Originally Posted by Tockalosh (Post 11782965)

I'd take the maid, decent free medical, plenty of booze and whores across the causeway in Bahrain and a big house any day over a corpy house in Yorkshire

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11782966)

You are so shallow!

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11782872)

I would have thought you were familiar with its MO by now? I will answer though.

Hhhhmmm, jealousy you think? I grew up in a council estate and shared a room with my two younger brothers. My parents worked though, they would rather have died than take any form of state benefits.
It was very obvious to me at a young age that if I wanted to better myself I had to do something more than the rest of the family and others around where I lived. No one in my family had been to university and the chances of me doing so were zero. So when I decided school had taught me all it could I left and joined the forces. I learnt a profession and when I left the services I carried on in civilian life. Then the Middle East was willing to pay me handsomely for my skills because they did not have them out here. So I came here and am putting those skills to good use for a lot more money than I would receive in Europe. I would venture to suggest that most, if not all of the UK posters on here have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Compare and contrast lets say an average citizen of KSA (male obviously because females are only breeding stock). The family have everything, maids to look after every little thing, no one has to raise a finger. No need to worry about educating themselves at school, who cares if they have no skills because they have so much money they can bring in infidels to do the real work. The state provides everything they want in the way of medicine etc. and free money for a house blah blah blah.

Now which of us two is the more useful person? Which of us contributes to society instead of being a net drain on resources, like oxygen?

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11783062)

I am not debating those points,

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11783062)

I am not debating those points, I was on about the western style Saudi-bashing that involved calling them earth worms, etc. Otherwise fair criticism is not something out of place. My attitude generally is that whenever I find a western person indulges in anti-Saudi bashing (not mere criticism) I immediately take up a stand to defend them for a simple reason that his motives are quite so often driven by his idiotic anit-Arabs, anti-islam feelings, and you don’t need to go further than this forum to see my point

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11782872)

I would have thought you were familiar with its MO by now? I will answer though.

Hhhhmmm, jealousy you think? I grew up in a council estate and shared a room with my two younger brothers. My parents worked though, they would rather have died than take any form of state benefits.
It was very obvious to me at a young age that if I wanted to better myself I had to do something more than the rest of the family and others around where I lived. No one in my family had been to university and the chances of me doing so were zero. So when I decided school had taught me all it could I left and joined the forces. I learnt a profession and when I left the services I carried on in civilian life. Then the Middle East was willing to pay me handsomely for my skills because they did not have them out here. So I came here and am putting those skills to good use for a lot more money than I would receive in Europe. I would venture to suggest that most, if not all of the UK posters on here have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Compare and contrast lets say an average citizen of KSA (male obviously because females are only breeding stock). The family have everything, maids to look after every little thing, no one has to raise a finger. No need to worry about educating themselves at school, who cares if they have no skills because they have so much money they can bring in infidels to do the real work. The state provides everything they want in the way of medicine etc. and free money for a house blah blah blah.

Now which of us two is the more useful person? Which of us contributes to society instead of being a net drain on resources, like oxygen?

Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11783507)

You realize your rationalie for defending Saudi is hardly different from someone who defends Israeli actions because any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic.

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11782856)

I found that individuals who were brought up in council estate houses where they had to share a room, (or a box more like it) with other siblings, and were often fed on beans-on-toast as a main meal, given the parents were on state benefits, are the actual ones who have those kinds of ill feelings towards the Saudis who happen to live in big houses with maids and driven to schools in luxury cars.

How many siblings did you have to share a room with when you were (assuming you have grown by now) a kid ?

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11783891)

I had all that and still turned out to be an uneducated (no degree) idiot in many people's eyes.

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11783908)

I could not possibly comment :rofl:

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11783062)

I am not debating those points, I was on about the western style Saudi-bashing that involved calling them earth worms, etc. Otherwise fair criticism is not something out of place. My attitude generally is that whenever I find a western person indulges in anti-Saudi bashing (not mere criticism) I immediately take up a stand to defend them for a simple reason that his motives are quite so often driven by his idiotic anit-Arabs, anti-islam feelings, and you don’t need to go further than this forum to see my point

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11786033)

Saudi's are the true mofo's of not only the middle east but of the rest of the world. etc etc.

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11786034)

I hope you got a refund on that tact and diplomacy course you were doing. :lol:

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11786039)

:rofl:
you know me Mike - I tell it like it is :p