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scrubbedexpat141 Nov 13th 2019 8:11 pm

General Election
 
Has everyone who can still vote, registered?
Anyone got any ideas or opinions on who will get into No10?

I've got a couple of bets on but nothing major, bookies seem to think Conservatives almost without doubt, even favouring the majority, with next favourite a Labour minority, just ahead of Conservative minority.


BritInParis Nov 13th 2019 11:06 pm

Re: General Election
 
There will be a Conservative government but whether it’ll have a majority and the size of that majority will depend heavily on tactical voting and Leave/Remain alliances being formed.

TheShed Nov 14th 2019 12:28 am

Re: General Election
 
Wait until 8pm (4pm UK) this evening to see if Nige withdraws any more candidates. Will have a big impact in my view

DXBtoDOH Nov 14th 2019 1:08 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by TheShed (Post 12763798)
Wait until 8pm (4pm UK) this evening to see if Nige withdraws any more candidates. Will have a big impact in my view

Farage has morphed into a cartoon buffoon at this point. I'm not sure what game he's playing. Or he's so cut off from reality?

My prediction for the GE is a safely guarded secret.


Pongo Nov 15th 2019 1:03 am

Re: General Election
 
Lets hope Labour sink without trace and Corbyn disappears to the back benches.

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 16th 2019 10:54 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12763812)
Farage has morphed into a cartoon buffoon at this point. I'm not sure what game he's playing. Or he's so cut off from reality?
My prediction for the GE is a safely guarded secret.

Megalols. Great way of putting it.


Originally Posted by Pongo (Post 12764283)
Lets hope Labour sink without trace and Corbyn disappears to the back benches.

Fingers crossed.

TheShed Nov 17th 2019 1:15 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Pongo (Post 12764283)
Lets hope Labour sink without trace and Corbyn disappears to the back benches.

i actually hope he doesn’t lose too badly or else the remoaners will be asking to rerun the election along with the referendum. Takes me back to the days of playing Fergie time whenever Man Ure we’re behind at full time lol.

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 26th 2019 4:06 pm

Re: General Election
 
I'm sure the registration deadline is now or coming up quickly if you haven't already and can still vote.

Don't be a ****, vote.

IKnowNothing Nov 26th 2019 4:13 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12770162)
I'm sure the registration deadline is now or coming up quickly if you haven't already and can still vote.

Don't be a ****, vote.

It expired this morning 4am our time.

Boris to have a 50+ seat majority, Brexit party won't have an MP.

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 26th 2019 4:34 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by IKnowNothing (Post 12770164)
It expired this morning 4am our time.

Boris to have a 50+ seat majority, Brexit party won't have an MP.

Ah shit, I knew it was around now. Thanks.

Odds as it stands:
Cons Majority - 2/5
Labour Minority - 11/2
Cons Minority - 11/2

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 10th 2019 11:04 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12770169)
Ah shit, I knew it was around now. Thanks.

Odds as it stands:
Cons Majority - 2/5
Labour Minority - 11/2
Cons Minority - 11/2

Update on the figures:

Cons Majority - 2/5
Labour Minority - 5/1
Cons Minority - 10/1

So the Labour minority has come in slightly and cons minority drifted significantly. These are still the 3 favourite options, closely followed at 11s by Lab-SNP coalition.

Interesting. I knew Labour were gaining, but let's hope the voters turn out tomorrow and do the right thing.

Millhouse Dec 11th 2019 12:09 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12777124)
let's hope the voters turn out tomorrow and do the right thing.

which is?

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 11th 2019 12:18 am

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12777158)
which is?

Vote. ;)

Millhouse Dec 11th 2019 12:22 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12777164)
Vote. ;)

I'm a non-voter & non-complainer, but heaven help the UK if JC gets in. I would undoubtedly consider cashing out.

IKnowNothing Dec 11th 2019 3:02 pm

Re: General Election
 
And they're off, third GE in 5 years, I'll stick with my previous prediction, Boris with around a 50 majority, no Brexit Party MPs.

And if that happens, how long before grandpa quits?

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 11th 2019 4:47 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12777167)
I'm a non-voter & non-complainer, but heaven help the UK if JC gets in. I would undoubtedly consider cashing out.

