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BBC get something right for a change
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Well you are the "Inselaffen". Maybe they used a clip of one of your relatives by mistake !
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12076749)
Well you are the "Inselaffen". Maybe they used a clip of one of your relatives by mistake !
But no, with that one single post I now get you... good work |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
I am teetotal. No booze for me ! I did a lot of that in my youth but then saw the folly of strong drink !
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12077344)
I am teetotal. No booze for me ! I did a lot of that in my youth but then saw the folly of strong drink !
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Your logic is beyond me.
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Hilarious from the BBC.
She is a funny one. I honestly can see no benefit for anyone with Scotland going for independence again. These referendum should be generational, not every 5 years. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12077864)
Hilarious from the BBC.
She is a funny one. I honestly can see no benefit for anyone with Scotland going for independence again. These referendum should be generational, not every 5 years. In the last days before the next Gen election, the Tories promise everyone the earth. Tories win. In the days, weeks and months after, it becomes obvious that the Tories cannot deliver. In the UK, you can either wait till the net Gen Election to get rid of them, or call for a vote of no confidence (Interestingly enough, the tactic used by the Tories in '79 to get Maggie into power!!).The point is, the UK gets to decide who governs it in a couple of different ways, most often a vote held every four or so years. Scotland just had a vote to determine not only who governs it, but how it is perceived in a Global perspective. A far more wide-ranging and important vote than a GE. One from where, if Independence is chosen, there is no going back from (Thank God!!). If the Unionist parties are found wanting in producing on their 'vows' to the Scottish people, then, yes, re-run the referendum. If Cameron et al. had told us before the vote that there were some serious caveats that were not made clear in the original vow, as they did in the weeks after the vote, can we honestly say that people had a clear picture of what they got either way? |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12078564)
No benefit for the rest of the UK, that is for sure.. I posted the below last year and, if anything, it is even more correct than it was then. Last time it was just the vow of more powers that was a sham. Now, its a strong economy and full EU membership that has been eroded...
In the last days before the next Gen election, the Tories promise everyone the earth. Tories win. In the days, weeks and months after, it becomes obvious that the Tories cannot deliver. In the UK, you can either wait till the net Gen Election to get rid of them, or call for a vote of no confidence (Interestingly enough, the tactic used by the Tories in '79 to get Maggie into power!!).The point is, the UK gets to decide who governs it in a couple of different ways, most often a vote held every four or so years. Scotland just had a vote to determine not only who governs it, but how it is perceived in a Global perspective. A far more wide-ranging and important vote than a GE. One from where, if Independence is chosen, there is no going back from (Thank God!!). If the Unionist parties are found wanting in producing on their 'vows' to the Scottish people, then, yes, re-run the referendum. If Cameron et al. had told us before the vote that there were some serious caveats that were not made clear in the original vow, as they did in the weeks after the vote, can we honestly say that people had a clear picture of what they got either way? Incidentally, what promises have been broken? Or have some just not come through yet? What has gone through that was promised? |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Scotland wouldn't last a week without England paying for it. That little troll needs to be taken out. And i don't mean to the cinema.
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Quite why it was only scotland could vote on them leaving, and not England, Wales and NI is beyond me, surely it would effect every person living in the Union.
Maybe if it was a UK wide vote we'd have voted to kick the miserable stingy twats out. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
If I could, I would vote for Scotland to remain part of the Union, but I doubt I can (even though I have a Scottish Father).
Anyway, I think it's a really dangerous time. Scotland voting again may not play well for the UK's negotiations for Brexit. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12078576)
If I could, I would vote for Scotland to remain part of the Union, but I doubt I can (even though I have a Scottish Father).
Anyway, I think it's a really dangerous time. Scotland voting again may not play well for the UK's negotiations for Brexit. It was a shame, they don't deserve another referendum. I read the other day that the SNP are spending way over there budget, with out England's cash they'd be bankrupt quicker than Greece. PS Oil and Gas is low. You have nothing to sell or offer the world. Shut up and and just eat your haggis. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12077847)
Go Fish....
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Polling isn't showing support for either another referendum or independence.
Latest one the other day showed 37% pro independence, 49% anti independence. Another poll eliminating the undecided was 45% pro, 55% anti, exactly the same as the outcome. Sturgeon won't risk another referendum if she knows she can't win it.
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12078576)
If I could, I would vote for Scotland to remain part of the Union, but I doubt I can (even though I have a Scottish Father).
Anyway, I think it's a really dangerous time. Scotland voting again may not play well for the UK's negotiations for Brexit. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
(Post 12078585)
Polling isn't showing support for either another referendum or independence.
Latest one the other day showed 37% pro independence, 49% anti independence. Another poll eliminating the undecided was 45% pro, 55% anti, exactly the same as the outcome. Sturgeon won't risk another referendum if she knows she can't win it. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12078575)
Quite why it was only scotland could vote on them leaving, and not England, Wales and NI is beyond me, surely it would effect every person living in the Union.
