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Old Feb 2nd 2011, 11:52 am
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I want a small, cheap, second-hand boat for fishing, island-hopping and chilling. The plan is to do this on a tight budget—I've identified a couple of 17ft examples with around a 140hp 2-stroke outboard. However, I'm a complete newbie re boats. Assuming I keep the thing on a trailer on my driveway, what expenses am I looking at for things like insurance, registration, maintenance and the like?

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I want a small, cheap, second-hand boat for fishing, island-hopping and chilling. The plan is to do this on a tight budget—I've identified a couple of 17ft examples with around a 140hp 2-stroke outboard. However, I'm a complete newbie re boats. Assuming I keep the thing on a trailer on my driveway, what expenses am I looking at for things like insurance, registration, maintenance and the like?

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Mate,

I know a lad who runs boat trips - not on teh same tip but he has an ex police launch boat and he's going to take us out fishing.

6-10am, holds 10 of us and they supply all fishing gear, bait, tackle etc etc - you just turn up with booze and off you go.

Sounds a good 'un.
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Default Re: Boat for a Tight Landlubber

Originally Posted by Spugsy View Post
Mate,
I know a lad who runs boat trips - not on teh same tip but he has an ex police launch boat and he's going to take us out fishing. 6-10am, holds 10 of us and they supply all fishing gear, bait, tackle etc etc - you just turn up with booze and off you go. Sounds a good 'un.
Make sure you carry your alcohol on-board-ship licence because you know damned well that the Police will be after you, Spugsy.
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Old Feb 2nd 2011, 1:55 pm
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They were on about licencing the trailers for boat towing as well, so you need to look at that. So you have an RYA powerboat licence? Although it's not enforced they will do it at some point.
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Old Feb 2nd 2011, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by JulesinDXB View Post
So you have an RYA powerboat licence? Although it's not enforced they will do it at some point.
For 140hp? No, I don't. Do I really need one? If so, how do I get?
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You have to do a course with one of the registered centres. Not necessary right now, but useful.
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Default Re: Boat for a Tight Landlubber

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
For 140hp? No, I don't. Do I really need one? If so, how do I get?
You don't need a licence for a small recreational/fishing boat.

Assuming you are in Dubai, then:

Insurance:
Insurance will be around AED2,500 to AED4,000 for hull and public liability. May be higher as you say you do not have experience.

Launching
There are several free slips to launch your boat (e.g., at 25.151908, +55.197490‎ (+25° 9' 6.87", +55° 11' 50.96") on Jumeira Road Beach. You may have to give a few dirhams to your local helpers. You can also get petrol there and possibly an area to store your boat and trailer (for a fee).

Registration
On the Road to Maritime Island RTA building at 25 degrees 15'17.41" N and 55 degrees 16'36.77"E - about AED 400. BUT, first check if you have to fit a compulsory transponder - cost is a deposit of AED7,000 which you will get back. Check to see if the boat already has a transponder (though unlikely as the requirement has just come in).

Trailer
You won't get a wet berth in the marinas (too expensive (AED 15,000 to AED24,000 per annum) plus they do not allow boats with 2-stroke engines. Trailering on your own drive is fine, but the authorities are stopping people parking trailored boats on the street outside their homes.

Boat Inspection
The boat may have to be inspected before getting it registered ( e.g., for compliance with safety, such as flares, lifejackets, torch etc).

Good luck. Remember you need a fishing licence (still free, I think) plus a marina or other authority (with a fax machine) to get your coastguard clearance - just go out on your boat !

The red tape is annoying
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Default Re: Boat for a Tight Landlubber

Or come to RAK and just pay reg every year

They are introducing the transponder here too but no insurance needed, no license needed, the RAKSA sailing club doesn't charge for mooring if you're a member (800AED a year I think) and the beer is so cheap it may as well be free

http://www.dubaifaqs.com/rak-sailing-club.php
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Thanks all, especiall MacScot. Actually I'm in Abu Dhabi--I guess much the same as in Dubai?
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Thanks all, especiall MacScot. Actually I'm in Abu Dhabi--I guess much the same as in Dubai?
pretty much - an ex colleague has a boat here and I remember him running similar costs by me when I was considering one.

The problem in AD though is an absolute dearth of free or near launching places.

There is one at the port end of the Corniche but you'll need to make sure that your car has a good handbreak as it is very steep - many a car has been pulled in by the boat on the back. Mini and I used to enjoy watching people trying to launch from there...!
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
Thanks all, especiall MacScot. Actually I'm in Abu Dhabi--I guess much the same as in Dubai?
Actually, when you mentioned "island hopping" I should have realised it was Abu Dhabi. Procedures in AD will be similar...best to chat to one of the staff at one of the local marinas in AD to get the low down on registration procedures and other costs in the Emirate.
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Default Re: Boat for a Tight Landlubber

Is there a good place in Dubai to do some kind of introductory course to boating for a complete novice? It would be good to learn enough to be able to rent a boat for a day's fishing / pottering about every once in a while.
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Is there a good place in Dubai to do some kind of introductory course to boating for a complete novice? It would be good to learn enough to be able to rent a boat for a day's fishing / pottering about every once in a while.
I was thinking along the lines of: tow boat to somewhere where there are some ethnics who could help me get it in and out of the water for a few beer vouchers, install crumpet and beer, start engine, push handle thingy forward and get the hang of steering, head for an island or two, fish a bit, swim a bit, drink a bit, head back... Now, what's the mnemonic for remembering port and starboard?
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
I was thinking along the lines of: tow boat to somewhere where there are some ethnics who could help me get it in and out of the water for a few beer vouchers, install crumpet and beer, start engine, push handle thingy forward and get the hang of steering, head for an island or two, fish a bit, swim a bit, drink a bit, head back... Now, what's the mnemonic for remembering port and starboard?
Port = Pissed
Starboard = Sozzled

Obviously, sozzled starts with an 'S' and has more letters in it as does starboard...

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Originally Posted by miuser2 View Post
Is there a good place in Dubai to do some kind of introductory course to boating for a complete novice? It would be good to learn enough to be able to rent a boat for a day's fishing / pottering about every once in a while.
Both the Dubai Offshore Sailig Club and JPS Marine do the RYA Powerboat 1 & 2 courses, which covers the basics.
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