A billion percent in agreement.
I voted, because I still can, Mum had sent me the ballot paper with the X already in it :rofl:

BritInParis Dec 11th 2019 7:24 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by IKnowNothing (Post 12777511)
And they're off, third GE in 5 years, I'll stick with my previous prediction, Boris with around a 50 majority, no Brexit Party MPs.

And if that happens, how long before grandpa quits?

Gone by the end of the weekend. Question is, will he go quietly or will he need to be pushed?

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 11th 2019 7:44 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12777566)
Gone by the end of the weekend. Question is, will he go quietly or will he need to be pushed?

Under communism, every man has what he needs. So they'll puts a sign up that says "nobody needs Corbyn today."

weasel decentral Dec 11th 2019 7:50 pm

Re: General Election
 
Some kind of shaky coalition where the DUP hold the balance of power would be my preferred outcome :lol:

mikelincs Dec 11th 2019 9:37 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by IKnowNothing (Post 12777511)
And they're off, third GE in 5 years, I'll stick with my previous prediction, Boris with around a 50 majority, no Brexit Party MPs.

And if that happens, how long before grandpa quits?

Best Johnson can hope for is a hung Parliament, and he wont be able to get backing by the DUP as they have gone off him majorly. LIbDems have been haemorrhaging support all the time, Swinson has been so bad, she is in danger of losing her seat. SNP have said they will support Jeremy as will Plaid, there are pictures all over twitter showing very long queues of peoiple at polling stations, and a lot are ypoung people, this is likely to be bad news for Johnson as he knows he has little support among the young.

BritInParis Dec 11th 2019 11:45 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12777595)
Best Johnson can hope for is a hung Parliament, and he wont be able to get backing by the DUP as they have gone off him majorly. LIbDems have been haemorrhaging support all the time, Swinson has been so bad, she is in danger of losing her seat. SNP have said they will support Jeremy as will Plaid, there are pictures all over twitter showing very long queues of peoiple at polling stations, and a lot are ypoung people, this is likely to be bad news for Johnson as he knows he has little support among the young.

Boris is more popular than Corbyn amongst all age groups, even the 18-24 year olds. Turnout will be key in the marginals but piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win you elections as Mrs Clinton found out. Bookies have pretty much even odds between a hung Parliament and a Tory majority which sounds about right. A 20-40 seat majority is an reasonable expectation for Boris and one I am cautiously optimistic for. Any less and we’re no further forward. Any more and the backbenchers won’t be able to keep him honest during the EU trade negotiations.

nonthaburi Dec 12th 2019 2:41 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12777660)
Boris is more popular than Corbyn amongst all age groups, even the 18-24 year olds. Turnout will be key in the marginals but piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win you elections as Mrs Clinton found out. Bookies have pretty much even odds between a hung Parliament and a Tory majority which sounds about right. A 20-40 seat majority is an reasonable expectation for Boris and one I am cautiously optimistic for. Any less and we’re no further forward. Any more and the backbenchers won’t be able to keep him honest during the EU trade negotiations.

you're a funny guy

mikelincs Dec 12th 2019 3:37 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12777660)
Boris is more popular than Corbyn amongst all age groups, even the 18-24 year olds. Turnout will be key in the marginals but piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win you elections as Mrs Clinton found out. Bookies have pretty much even odds between a hung Parliament and a Tory majority which sounds about right. A 20-40 seat majority is an reasonable expectation for Boris and one I am cautiously optimistic for. Any less and we’re no further forward. Any more and the backbenchers won’t be able to keep him honest during the EU trade negotiations.

I doubt that anyone can keep that bumbler honest, it's just not in his psyche. If he gets a working majority the UK can pretty well give up, he will sell of what ever the US wants of the NHS, drug costs will go through the roof, screening tests for cervical cancer, breast cancer will disappear, they have already proposed stopping the screening tests for prostate cancer, and I suspect the screening system for bowel cancer is a likely target.

IKnowNothing Dec 12th 2019 9:12 am

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í ½íº¨BREAKING: EXIT POLL 2019 í ½íº¨
CONSERVATIVES - 368
LABOUR - 191
LIB DEMS - 13
BREXIT - 0
SNP - 55
= Biggest Conservative majority since Thatcher

That'll do me, I never expected a 90+ majority!

