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Old Dec 12th 2019, 5:47 am
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I'm a non-voter & non-complainer, but heaven help the UK if JC gets in. I would undoubtedly consider cashing out.
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And they're off, third GE in 5 years, I'll stick with my previous prediction, Boris with around a 50 majority, no Brexit Party MPs.

And if that happens, how long before grandpa quits?
Gone by the end of the weekend. Question is, will he go quietly or will he need to be pushed?
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Old Dec 12th 2019, 8:44 am
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Gone by the end of the weekend. Question is, will he go quietly or will he need to be pushed?
Under communism, every man has what he needs. So they'll puts a sign up that says "nobody needs Corbyn today."
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Some kind of shaky coalition where the DUP hold the balance of power would be my preferred outcome
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And they're off, third GE in 5 years, I'll stick with my previous prediction, Boris with around a 50 majority, no Brexit Party MPs.

And if that happens, how long before grandpa quits?
Best Johnson can hope for is a hung Parliament, and he wont be able to get backing by the DUP as they have gone off him majorly. LIbDems have been haemorrhaging support all the time, Swinson has been so bad, she is in danger of losing her seat. SNP have said they will support Jeremy as will Plaid, there are pictures all over twitter showing very long queues of peoiple at polling stations, and a lot are ypoung people, this is likely to be bad news for Johnson as he knows he has little support among the young.
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Best Johnson can hope for is a hung Parliament, and he wont be able to get backing by the DUP as they have gone off him majorly. LIbDems have been haemorrhaging support all the time, Swinson has been so bad, she is in danger of losing her seat. SNP have said they will support Jeremy as will Plaid, there are pictures all over twitter showing very long queues of peoiple at polling stations, and a lot are ypoung people, this is likely to be bad news for Johnson as he knows he has little support among the young.
Boris is more popular than Corbyn amongst all age groups, even the 18-24 year olds. Turnout will be key in the marginals but piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win you elections as Mrs Clinton found out. Bookies have pretty much even odds between a hung Parliament and a Tory majority which sounds about right. A 20-40 seat majority is an reasonable expectation for Boris and one I am cautiously optimistic for. Any less and we’re no further forward. Any more and the backbenchers won’t be able to keep him honest during the EU trade negotiations.
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Boris is more popular than Corbyn amongst all age groups, even the 18-24 year olds. Turnout will be key in the marginals but piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win you elections as Mrs Clinton found out. Bookies have pretty much even odds between a hung Parliament and a Tory majority which sounds about right. A 20-40 seat majority is an reasonable expectation for Boris and one I am cautiously optimistic for. Any less and we’re no further forward. Any more and the backbenchers won’t be able to keep him honest during the EU trade negotiations.
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Boris is more popular than Corbyn amongst all age groups, even the 18-24 year olds. Turnout will be key in the marginals but piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win you elections as Mrs Clinton found out. Bookies have pretty much even odds between a hung Parliament and a Tory majority which sounds about right. A 20-40 seat majority is an reasonable expectation for Boris and one I am cautiously optimistic for. Any less and we’re no further forward. Any more and the backbenchers won’t be able to keep him honest during the EU trade negotiations.
I doubt that anyone can keep that bumbler honest, it's just not in his psyche. If he gets a working majority the UK can pretty well give up, he will sell of what ever the US wants of the NHS, drug costs will go through the roof, screening tests for cervical cancer, breast cancer will disappear, they have already proposed stopping the screening tests for prostate cancer, and I suspect the screening system for bowel cancer is a likely target.
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BREAKING: EXIT POLL 2019
CONSERVATIVES - 368
LABOUR - 191
LIB DEMS - 13
BREXIT - 0
SNP - 55
= Biggest Conservative majority since Thatcher

That'll do me, I never expected a 90+ majority!
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The DUP has had its day and is now put back into insignificance. They will be punished for their past attempts at bribery.

Poor Jo S. I bet she cried, she was never really cut out for this.
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The DUP has had its day and is now put back into insignificance. They will be punished for their past attempts at bribery.

Poor Jo S. I bet she cried, she was never really cut out for this.
They have lost their majority in the north also - which is a double blow to them
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I am very pleased if only because it was a resounding rejection of Corbyn's strange mixture of left wing antisemitism and loony bin economics. Why so many young people, supposedly the most woke generation ever, so blindly followed a man with all his antisemitism baggage is something I can't quite understand.

Boris has three big challenges on his hands: the EU trade deal, reaching back to Scotland, and delivering something other than Brexit for the Northern working classes. I wish him good luck but I suspect he has a decent chance at all three. He is the most powerful politician in Britain since Blair in 1997 and has a few years to make things happen.
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I am very pleased if only because it was a resounding rejection of Corbyn's strange mixture of left wing antisemitism and loony bin economics. Why so many young people, supposedly the most woke generation ever, so blindly followed a man with all his antisemitism baggage is something I can't quite understand.

Boris has three big challenges on his hands: the EU trade deal, reaching back to Scotland, and delivering something other than Brexit for the Northern working classes. I wish him good luck but I suspect he has a decent chance at all three. He is the most powerful politician in Britain since Blair in 1997 and has a few years to make things happen.
I have to take ypou to task on the antisemitism, no-one has ever managed to find anything antisemitic in any thing he has ever said and done, yes there are antisemitics in all parties, but at least Labour has been getting rid of them, the tories had to get rid of three candidates during the election because of their views. Now the Tories have the problem that one candidate, now an MP, says the way to deal with the homeless is to make them live in tents in potato fields, work from 6am, when finished they would have a cold shower and be in bed by 6:30pm.
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I have to take ypou to task on the antisemitism, no-one has ever managed to find anything antisemitic in any thing he has ever said and done, yes there are antisemitics in all parties, but at least Labour has been getting rid of them, the tories had to get rid of three candidates during the election because of their views. Now the Tories have the problem that one candidate, now an MP, says the way to deal with the homeless is to make them live in tents in potato fields, work from 6am, when finished they would have a cold shower and be in bed by 6:30pm.
I'm sorry? We're talking about Corbyn who refused to apologise four times on BBC for the pervasive antisemitism in his party? A man who laid a wreath on the grave of Palestinian terrorists? A man who supported the early release of Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh. In case you forgot, the pair were convicted in the 1990s in connection with a car bomb explosion outside the Israeli Embassy in London and another against a building in London that housed a number of British Jewish charities. Not only did Corbyn run a campaign to get these two released from prison, but when they were released he acted as a character referee for at least one of them, claiming that Botmeh was a suitable person to be involved in the governance of a British university. Why would he do that? Of all the people in the prison system up and down this land, why would Corbyn have put such effort into getting a release for these two (and praising them, at that) who had been involved in the bombing of Jewish targets in London? Corbyn, who steadily refused to meet with any Israeli representatives while persistently keeping his associations with Palestinian terrorists?

Remind me again that we're still talking about Labour, whose Jewish MPs all resigned because of antisemitism? Where other MPs also stood down and told people not to vote Labour because of the antisemitism? The same Labour Party that is still under investigation by the Equality and Human Rights Commission? The same party that failed to suspend members for their antisemitism? I'm just doubly checking to make sure we're talking about the same Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour party?
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DXB has problems in distinguishing anti-semitism and opposition to some acts of the State of Israel. In his eyes, any criticism of "Eretz Israel" is a crime
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