The House of Saud
Oct 30th 2015 | 2:34 am
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I'd take the maid, decent free medical, plenty of booze and whores across the causeway in Bahrain and a big house any day over a corpy house in Yorkshire
Plus the sun shines in Saudi
What's not to like other than Sheffield doris-es having a certain rough charm that I still have fond memories of
Plus the sun shines in Saudi
What's not to like other than Sheffield doris-es having a certain rough charm that I still have fond memories of
Oct 30th 2015 | 2:35 am
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Oct 30th 2015 | 2:42 am
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Oct 30th 2015 | 5:32 am
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I would have thought you were familiar with its MO by now? I will answer though.
Hhhhmmm, jealousy you think? I grew up in a council estate and shared a room with my two younger brothers. My parents worked though, they would rather have died than take any form of state benefits.
It was very obvious to me at a young age that if I wanted to better myself I had to do something more than the rest of the family and others around where I lived. No one in my family had been to university and the chances of me doing so were zero. So when I decided school had taught me all it could I left and joined the forces. I learnt a profession and when I left the services I carried on in civilian life. Then the Middle East was willing to pay me handsomely for my skills because they did not have them out here. So I came here and am putting those skills to good use for a lot more money than I would receive in Europe. I would venture to suggest that most, if not all of the UK posters on here have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Compare and contrast lets say an average citizen of KSA (male obviously because females are only breeding stock). The family have everything, maids to look after every little thing, no one has to raise a finger. No need to worry about educating themselves at school, who cares if they have no skills because they have so much money they can bring in infidels to do the real work. The state provides everything they want in the way of medicine etc. and free money for a house blah blah blah.
Now which of us two is the more useful person? Which of us contributes to society instead of being a net drain on resources, like oxygen?
Hhhhmmm, jealousy you think? I grew up in a council estate and shared a room with my two younger brothers. My parents worked though, they would rather have died than take any form of state benefits.
It was very obvious to me at a young age that if I wanted to better myself I had to do something more than the rest of the family and others around where I lived. No one in my family had been to university and the chances of me doing so were zero. So when I decided school had taught me all it could I left and joined the forces. I learnt a profession and when I left the services I carried on in civilian life. Then the Middle East was willing to pay me handsomely for my skills because they did not have them out here. So I came here and am putting those skills to good use for a lot more money than I would receive in Europe. I would venture to suggest that most, if not all of the UK posters on here have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Compare and contrast lets say an average citizen of KSA (male obviously because females are only breeding stock). The family have everything, maids to look after every little thing, no one has to raise a finger. No need to worry about educating themselves at school, who cares if they have no skills because they have so much money they can bring in infidels to do the real work. The state provides everything they want in the way of medicine etc. and free money for a house blah blah blah.
Now which of us two is the more useful person? Which of us contributes to society instead of being a net drain on resources, like oxygen?
Oct 30th 2015 | 5:39 am
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Oct 31st 2015 | 4:16 am
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I am not debating those points, I was on about the western style Saudi-bashing that involved calling them earth worms, etc. Otherwise fair criticism is not something out of place. My attitude generally is that whenever I find a western person indulges in anti-Saudi bashing (not mere criticism) I immediately take up a stand to defend them for a simple reason that his motives are quite so often driven by his idiotic anit-Arabs, anti-islam feelings, and you don’t need to go further than this forum to see my point
Oct 31st 2015 | 7:39 pm
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Re: The House of Saud
I would have thought you were familiar with its MO by now? I will answer though.
Hhhhmmm, jealousy you think? I grew up in a council estate and shared a room with my two younger brothers. My parents worked though, they would rather have died than take any form of state benefits.
It was very obvious to me at a young age that if I wanted to better myself I had to do something more than the rest of the family and others around where I lived. No one in my family had been to university and the chances of me doing so were zero. So when I decided school had taught me all it could I left and joined the forces. I learnt a profession and when I left the services I carried on in civilian life. Then the Middle East was willing to pay me handsomely for my skills because they did not have them out here. So I came here and am putting those skills to good use for a lot more money than I would receive in Europe. I would venture to suggest that most, if not all of the UK posters on here have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Compare and contrast lets say an average citizen of KSA (male obviously because females are only breeding stock). The family have everything, maids to look after every little thing, no one has to raise a finger. No need to worry about educating themselves at school, who cares if they have no skills because they have so much money they can bring in infidels to do the real work. The state provides everything they want in the way of medicine etc. and free money for a house blah blah blah.