Millhouse Dec 12th 2019 5:44 pm

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The DUP has had its day and is now put back into insignificance. They will be punished for their past attempts at bribery.

Poor Jo S. I bet she cried, she was never really cut out for this.

weasel decentral Dec 12th 2019 6:33 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12778110)
The DUP has had its day and is now put back into insignificance. They will be punished for their past attempts at bribery.

Poor Jo S. I bet she cried, she was never really cut out for this.

They have lost their majority in the north also - which is a double blow to them

DXBtoDOH Dec 13th 2019 12:55 am

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I am very pleased if only because it was a resounding rejection of Corbyn's strange mixture of left wing antisemitism and loony bin economics. Why so many young people, supposedly the most woke generation ever, so blindly followed a man with all his antisemitism baggage is something I can't quite understand.

Boris has three big challenges on his hands: the EU trade deal, reaching back to Scotland, and delivering something other than Brexit for the Northern working classes. I wish him good luck but I suspect he has a decent chance at all three. He is the most powerful politician in Britain since Blair in 1997 and has a few years to make things happen.

mikelincs Dec 13th 2019 4:17 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12778226)
I am very pleased if only because it was a resounding rejection of Corbyn's strange mixture of left wing antisemitism and loony bin economics. Why so many young people, supposedly the most woke generation ever, so blindly followed a man with all his antisemitism baggage is something I can't quite understand.

Boris has three big challenges on his hands: the EU trade deal, reaching back to Scotland, and delivering something other than Brexit for the Northern working classes. I wish him good luck but I suspect he has a decent chance at all three. He is the most powerful politician in Britain since Blair in 1997 and has a few years to make things happen.

I have to take ypou to task on the antisemitism, no-one has ever managed to find anything antisemitic in any thing he has ever said and done, yes there are antisemitics in all parties, but at least Labour has been getting rid of them, the tories had to get rid of three candidates during the election because of their views. Now the Tories have the problem that one candidate, now an MP, says the way to deal with the homeless is to make them live in tents in potato fields, work from 6am, when finished they would have a cold shower and be in bed by 6:30pm.

DXBtoDOH Dec 13th 2019 5:14 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12778408)
I have to take ypou to task on the antisemitism, no-one has ever managed to find anything antisemitic in any thing he has ever said and done, yes there are antisemitics in all parties, but at least Labour has been getting rid of them, the tories had to get rid of three candidates during the election because of their views. Now the Tories have the problem that one candidate, now an MP, says the way to deal with the homeless is to make them live in tents in potato fields, work from 6am, when finished they would have a cold shower and be in bed by 6:30pm.

I'm sorry? We're talking about Corbyn who refused to apologise four times on BBC for the pervasive antisemitism in his party? A man who laid a wreath on the grave of Palestinian terrorists? A man who supported the early release of Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh. In case you forgot, the pair were convicted in the 1990s in connection with a car bomb explosion outside the Israeli Embassy in London and another against a building in London that housed a number of British Jewish charities. Not only did Corbyn run a campaign to get these two released from prison, but when they were released he acted as a character referee for at least one of them, claiming that Botmeh was a suitable person to be involved in the governance of a British university. Why would he do that? Of all the people in the prison system up and down this land, why would Corbyn have put such effort into getting a release for these two (and praising them, at that) who had been involved in the bombing of Jewish targets in London? Corbyn, who steadily refused to meet with any Israeli representatives while persistently keeping his associations with Palestinian terrorists?

Remind me again that we're still talking about Labour, whose Jewish MPs all resigned because of antisemitism? Where other MPs also stood down and told people not to vote Labour because of the antisemitism? The same Labour Party that is still under investigation by the Equality and Human Rights Commission? The same party that failed to suspend members for their antisemitism? I'm just doubly checking to make sure we're talking about the same Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour party?

scot47 Dec 13th 2019 6:37 am

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DXB has problems in distinguishing anti-semitism and opposition to some acts of the State of Israel. In his eyes, any criticism of "Eretz Israel" is a crime

Thairetired2016 Dec 13th 2019 6:51 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12778490)
DXB has problems in distinguishing anti-semitism and opposition to some acts of the State of Israel. In his eyes, any criticism of "Eretz Israel" is a crime

:goodpost:

BritInParis Dec 13th 2019 10:34 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12777572)
Under communism, every man has what he needs. So they'll puts a sign up that says "nobody needs Corbyn today."

