goodnight Vienna from you'


We can be a selfish lot sometimes IMHO.Subsequent to initial grieving, some tend to mourn
the loss of society as a material loss so to speak 'don't leave me', 'can't go on without you '-
Concerned with how their life will change rather than respect the wishes of the dying or
fully address their pain - often becoming 'aggrieved' at their departure.
No offence intended,just my thoughts.

Those who wish to,should be allowed to 'go softly into that good night'.
Just saying like....

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A friend of a friend here just succumbed to CJD.

The account I was given would make it difficult to argue against euthanasia.
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Originally Posted by Eva View Post
Hello u,

I agree,anyone possessed of compos mentis should have freedom of choice.

In all probability,most scenarios would involve cancer or other terminal illness
wherein the individual:
chooses to undergo treatment in the hope of prolonging life

OR

chooses not to - based on fear or futility,perhaps even apathy having
lived a long and fulfilled life.


It seems perfectly rational to me that a further choice should be available.

'Tick box if you've had enough and it's Goodnight Vienna from you'


We can be a selfish lot sometimes IMHO.Subsequent to initial grieving, some tend to mourn
the loss of society as a material loss so to speak 'don't leave me', 'can't go on without you '-
Concerned with how their life will change rather than respect the wishes of the dying or
fully address their pain - often becoming 'aggrieved' at their departure.
No offence intended,just my thoughts.

Those who wish to,should be allowed to 'go softly into that good night'.
Just saying like....
Hello you ewe! Been missing ya!

In my imagination, it is simply a matter of societal inertia. By which I mean, were we all born with virgin minds and without the residual influence of approx 100 years of parent tapes (and our parent's parent tapes) - then as a whole we would be less hung-up upon forming social mores on the sole evidence of our life experience.

I'm not a fan of the Socratic notion of eternally true notions of good and evil (it was the one low point of that 12 yrs a slave movie when Brad Pitt came on as the enlightened vision of playing the White Man).

It seems that for our time and state of technology, youthinasia oughtta be a choice.... May not be so is our sons and daughters time. That's OK. What's most ethical is as slippery and ephemeral as life itself....
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