Now which of us two is the more useful person? Which of us contributes to society instead of being a net drain on resources, like oxygen?
Hhhhmmm, jealousy you think? I grew up in a council estate and shared a room with my two younger brothers. My parents worked though, they would rather have died than take any form of state benefits.
It was very obvious to me at a young age that if I wanted to better myself I had to do something more than the rest of the family and others around where I lived. No one in my family had been to university and the chances of me doing so were zero. So when I decided school had taught me all it could I left and joined the forces. I learnt a profession and when I left the services I carried on in civilian life. Then the Middle East was willing to pay me handsomely for my skills because they did not have them out here. So I came here and am putting those skills to good use for a lot more money than I would receive in Europe. I would venture to suggest that most, if not all of the UK posters on here have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Compare and contrast lets say an average citizen of KSA (male obviously because females are only breeding stock). The family have everything, maids to look after every little thing, no one has to raise a finger. No need to worry about educating themselves at school, who cares if they have no skills because they have so much money they can bring in infidels to do the real work. The state provides everything they want in the way of medicine etc. and free money for a house blah blah blah.
Now which of us two is the more useful person? Which of us contributes to society instead of being a net drain on resources, like oxygen?
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Oct 31st 2015 | 11:25 pm
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Re: The House of Saud
I found that individuals who were brought up in council estate houses where they had to share a room, (or a box more like it) with other siblings, and were often fed on beans-on-toast as a main meal, given the parents were on state benefits, are the actual ones who have those kinds of ill feelings towards the Saudis who happen to live in big houses with maids and driven to schools in luxury cars.
How many siblings did you have to share a room with when you were (assuming you have grown by now) a kid ?
How many siblings did you have to share a room with when you were (assuming you have grown by now) a kid ?
I had all that and still turned out to be an uneducated (no degree) idiot in many people's eyes.
I give the wealthy Saudis very little thought. If anything, I pity their situation. A Ferrari in Riyadh is about as appealing a a Ferrari in Portsmouth. What's the point? Showing off to your mates who might all have one too? Celebrate the luck of where you were born with some more freely earned extravagance? I'm sure there are plenty of Saudis who have worked hard and achieved great things - don't get me wrong - there will certainly be those self made.
The fact remains that this region CANNOT operate on its own two feet. It HAS to have other people to come and do jobs because the local population CANNOT do them or WILL NOT do them. That could be seen as quite embarrassing, proud nations of millions of men, women and children cannot actually perform some technical roles to a suitable standard?
It's one of those days that I just kind of wish the oil would run out tomorrow. The ensuing hilarity for this region would be nothing short of spectacular.
Oct 31st 2015 | 11:59 pm
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Nov 1st 2015 | 6:33 am
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You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia | Alastair Crooke
Before the oil boom Saudis actually went to other countries, eg The Sudan, to work !
Before the oil boom Saudis actually went to other countries, eg The Sudan, to work !
Nov 3rd 2015 | 10:20 pm
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I am not debating those points, I was on about the western style Saudi-bashing that involved calling them earth worms, etc. Otherwise fair criticism is not something out of place. My attitude generally is that whenever I find a western person indulges in anti-Saudi bashing (not mere criticism) I immediately take up a stand to defend them for a simple reason that his motives are quite so often driven by his idiotic anit-Arabs, anti-islam feelings, and you don’t need to go further than this forum to see my point
These ******s not only give Islam a bad name, but as a nation, are truly, a despicable lot.
And for the record I didn't grow up in some two-bit council flat....one doesn't needs to have a less privileged life to bash the Saudis....anyone with an ounce of intelligence will tell you what a bunch of total wankers they are.
Nov 3rd 2015 | 10:22 pm
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Nov 3rd 2015 | 10:44 pm
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