So he’ll need to be pushed. I would say it’s unbelievable but it pretty much sums the man up - utterly detached from reality.

BritInParis Dec 13th 2019 10:35 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12778490)
DXB has problems in distinguishing anti-semitism and opposition to some acts of the State of Israel. In his eyes, any criticism of "Eretz Israel" is a crime


Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12778673)
:goodpost:

None so blind... :rolleyes:

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 14th 2019 4:37 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12778442)
I'm sorry? We're talking about Corbyn who refused to apologise four times on BBC for the pervasive antisemitism in his party? A man who laid a wreath on the grave of Palestinian terrorists? A man who supported the early release of Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh. In case you forgot, the pair were convicted in the 1990s in connection with a car bomb explosion outside the Israeli Embassy in London and another against a building in London that housed a number of British Jewish charities. Not only did Corbyn run a campaign to get these two released from prison, but when they were released he acted as a character referee for at least one of them, claiming that Botmeh was a suitable person to be involved in the governance of a British university. Why would he do that? Of all the people in the prison system up and down this land, why would Corbyn have put such effort into getting a release for these two (and praising them, at that) who had been involved in the bombing of Jewish targets in London? Corbyn, who steadily refused to meet with any Israeli representatives while persistently keeping his associations with Palestinian terrorists?

Remind me again that we're still talking about Labour, whose Jewish MPs all resigned because of antisemitism? Where other MPs also stood down and told people not to vote Labour because of the antisemitism? The same Labour Party that is still under investigation by the Equality and Human Rights Commission? The same party that failed to suspend members for their antisemitism? I'm just doubly checking to make sure we're talking about the same Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour party?

Yes, yes, yes, but where is the signed document from Corbyn saying he's anti-semitic or that his party has ever had anyone anti-semitic in it? :rofl:


Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12778712)
So he’ll need to be pushed. I would say it’s unbelievable but it pretty much sums the man up - utterly detached from reality.

Let's just be grateful the scruffy champagne socialist chancer has gone.


mikelincs Dec 14th 2019 7:45 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12778937)
Yes, yes, yes, but where is the signed document from Corbyn saying he's anti-semitic or that his party has ever had anyone anti-semitic in it? :rofl:



.

I bet he would do it IF all the other parties would do the same regarding antisemitism, antiIslam, antiLGBT, etc. but it will never happen BECAUSE all parties have members who are anti something like that, many of them sucessful at keeping it hidden, away from public discovery. Two of the newly elected Tory MPs are under investigation for possible antisemitic comments, membership of extremely dodgy Facebook groups allied to antisemitism, Unfortunaely the MSM is loath to publicise these stories as they don't fit what they consider newsworthy, i.e. they dont involve Jeremy or the Labour party.

BritInParis Dec 14th 2019 9:47 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12778937)
Yes, yes, yes, but where is the signed document from Corbyn saying he's anti-semitic or that his party has ever had anyone anti-semitic in it? :rofl:

Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot ;)


Let's just be grateful the scruffy champagne socialist chancer has gone.
Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.

mikelincs Dec 14th 2019 11:42 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12779014)
Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot ;)



Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.

I doubt that, I suspect that Johnson may well make the tories unelectable for a generation given the mess he's likely to cause.

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 14th 2019 11:49 pm

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12779014)
Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot ;)



Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.

He probably deserves a statue for the latter. Only sad thing is the huge number of young people voting for him, my age group was landslide Labour. I guess soon enough the 65+ category will be gone and we'll have a changing of the guard.

BEVS Dec 15th 2019 7:04 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12779043)
. Only sad thing is the huge number of young people voting for him, my age group was landslide Labour.

They did . They found their voice and voted for what they felt was best for their country. I'd say that is a good thing not a sad thing.

nonthaburi Dec 15th 2019 7:12 am

Re: General Election
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12779014)
Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot ;)



Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.

Not so sure about that. Bojo owns brexit now, so when it all goes wrong, which it surely will, when the promises get broken, which they surely will, he and the conservatives will have to take the rap.

Don't think all these new tory seats will remain tory for ever somehow, seeing how in most predictions they're in the same places most likely to be hardest hit economically by brexit.


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