Is the dream dead?

Old Apr 30th 2019, 5:27 pm
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Lehman was more than a decade ago and Dubai is still there. The oil price crash is five years old and Abu Dhabi is still there. Expats are supposedly leaving and being denied gold-plated packages but 48-year-old British engineers and their 28-year-old Pinay girlfriends are still tearing it up at Friday brunch.

What do we think? Is this the end of days or Expat 2.0?
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Lehman was more than a decade ago and Dubai is still there. The oil price crash is five years old and Abu Dhabi is still there. Expats are supposedly leaving and being denied gold-plated packages but 48-year-old British engineers and their 28-year-old Pinay girlfriends are still tearing it up at Friday brunch.

What do we think? Is this the end of days or Expat 2.0?
It’s certainly changed. Back in the day the pinay girlfriends were younger and the engineers older and fatter.
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What’s your age and waist size?
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What’s your age and waist size?
In no particular order the two numbers are 40 and 30. I'll let you decide which way round they are. As a clue, I don't have a pinay girlfriend though as I still have a modicum of self-respect.
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The Pinay bit or the girlfriend bit being the issue?
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Lehman was more than a decade ago and Dubai is still there. The oil price crash is five years old and Abu Dhabi is still there. Expats are supposedly leaving and being denied gold-plated packages but 48-year-old British engineers and their 28-year-old Pinay girlfriends are still tearing it up at Friday brunch.

What do we think? Is this the end of days or Expat 2.0?
Sounds bitter. Is your Pinay girlfriend too old now?
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Sounds bitter. Is your Pinay girlfriend too old now?
yeh. She passed her use-by date. Fun while it lasted but they go sour faster than the milk here.
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yeh. She passed her use-by date. Fun while it lasted but they go sour faster than the milk here.
Yeah and they stop looking like kids...
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As a western expat I don't believe any region is capable of providing a long term gold plated lifestyle, surely the cycle is that the region improves to the point where foreign mercenaries are no longer required and then the lucrative opportunities disappear.

Dubai 2.0 is the land of opportunity for people coming from India or similar places, the moment has passed for the the run of the mill 48 year old red nosed engineer, unless he is prepared to readjust to that new reality.
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As a western expat I don't believe any region is capable of providing a long term gold plated lifestyle, surely the cycle is that the region improves to the point where foreign mercenaries are no longer required and then the lucrative opportunities disappear.

Dubai 2.0 is the land of opportunity for people coming from India or similar places, the moment has passed for the the run of the mill 48 year old red nosed engineer, unless he is prepared to readjust to that new reality.
spot on. You’ll always need to move to the next frontier. Not that Dubai was really ever a frontier.

Dubai may revert back for the few if oil prices remain high and the locals get fed up with the Indians mismanaging everything but that remains to be seen. A gold rush for the masses is over - it’s quite interesting to see the marginal westerners get flushed out by the realities of a tough macro environment.


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Dubai was never a frontier. Small-town Saudi Arabia - there is the challenge.. Not for softies ! No snowflakes there !
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Heard today that 150 people have been let go from the Burj al Arab, with jumeriah also letting more go from other properties - all nationalities affected not just the expensive ones.
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Where is the next gravy train for UK expats ?
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Dubai was never a frontier. Small-town Saudi Arabia - there is the challenge.. Not for softies ! No snowflakes there !
Absolutely correct, Saudi is going to be the land of opportunity for the foreseeable.

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Where is the next gravy train for UK expats ?
Agree with your comments on Dubai. It's KSA next though.
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Where is the next gravy train for UK expats ?
In my line, probably SEA. Already putting feelers out in Vietnam, Myanmar.... Been to Thailand and Vietnam working before, but they are still slowly trying to work their way out of the trough...
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