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Brains1983 Aug 21st 2013 4:05 am

Ear Piercing
 
Had a bit of an argument with the wife last night, she had our daughters ears pierced at the hospital. Young Martina is not yet 3 months old.

Wife tells me this is normal in Brazil while I am I of the opinion that 3 months is far too young.

Am I right to be pissed off or am I in the wrong on this?

Kim67 Aug 21st 2013 4:13 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861254)
Had a bit of an argument with the wife last night, she had our daughters ears pierced at the hospital. Young Martina is not yet 3 months old.

Wife tells me this is normal in Brazil while I am I of the opinion that 3 months is far too young.

Am I right to be pissed off or am I in the wrong on this?

My girls don't have their ears pierced and they are 10 and 14 - it's now optional and neither of them have taken up the offer. Before they were old enough to look after the responsibility of taking care of them they were not allowed.

Regardless of what age you think is okay, it should be the decision of BOTH parents.

Kix Aug 21st 2013 4:45 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
You should be pissed off. Your wife did it without discussing this with you.

As an (extreme) example, female circumcision is the accepted practice in certain countries. Would it be OK for you if your wife had that done to your daughter without any discussion?

scrubbedexpat141 Aug 21st 2013 4:49 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861254)
Had a bit of an argument with the wife last night, she had our daughters ears pierced at the hospital. Young Martina is not yet 3 months old.

Wife tells me this is normal in Brazil while I am I of the opinion that 3 months is far too young.

Am I right to be pissed off or am I in the wrong on this?

Things like this are allowed to piss you off.

It now means you're going to have a baby with earrings...now I'm not one to judge (:rofl:) but babies with earrings means the parents are pikeys where I'm from. You don't seem like a pikey, or in fact Brazilian.

Maybe just have a go and use a MS Word template for a permission slip or something, make the wife come and get it signed whenever she wants to do something Brazilian with the little lady? ;)

Millhouse Aug 21st 2013 5:24 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
Tough one. To be honest, she probably didn't even think of the consequences or importance of the decision she made as for her is it just normal.

Let it go - but not until you have pissed in her tea.

Saff_Parker Aug 21st 2013 5:51 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
I had my ears pierced at about 2 months old.. so I'm biased in that I don't see what the problem is. But I *can* understand where you're coming from. It's normal in some countries, I'd say it's almost like a tribal custom. Let it be. Can't really undo it now. Wife should have informed you first htough.

Saff

scrubbedexpat141 Aug 21st 2013 5:54 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 10861331)

Let it go - but not until you have pissed in her tea.

No, she'll taste that.

Just dip the left nut in the tea, or pour the milk over it into...she'll never notice and you'll have the sweetest satisfaction.

Saff_Parker Aug 21st 2013 5:55 am

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Aguguihgh D:

Bongoman2 Aug 21st 2013 6:17 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10861349)
Just dip the left nut in the tea

I hope she likes her tea warm and not scolding hot then.

scrubbedexpat141 Aug 21st 2013 6:18 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Bongoman2 (Post 10861369)
I hope she likes her tea warm and not scolding hot then.

If you're concerned with the water temp (rightly so) then use the milk drizzle option.

flares Aug 21st 2013 6:27 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
Why wouldn't she consult you? Gotta love the firey Latinos.

On the Brazil theme I've stuck my application in for WC tickets. Matches 12, 20 & 31. Obrigado.

Brains1983 Aug 21st 2013 6:34 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by saudiflares (Post 10861378)
Why wouldn't she consult you? Gotta love the firey Latinos.

On the Brazil theme I've stuck my application in for WC tickets. Matches 12, 20 & 31. Obrigado.

12 is down beside where my wife is from. I'm in for 12, 26, 35 & 48. Also got all of the wife's family registering for tickets aswell.

Brains1983 Aug 21st 2013 6:35 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
I guess there is bugger all I can do about it now anyway, not worth the hassle of being bothered about it. moving on.

Brains1983 Aug 21st 2013 6:35 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10861371)
If you're concerned with the water temp (rightly so) then use the milk drizzle option.

or micro it afterwards...

scrubbedexpat141 Aug 21st 2013 7:04 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861386)
or micro it afterwards...

There you go.

