Corporal Punishment
 

Interesting to see that children in the UAE still get occasional beatings from teachers despite the practice having been officially banned. Any thoughts?

http://en.news.maktoob.com/200900005...er/Article.htm

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Am not sure about beatings but I am a supporter of smacking and given the breakdown of discipline in UK classrooms would be happy to see it come back.

N.

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We used to get a steel ruler across the knuckles, painful but effective. How about you ladies? Did you ever get spanked?;)

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Steel ruler,was that at engineering collage ?.
We had wooden ruler.cane,strap,dap(plimsoll) pulled up by the sideburns and one teacher would make us kneel, arms outstretched to the side with books on our hands.When the arms fell below a certain level he would swipe you under the arm with a cane.
A complete bunch of sadistic bastards!

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any teacher lays a finger on my child and I will see them in Court :sneaky:

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i got the belt a few times at school. Once for breaknig a window and one for punching a prefect.

Both times it was warranted and i had no complaints, nor did my parents who beat me to a pulp also.

Kids nowadays need a good hiding every now and then to bring them back in line

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If that happened, I certainly wouldn't take a teacher to court so long as my girl's behaviour deserved punishment. Kids these days are pampered far too much. Even though I would never raise my hand to my daughter under any circumstances, teachers and mothers can be excused the occasional blemish in that regard.

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You were lucky. My parents used to hack me to pieces with an axe and dance naked around my body singing Halleluyah.

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I think "appropriate" is a key words here... I find it the height of irony that an adult should hit a child to teach the child not to hit.

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but you would have no issues with a Teacher doing it? yeah right :rolleyes:

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Mine got a short sharp slap on the bag of her legs yesterday for being downright cheeky and disrespectful :p

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I'd be happy to give a teacher written permission to smack my boy if it was warranted. I think just telling him that I've told the teacher he can smack him would create a spate of sweet and lovely behaviour.

Lack of discipline in the class, respect for elders and declining community parenting are reasons we see so much youth crime and delinquency today - instead of insuring sadistic teachers were reprimanded/removed and creating a better framework for discipline (like asking for parental permission for example) we just banned all forms of corporal punishment period. This is like banning all cars because some people don't drive properly or banning booze because when some people get drunk they do bad things.

Am sure most generations say this but the behaviour of many teens today is way beyond shocking. We didn't have teens shooting each other in the UK 30 years ago as far as I recall (am open to correction). Teen crime is at all time high - because the children know they can't be touched.

Mine too...except that was only if we were lucky. We were usually murdered with cold blood.

Amazing how when you tell kids that these days though they don't believe us ;)

N.

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She's lucky.

We had our legs amputated at the hip for being cheeky...if we were lucky ;)

N.

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I was a boarder for two years, and my abiding memory is being frequently caned by an overweight middle-aged woman called 'Matron'......

.......... these days, if I want that, I have to pay good money for it.......... :o

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that's what I told her :thumbup:

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Exactly right. Shadya or her teacher can smack Jasmine but I never would. Simple fact. I have never raised my hand to a woman either. Its just the way I was brought up I guess.:o

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there is nothing wrong with that, but sometimes Dad's have to dish out discipline as well :p

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This actually explains quite a lot.

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I raise my hand to women a lot. The other day I had to give the ex a Nazi salute to keep her happy...

N.

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My form of discipline is probably more painful as it usually involves withholding spending money.:)

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Aye, she will sure miss that weekly 10AED handout from Daddy LH.

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you think it's that high?

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Any corporal punishment is a confession of failure from the adult!

And teacher who do resort to physical punishment should resign immediately.
How someone, who is educated in pedagogy, can find any excuse to raise his hand against a child is beyond me.

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friend of ours is a retired head, he taught in the 60s, 70s and 80s, and he's totally against corporal punishment. like he says, if hitting kids was so effective at maintaining discipline, how come schools had to do it every day?

he says that it was only a deterrent for the kids who didn't want to get into trouble in the first place. the nutters and headcases, the ones who most needed to be kept in line, weren't scared of it.

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Luxury.

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I'd be interested to know if he thinks that there is a general lack of respect for teachers in many schools (in the UK in particular) these days. When I was a child, it was expected that you were polite to all adults and listened to them, but children don't seem to be taught that so much these days.

Seems a shame as badly-behaved, ill-mannered children grow up to be rude, unpleasant adults and we have enough of those as it is...

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depends on the school. a sought-after school will usually have parents who care about how their kids behave and have brought them up to be polite and respect other people... low-performing schools often have lots of kids whose parents don't give a toss...

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Yeah, I blame it on the parents, too. No, really.

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i don't smack my own kids (though god knows they probably need it!) so i certainly wouldn't want anyone else (teacher) doing it...

meow, you're right about the respect thing...loads of kids in the uk don't respect their teachers...my kids' school here works hard on instilling good manners/respect for teachers/parents and you can see it works as you walk round the school...when they finish school for the day, they have to shake hands with the teacher, it's very formal, but i like it...

MM, xx

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Eugghhh. Shaking the hands of 30 teenage, nose-picking, pocket-billiard-playing, don't-wash-after-peeing, sneezing-into-palms, zit-picking schoolboys. Only if I was wearing surgical gloves.

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they are pristine 7/8 year olds, lol...and he's a man u fan, he's used to it...

MM ,xx

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Fair enough:D

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Still, you can't force respect, you have to earn it!

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We don't smack mini... unless of course he bites our ass while we are washing up and then he gets an immediate clump around the head. He doesn't do that very often these days.

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But you can still teach children to behave respectfully towards adults. Earning respect is a concept for adults, not for small children who tend to either like or dislike someone so need to be taught about behaving respectfully.

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Don't forget masturbating in the lavatories.

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I just can't imagine you dominated by a Hattie Jacques look-a-like in a BDSM session ! :eek:

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As Meow said, its the difference between respect for the position / authority, and respect for the person. I've worked for numerous people for whom I've had zero respect, but I've still respected their position (and my need to keep a job).

My parents instilled in me the need for respect for my teachers, and I've done the same to my children but have, as they've matured, given tolerance for them to discern the qualities of their teachers as people but still insisted that they respect the position.

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Sorry, but I so do not agree with you. If someone is a jerk, he's a jerk, no matter of his position and I'd tell him so.
What I teach my children is politeness, but not blind respect.
And children in general do what they see and not what they are told. So if the parents behave like morons usually their children are not much different. Same with nice parents, they have usually nice children.
So my children are very nice and very perfect :-)

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I'm a firm believer that kids should be given three chances. Install CCTV in every classroom. If you catch a pupil doing something absolutely out of order (like jumping up on the tables, running across the tables in the classroom then launching themselves into the air and punching another pupil – something that happened in an year 10 english class I was in) they have one strike and the video evidence records it.

Three of those things – suspendible or expellable offenses, and rather than play pass the parcel with them amongst the schools in an LEA, they should be sent to army school and told they will spend the rest of their education there, where after it, they will be made to serve for at least 10 years in the forces.

If they decide that they want to mess about there, then I'm all for typical punishments for insubordination being doled out. If they've made it that far, then perhaps corporal punishment should be tried.

But in the regular school system? Nope.