nonthaburi

which has to be hit for six months consecutively before applying as well, so the applicant had better hope they have some very good natured grandparents, or access to free five days a week government childcare.

so yeah, it's not impossible....

BritInParis

Or maybe the father could deign to help.

nonthaburi

And how would the father do that when he's not in the country to take care of the children?

Or are you seriously suggesting that the father is working in his home country, which may or may not be a lower income country, to pay for full time childcare while the mother works for six months to get the 18k income?

err yeah, it's not impossible.

BritInParis

That’s one solution but I suspect it would be easy for the children simply to remain with the father in their home country.

nonthaburi

just curious, but are there any little brits running around in Paris?

BritInParis

If there are I’m not aware of them. I haven’t lived there for years.

Millhouse

i still stand by this well researched, insightful political analysis.

scrubbedexpat141

Just so happened to be awake when the vote came in.

First time I've genuinely listened to Corbyn, you know, with actual focus on what he's saying and how etc. Turns out my previous opinion still stands correct, the mans a ****ing clown.

Millhouse

I had just set up my firestick so watched it live. Corbyn was doing so well until he had to turn the page of his notes and lost track, albeit briefly.

May is a trooper, but she'll be done soon. What a job.

Brexit won't happen - this wasn't a vote for crashing out, it's a vote for ref2

#ref2

csdf

What's the benefit of the fire stick over the standard apps on your TV?

Millhouse

Couldn't install the following on the samsung TV:
1. a vpn
2. Skynews app

The DNS trick works for iplayer etc. a VPN is needed for other material that is blocked on Etishite but was not blocked on Du.

scrubbedexpat141

I hope enough people see through the way he's behaved in driving this into the ground in thinning hopes of him securing a general election win out of it. His behaviour has put his own ambitions and desires ahead of everything else and whilst commendable (because **** me he's nearly managed it) it's disgraceful to be such an obvious champagne socialist.....but again, **** me, people believe him don't they?

Anyway.

I think it will still happen. The fall out of it not happening is monumental isn't it? Riots? Discord?

What I sort of don't get is why when article 50 was triggered, we didn't start the negotiating then...not for a temporary deal, but for permanent ones. The deals being voted on are for under 2 years to make the transition smoother. If it takes sub 2 years of time after we withdraw to secure enough agreements to not just jump off a cliff......why not start and finish that when it was triggered in the first place?

DXBtoDOH

Because the EU refused any discussions on the permanent trade deal until the Withdrawal Agreement had been agreed to.

Yes, logically, it should have happened alongside the WA but the EU refused to budge from their rules governing the negotiations. It might (and I use that word lightly) have been possible for the British negotiators to refuse to discuss the WA unless the EU was willing to discuss the permanent trade treaty alongside it but if that was ever possible we obviously missed the opportunity long ago.

The whole point of the Irish backstop tied to the WA is to have an insurance in case the actual deal with the EU fell through that the border would remain open. Astute minds also pointed out that the EU could use the threat of the backstop to effectively get the UK to cave in to all their demands in exchange for a deal so pretty much all the concessions May got as part of the WA would probably be lost, such as the fishing and even ending FOM. It was why the backstop was so controversial.

Millhouse

I have to give it to you... you have summarized very well a complex and difficult problem in your last two sentences.

scrubbedexpat141

Thanks. Must have missed that a couple of years ago!