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Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10111722)
- PC Was not able to choose his job. His point is valid.
- My Mum loves homeopathy, what you or I think about it is irrelevant, the NHS have enough idiots in management to make their own decisions. - You may not like QT's architecture, but I can guarantee that a lot of people DO. Irrelevant. - PC owns organic food? Nobody else thinks that is a good idea? Can you not choose to buy organic food or not? Irrelevant. - Chelsea Barracks - he said he didn't like what the Candy's had designed. Opinion. - Your last point is again, just your opinion. His personal life, whilst remaining in the public eye, really has very little to do with anyone else but himself and his family / friends. I agree that the Queen provides us with a near-perfect monarch, fully aware of the role she fulfills. PC is, I think, cut from the same cloth, but only time will tell. I hope the Queen has many more years. As a hereditary constitutional monarch it is simply wrong for him to be taking positions on controversial matters and applying pressure to government (letters to ministers etc.). In the Chelsea case he wrote a letter to the Al Thanis (the ultimate owners of the site) which meant by protocol (of reciprocal sycophancy of feudal monarchies - the same thing that has enabled that obviously fabricated Bastakiya myth to take hold) they had to intervene in his favour. This was completely underhanded and unethical behaviour from any public figure, much less the unelected HoS in waiting. Worse yet is that it is an outrageous conflict of interest for him to use his inherited public platform to promote completely unscientific (and potentially dangerous) claims that directly support his own business interests. MPs and peers have to declare a register of interests and recuse themselves from matters that affect their personal business. The head of state - especially an unelected one - should be held to an even higher standard. As it is, as heir he is allowed to ride roughshod and unchallenged over all standard rules of ethics in public life. Forcing the NHS to spend large amounts of time and money evaluating homeopathy and other "alternative therapies" which have already been thoroughly discredited is a criminal waste of very scarce taxpayer resources. That money could be funding the latest cancer treatments or better care for dementia patients. That it is happening all because of the ignorant vanity of one of Britain's richest men, who is also the beneficiary of the public purse, should have people reacting in the time-honoured Brisitsh fashion: with a riot! Whether or not people like Quinlan Terry's architecture is not the point; the point is that the heir to the throne has no place promoting him above others whose work has been subject to the public planning process. The queen makes it all look too easy. It isn't and this nicompoop is clearly not up to the job. And there is no constitutional way to get rid of him..... |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope
(Post 10111997)
All of these things would be fine if he were a private citizen. Alas he is not.
As a hereditary constitutional monarch it is simply wrong for him to be taking positions on controversial matters and applying pressure to government (letters to ministers etc.). In the Chelsea case he wrote a letter to the Al Thanis (the ultimate owners of the site) which meant by protocol (of reciprocal sycophancy of feudal monarchies - the same thing that has enabled that obviously fabricated Bastakiya myth to take hold) they had to intervene in his favour. This was completely underhanded and unethical behaviour from any public figure, much less the unelected HoS in waiting. Worse yet is that it is an outrageous conflict of interest for him to use his inherited public platform to promote completely unscientific (and potentially dangerous) claims that directly support his own business interests. MPs and peers have to declare a register of interests and recuse themselves from matters that affect their personal business. The head of state - especially an unelected one - should be held to an even higher standard. As it is, as heir he is allowed to ride roughshod and unchallenged over all standard rules of ethics in public life. Forcing the NHS to spend large amounts of time and money evaluating homeopathy and other "alternative therapies" which have already been thoroughly discredited is a criminal waste of very scarce taxpayer resources. That money could be funding the latest cancer treatments or better care for dementia patients. That it is happening all because of the ignorant vanity of one of Britain's richest men, who is also the beneficiary of the public purse, should have people reacting in the time-honoured Brisitsh fashion: with a riot! Whether or not people like Quinlan Terry's architecture is not the point; the point is that the heir to the throne has no place promoting him above others whose work has been subject to the public planning process. The queen makes it all look too easy. It isn't and this nicompoop is clearly not up to the job. And there is no constitutional way to get rid of him..... What's your opinion on something like the Prince's Trust? |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10112082)
All of the above is basically your opinion on things that he has done / not done.
