Originally Posted by Madam Medusa

ohhh...i do recycle since the kids schools have started offering the facility...must say it was much easier at home cos the council were really hot on recycling and we had all sorts of recycling bins and boxes which were collected every week...

MM, xx

Originally Posted by shakh your bootie

Peak oil in itself can actually be a helpful factor; with the oil price as it is, it makes fossil fuel alternatives financially attractive. There is no conceptual reason why you could not supply energy needs through a mix of nuclear, ethanol fuels, solar produced H2 fuel cells, geothermal, wind power etc etc... There are good reasons why 4 nations are sending probes to the moon over the next 12 months - or more correctly, one good reason which is Helium 3 - sufficient supply of which would fuel a tokamak-geometry fusion reactor industry, which is a measure of the growing level of confidence that the Euro-Japanese tokamak fusion reactor project will finally realise the dream of sustainable fusion.

There are sufficient alternatives to the energy suply problem to both sustain humanity and mitigate the need to produce energy through carbon-chain combustion that produces CO2 - the question is whether collective humanity has the intelligence to fundamentally change its behaviour, or whether market forces and short sighted political interest will continue to determine our decision making and lead us down a destructive path.

Nature is fundamentally self-regulating; if you simplify it down to a simple predator-prey model, if we overuse our resources we will eventually reach a tipping point where the population is significantly reduced, or wiped out all together (depending on the parameters - it is a non-linear feed-back system, so has sensitivity to parametric variation). Given that we have the intelligence to understand our own condition, it then becomes a question of whether we then have the intellect and wisdom to make strategic decisions, or charge lemming like into an uncertain future...

{Shaks removes his spectacles and wanders from the lectern}

Originally Posted by Eva

You are fairly generous in your prediction.Guess you are a Geordie from the south side of Hadrian's.Seriously,v interesting points-however....'the throw money at it' mentality is the norm here.....

Originally Posted by littlejimmy

Well, I was born North of Hadrian's wall, but just on the English side, but I now live in North Yorks. I was in Dubai for a year up until July.

Originally Posted by Big Geezer

Guess you are a bit confused then ? hahaha

Just messing mate.

Originally Posted by Eva

Never mind....worse things coulda happened
Do you do the mad Northumbrian Music Festival....?


So are ye back on the Tyne canny lad?You recently had a wee cherub yes/no?......mean your wife had anOther babe......nothing to do with your short lived career in DXB

Originally Posted by The Dean

Nobody will do anything until they actually FEEL the effects...... by which time it will of course be too late.

I have never met anyone who, in polite company, admits to worrying about 'global warming', 'climate change' etc.

As one of my intelligent (......er, well Eton and Oxford actually, but in theory.... well, you know) friends once said to me: "Greenhouse effect? Warmer winters and drier summers?? Yes please!!"

We are doomed.

And what's worse - as the problem intensifies, there will be more of Al Gore on the telly........

Originally Posted by Eva

Never mind....worse things coulda happened
Do you do the mad Northumbrian Music Festival....?


So are ye back on the Tyne canny lad?You recently had a wee cherub yes/no?......mean your wife had anOther babe......nothing to do with your short lived career in DXB

Originally Posted by Eva

Big Geezer....you are all over this place like an outbreak of chickenpox....
What bit of the last post; not that it was posted to you are you having trouble with......

Originally Posted by Eva

Eva??? what ..? Why are you having trouble with it?

Big Geeser? ...Antipodean?