Private victory, saves having the argument but you're happy that you've got some revenge.

I actually wouldn't recommend it though.

Irishbeekeeper Aug 21st 2013 7:06 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
well naturally my first reaction would have to go nuclear ofcourse, if I wasnt told beforehand
but having said that...where I am from, its perfectly natural for the women to get it done in the first few months as (and I dont know if its medically true or not) the wise ones say that it hurts the baby less as most of the nerve endings havent developed at that early stage
and based on that we get the boys circumcised within the first 10 days (usually), yes I know I know how bad that sounds and trust me it looks much worse and I was cringing both times and kept on saying sorry to the poor lads all day next day but its custom, what can you do? I know there are a lot of religious discussions for it and a lot of medical discussions for and against it but I am just trying to say that I understand where you wife is coming from. When its custom from where is one from and when you grow up with everyone around you being ok with it, then it sort of becomes second nature to you I guess. Sort of like those giraffe neck ladies or the chinese small feet ladies, both horrible practices in my opinion, but that just proves my point doesnt it :D

btw micro after...not before ;)

Blue Cat Aug 21st 2013 7:46 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 
My 9 year old has asked for her ears to be pierced, I have no issue with it at all but I know it will hurt and she will end up only getting the one done. She can wait til she is in her teens then get it done if she still wants too. Personally I hate it on babies but it is a cultural thing. I would have been furious as well if I was in your shoes Brains.

scrubbedexpat141 Aug 21st 2013 8:10 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 10861475)
My 9 year old has asked for her ears to be pierced, I have no issue with it at all but I know it will hurt and she will end up only getting the one done. She can wait til she is in her teens then get it done if she still wants too. Personally I hate it on babies but it is a cultural thing. I would have been furious as well if I was in your shoes Brains.

Let her do it and tell her she's got it easy. My Mum and Auntie pierced each other's ears with cork, ice and a needle.

shiva Aug 21st 2013 8:39 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861419)
and based on that we get the boys circumcised within the first 10 days (usually), yes I know I know how bad that sounds and trust me it looks much worse and I was cringing both times and kept on saying sorry to the poor lads all day next day but its custom, what can you do?

what can you do?

errrr, how about not following a barbaric tradition based in a time of no soap and clean water, both of which trump any so called medical justification.

Dorothy Aug 21st 2013 8:49 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10861507)
Let her do it and tell her she's got it easy. My Mum and Auntie pierced each other's ears with cork, ice and a needle.

My sister did mine when I was about 6 with a needle and ice cubes. My mother was not amused.

Dumbo Aug 21st 2013 9:06 am

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http://www.feminiya.com/wp-content/u...ith-babies.jpg

Baby ear piercing.......what could possibly be wrong with that? :thumbdown:

DohaLady Aug 21st 2013 9:09 am

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I think little girls look cute with pierced ears :scarper:

Dorothy Aug 21st 2013 9:11 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Dumbo (Post 10861575)
http://www.feminiya.com/wp-content/u...ith-babies.jpg

Baby ear piercing.......what could possibly be wrong with that? :thumbdown:

WTF!! Does that baby have tattooed eyebrows? :ohmy:

Dumbo Aug 21st 2013 10:24 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 10861579)
WTF!! Does that baby have tattooed eyebrows? :ohmy:

Seeing as how the mother has a vanity issue and is giving her pierced ears, I would think it is more likely pencilled on eye brows rather than tattoos. I would like to see more pencil moustachiod women.......looks hot......


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JYT5ro65Xm.../moustache.png

flares Aug 21st 2013 10:28 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861383)
12 is down beside where my wife is from. I'm in for 12, 26, 35 & 48. Also got all of the wife's family registering for tickets aswell.

Curtiba...looks nice as does Porto Alegre.

Being in't South not as tropical as the rest of the country and could therefore be a bit nippy in June. I'd be surprised if my application is successful. Tickets are expensive though so that may lower demand.

Bahtatboy Aug 21st 2013 10:44 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861383)
12 is down beside where my wife is from. I'm in for 12, 26, 35 & 48. Also got all of the wife's family registering for tickets aswell.

Is that the special fried rice or the prawn balls?

