"A blow to the head cannot cause death"
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This just in from Reuters.......
18:02 15Jun08 RTRS-Saudi lawyer to appeal in morals squad death case
RIYADH, June 15 (Reuters) - A Saudi lawyer said on Sunday he
had filed an appeal against two members of the religious police
over the death of a Saudi man last year.
A court last November acquitted two employees of the
Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice of
killing Salman al-Huraisy last year after the morality squad
raided his home and seized some alcohol.
The same court this month upheld the ruling but the case
will go to appeal, said Abdul-Rahman al-Lahem, a leading human
rights lawyer.
In a statement sent to Reuters, Lahem said the appeal, filed
on June 4, would rest on the United Nations Convention Against
Torture, signed by Saudi Arabia in 1997.
He also questioned the reasoning used by the judges in their
definition of murder, which was based on their reading of
Islamic sharia law.
"The verdict was based on the jurisprudential argument that
(a blow to) the head cannot cause death and that the hand is not
an instrument that can cause death, therefore it cannot be
premeditated murder,"
he wrote in a statement.
Some of Huraisy's family say they saw him badly beaten by
two men and an autopsy report said severe head injuries were the
cause of death.
The religious police have wide powers to search for alcohol,
drugs and prostitution, ensure shops are closed during prayer
and maintain a strict system of sexual segregation in Saudi
society that even bans women from driving.
Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state where clerics, who control
the justice system, apply an austere version of mainstream Sunni
Islamic law. King Abdullah has ordered a revamp of the courts
system but religious scholars will remain in charge. (Reporting by Andrew Hammond)
(([email protected], +966 1 463 2603; Reuters
Messaging: [email protected]))
Keywords: SAUDI MURDER/
18:02 15Jun08 RTRS-Saudi lawyer to appeal in morals squad death case
RIYADH, June 15 (Reuters) - A Saudi lawyer said on Sunday he
had filed an appeal against two members of the religious police
over the death of a Saudi man last year.
A court last November acquitted two employees of the
Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice of
killing Salman al-Huraisy last year after the morality squad
raided his home and seized some alcohol.
The same court this month upheld the ruling but the case
will go to appeal, said Abdul-Rahman al-Lahem, a leading human
rights lawyer.
In a statement sent to Reuters, Lahem said the appeal, filed
on June 4, would rest on the United Nations Convention Against
Torture, signed by Saudi Arabia in 1997.
He also questioned the reasoning used by the judges in their
definition of murder, which was based on their reading of
Islamic sharia law.
"The verdict was based on the jurisprudential argument that
(a blow to) the head cannot cause death and that the hand is not
an instrument that can cause death, therefore it cannot be
premeditated murder,"
he wrote in a statement. Some of Huraisy's family say they saw him badly beaten by
two men and an autopsy report said severe head injuries were the
cause of death.
The religious police have wide powers to search for alcohol,
drugs and prostitution, ensure shops are closed during prayer
and maintain a strict system of sexual segregation in Saudi
society that even bans women from driving.
Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state where clerics, who control
the justice system, apply an austere version of mainstream Sunni
Islamic law. King Abdullah has ordered a revamp of the courts
system but religious scholars will remain in charge. (Reporting by Andrew Hammond)
(([email protected], +966 1 463 2603; Reuters
Messaging: [email protected]))
Keywords: SAUDI MURDER/
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beardman......your synopsis?
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I'm going to bang my head off the wall. It won't harm me in any way, shape or form.
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Selective reading, guys.....
'a blow to the head with the hands cannto cause death'
I think we can agree with that?
They decided it was not a pre-meditated murder, but they reckoned it was second-degree or manslaughter or something...
Sounds about right to me...?
'a blow to the head with the hands cannto cause death'
I think we can agree with that?
They decided it was not a pre-meditated murder, but they reckoned it was second-degree or manslaughter or something...
Sounds about right to me...?
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Why don't you look at what the statement ACTUALLY says?
"(a blow to) the head cannot cause death and that the hand is not
an instrument that can cause death, therefore it cannot be
premeditated murder"
Not selective at all - the AND is key in separating the two. It says what it says, and it is utter crap.
"(a blow to) the head cannot cause death and that the hand is not
an instrument that can cause death, therefore it cannot be
premeditated murder"
Not selective at all - the AND is key in separating the two. It says what it says, and it is utter crap.
Last edited by littlejimmy; Jun 16th 2008 at 7:59 pm.
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'a blow to the head with the hands cannto cause death'
I think we can agree with that?
I think we can agree with that?
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A punch to the head risks causing serious injury or death. Therefore is murder not manslaughter.