What's your opinion on something like the Prince's Trust? the monarchy has no political opinion, policy opinion or any other opinion or position officially |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10112086)
opinion is irrelevant its a matter of protocol, something the queen understands very well which he singularly fails to.
the monarchy has no political opinion, policy opinion or any other opinion or position officially |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10112102)
I think the bloke is allowed an opinion. I fail to see whether you or I agree with it has any real relevance when he has zero power to make a new law / rule / whatever.
the queen in 60 years has yet to give an interview or say anything publicly that wasn't fairly banal, the last time she did it was an annus horribilus that she lived to regret |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 10110167)
Ah yes........... the vote on becoming independent from England (let's be honest)....... while remaining in the European Union........ :banghead::banghead:
By the way, if my country (the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) is going to be broken up, shouldn't everyone get a vote? It's just as important to residents in Gloucester as those in Glasgow.......... A real democratic move would be to put it to vote throughout the entire Union...and anyone with a brain would know Scotland would suffer in the EU, just like Ireland have. N. |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10112115)
that's the problem he exerts power and influence hence the protocol for the monarchy not having opinions.
the queen in 60 years has yet to give an interview or say anything publicly that wasn't fairly banal, the last time she did it was an annus horribilus that she lived to regret |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10112130)
I understand your point. Do you think he will be a poor King?
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Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope
All of these things would be fine if he were a private citizen. Alas he is not. As a hereditary constitutional monarch it is simply wrong for him to be taking positions on controversial matters and applying pressure to government (letters to ministers etc.). In the Chelsea case he wrote a letter to the Al Thanis (the ultimate owners of the site) which meant by protocol (of reciprocal sycophancy of feudal monarchies - the same thing that has enabled that obviously fabricated Bastakiya myth to take hold) they had to intervene in his favour. This was NOT fabricated. I saw the Petition, know the person who wrote it and we watched while it was delivered into the British Embassy. We also were kept informed of its progress throughout the weekend. It was a very big deal at the time, and luckily worked. |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Norm_uk
(Post 10112122)
...and anyone with a brain would know Scotland would suffer in the EU, just like Ireland have.
N. |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope
(Post 10112224)
Exactly how has Ireland suffered due to the EU? Evidently the Irish voters who have just ratified the fiscal stability treaty don't feel the same way.
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Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by BinCat
(Post 10112207)
Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope
All of these things would be fine if he were a private citizen. Alas he is not. As a hereditary constitutional monarch it is simply wrong for him to be taking positions on controversial matters and applying pressure to government (letters to ministers etc.). In the Chelsea case he wrote a letter to the Al Thanis (the ultimate owners of the site) which meant by protocol (of reciprocal sycophancy of feudal monarchies - the same thing that has enabled that obviously fabricated Bastakiya myth to take hold) they had to intervene in his favour. This was NOT fabricated. I saw the Petition, know the person who wrote it and we watched while it was delivered into the British Embassy. We also were kept informed of its progress throughout the weekend. It was a very big deal at the time, and luckily worked. However, if Charles' intervention helped then good for him. Similarly the Price's Trust is a good thing. But neither of these would seem to justify his existence being pretty much the minimum somebody in his position could do. His first wife, as dubious as her behaviour was in many respects, certainly did a lot more in less time to help more people than he has ever done. |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Norm_uk
(Post 10112122)
Scotland would suffer in the EU, just like Ireland have.
N. |
Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by weasel decentral
(Post 10112289)
Describe the suffering Ireland have had with the EU? This is a new and novel concept to most Irish people
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Re: The Jubilee was a scam
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10112300)
3-1 last night.
However since we have gone down this route, I will pay more attention to tonight's game, there maybe more suffering ahead |
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