Bahtatboy Aug 21st 2013 10:45 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 10861548)
My sister did mine when I was about 6 with a needle and ice cubes. My mother was not amused.

I had to double check to see if that was ears or foreskin. The ice cubes I could handle...

Brains1983 Aug 21st 2013 10:45 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by saudiflares (Post 10861676)
Curtiba...looks nice as does Porto Alegre.

Being in't South not as tropical as the rest of the country and could therefore be a bit nippy in June. I'd be surprised if my application is successful. Tickets are expensive though so that may lower demand.

I read that they expect a similar demand to Germany in 06 / 7 applicants per ticket. However I also expect that most foreigners are going to apply for Rio / SP and Braslia (not sure offhand if Recife is hosting, if so - them aswell). Curitiba and Porto Alegre will attract Argentina and German fans I would image.

June will be fine tempwise, warmer than Scotland that's for sure!

I'm heading off there in a couple weeks - 3 weeks of doing nothing and since I'm working my notice - the blackberry is staying on my desk!

Brains1983 Aug 21st 2013 10:48 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861708)
Is that the special fried rice or the prawn balls?

That part of Brazil is likely to be Saurkraut or Bratwurst!

Irishbeekeeper Aug 21st 2013 11:30 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 10861532)
what can you do?

errrr, how about not following a barbaric tradition based in a time of no soap and clean water, both of which trump any so called medical justification.

:) but that's exactly my point mate. Cust

Irishbeekeeper Aug 21st 2013 11:34 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 10861532)
what can you do?

errrr, how about not following a barbaric tradition based in a time of no soap and clean water, both of which trump any so called medical justification.

:) but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.

Bahtatboy Aug 21st 2013 12:11 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861781)
:) but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.

:confused: Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...

Irishbeekeeper Aug 21st 2013 12:23 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861847)
:confused: Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...

Yes, good point, what I meant to say was that most customs today, since it does not make any sense to keep on doing them.
But all these customs would have been called common practice back then right? They evolved into customs, I guess.

Bahtatboy Aug 21st 2013 12:25 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861875)
Yes, good point, what I meant to say was that most customs today.
But all these cust

Ah, fair enough.

Cust? I could murder a trifle right now.

Irishbeekeeper Aug 21st 2013 12:41 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861879)
Ah, fair enough.

Cust? I could murder a trifle right now.

:rofl:
Shrimp cocktail for me right now please, and I have no idea why! :unsure:

shiva Aug 21st 2013 2:14 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861781)
:) but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.

my point being they no longer need to be done just by dint of being a custom

shiva Aug 21st 2013 2:14 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861847)
:confused: Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...

exactly

kittycat1 Aug 21st 2013 3:25 pm

Re: Ear Piercing
 
I'd be livid! If i had a baby and if I had a husband and he took her off and had holes put in her ears at such a young age without my permission there would be hell to pay! You are absolutely right to be pissed off.

I feinted having my ears pierced, it bloody hurt, why would you do that to a baby?

flares Nov 3rd 2013 8:20 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861712)
I read that they expect a similar demand to Germany in 06 / 7 applicants per ticket. However I also expect that most foreigners are going to apply for Rio / SP and Braslia (not sure offhand if Recife is hosting, if so - them aswell). Curitiba and Porto Alegre will attract Argentina and German fans I would image.

June will be fine tempwise, warmer than Scotland that's for sure!

I'm heading off there in a couple weeks - 3 weeks of doing nothing and since I'm working my notice - the blackberry is staying on my desk!

looks like I may be in Curitiba, Rio and Porto Alegre next year after all. Money's left my account...but no contact from FIFA :confused:

banter64 Nov 3rd 2013 10:06 am

Re: Ear Piercing
 

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861254)
Had a bit of an argument with the wife last night, she had our daughters ears pierced at the hospital. Young Martina is not yet 3 months old.

Wife tells me this is normal in Brazil while I am I of the opinion that 3 months is far too young.

Am I right to be pissed off or am I in the wrong on this?

Annoyed for not consulting you yes, i have a daughter and her ears were pierced at 2 months, it was a joint decision and the reason for me was first and foremost it is cultural thing and secondly that they will not remember the pain as they do when they are older. I did however use emla cream on her ears so that they were numb :)


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