Maybe if it was a UK wide vote we'd have voted to kick the miserable stingy twats out. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by iggle
(Post 12078579)
A pole in Scotland could vote, but a Scot in Corby could not.
It was a shame, they don't deserve another referendum. I read the other day that the SNP are spending way over there budget, with out England's cash they'd be bankrupt quicker than Greece. PS Oil and Gas is low. You have nothing to sell or offer the world. Shut up and and just eat your haggis. Again, cockwomble... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 12078582)
caught one or 2 big ones ;)
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by iggle
(Post 12078579)
A pole in Scotland could vote, but a Scot in Corby could not.
The way the SNP are banging on about another vote is getting to be truly boring now. The percentages are similar now as they were at the time of the vote and by concentrating on another referendum they are ignoring all the responsibilities they actually do have. What was it last year, a 16Bn GBP deficit? They were so far out with their O&G prediction it was laughable, wasn't it something like 0.75% of what they estimated? All this SNP bollocks does it splits the country even more. The damage is truly shocking. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by jam25mack
(Post 12078652)
Also, Scots serving with the Military overseas wasn't allowed to vote either as the SNP knew that the 'family vibe' of the British Military would hit their percentage further.
The way the SNP are banging on about another vote is getting to be truly boring now. The percentages are similar now as they were at the time of the vote and by concentrating on another referendum they are ignoring all the responsibilities they actually do have. What was it last year, a 16Bn GBP deficit? They were so far out with their O&G prediction it was laughable, wasn't it something like 0.75% of what they estimated? All this SNP bollocks does it splits the country even more. The damage is truly shocking. That being said, my Dad said his heart always would vote for independence but had he been able to vote it would have likely gone with his head to remain part of the UK. I understand the mentality of just under half the voters to want to go it alone, but I didn't and don't agree with the reasons for it being sustainable, sensible or that wise. Still, I know it created some great debate on here for example with lots of different opinions which is great. But thankfully the last referendum was so recent that I can't imagine the next happening for many years to come. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12078698)
Personally, I see it as a real shame that it's a potential division at a time when the UK is suffering enough and potentially going to suffer further through the Brexit negotiations and after.
That being said, my Dad said his heart always would vote for independence but had he been able to vote it would have likely gone with his head to remain part of the UK. I understand the mentality of just under half the voters to want to go it alone, but I didn't and don't agree with the reasons for it being sustainable, sensible or that wise. Still, I know it created some great debate on here for example with lots of different opinions which is great. But thankfully the last referendum was so recent that I can't imagine the next happening for many years to come. I hope you are right that we won't see another referendum for a decent period (as signed off under the SNP), and to be honest I think the results would be the same, if not even more towards the NO vote, however, someone needs to kick that little dwarf women into line. Hopefully May will be just that woman to do the kicking. We all know women are the most devious! |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
When May met the dwarf for the first time in Hollyrood, the dwarf refused to walk down the steps to greet her.
That says a lot about the dwarf. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12079396)
When May met the dwarf for the first time in Hollyrood, the dwarf refused to walk down the steps to greet her.
That says a lot about the dwarf. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12079396)
When May met the dwarf for the first time in Hollyrood, the dwarf refused to walk down the steps to greet her.
That says a lot about the dwarf. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12079505)
And why the f*** would Sturgeon go down the steps to meet her?
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by iggle
(Post 12079514)
It's polite.
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Originally Posted by iggle
(Post 12079514)
It's polite.
Originally Posted by jam25mack
(Post 12079532)
And respectful considering May is the leader of the UK (of which Scotland is a part of).....
Sturgeon met May in precisely the same spot as she met Cameron after the Tory victory. No-one claimed she was rude or impolite then... Shit stirring for shit stirrings sake.. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12079536)
She waited on the stoop in the pouring rain..
Sturgeon met May in precisely the same spot as she met Cameron after the Tory victory. No-one claimed she was rude or impolite then... Shit stirring for shit stirrings sake.. |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 12079570)
if it was Jean Claude Juncker she was receiving she would have rushed down to the bottom and kissed his arse as he mounted each step :whistle:
Also, Juncker would be far more welcome than May... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12079576)
Well, thats how they do in Europe, isnt it?
Also, Juncker would be far more welcome than May... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by iggle
(Post 12079590)
Troll
Cockwomble.... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12079591)
Says the guy with a 1/5th less posts than me....:rofl:
Cockwomble.... Prick! |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by iggle
(Post 12079610)
quality not quantity :p
Prick! |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Who are these two bellends
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Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12079591)
Says the guy with a 1/5th less posts than me....:rofl:
Cockwomble.... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 12079641)
Are you making new friends again Sexpest?
Live by the sword, be prepared to die by it also... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12079576)
Well, thats how they do in Europe, isnt it?
Also, Juncker would be far more welcome than May... |
Re: BBC get something right for a change
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12080211)
Why do you hate the English, who props up your economy, so much?
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