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Old Dec 12th 2011, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by iamthestig
I wish they wouldn't keep referring to KSA a "ultra-conservative", as the definition of conservative includes "conventional in style, tending to be moderate"...

Chopping off heads for witchcraft or apostasy is hardly conventional or moderate, ultra-intolerant or ultra-inhuman would be a better epithet.

True. Or make it really simple and just call them barbaric.
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Old Dec 12th 2011, 12:39 pm
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I wish they wouldn't keep referring to KSA a "ultra-conservative", as the definition of conservative includes "conventional in style, tending to be moderate"...

Chopping off heads for witchcraft or apostasy is hardly conventional or moderate, ultra-intolerant or ultra-inhuman would be a better epithet.
You're right- it highlights the tricky nature of the prefix ultra which is now commonly misused in place of very, when its meaning is closer to beyond.
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Default Re: Australian on Hajj pilgrimage , to receive 500 lashes in Saudi.

Originally Posted by iamthestig
I wish they wouldn't keep referring to KSA a "ultra-conservative", as the definition of conservative includes "conventional in style, tending to be moderate"...

Chopping off heads for witchcraft or apostasy is hardly conventional or moderate, ultra-intolerant or ultra-inhuman would be a better epithet.


Just sayin..
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Originally Posted by iamthestig
I wish they wouldn't keep referring to KSA a "ultra-conservative", as the definition of conservative includes "conventional in style, tending to be moderate"...

Chopping off heads for witchcraft or apostasy is hardly conventional or moderate, ultra-intolerant or ultra-inhuman would be a better epithet.
Indeed...the only way we can apply conservative to the Saudis is by stating they are conservative by 13th Century Europe's standards.

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Old Dec 13th 2011, 12:11 am
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Indeed...the only way we can apply conservative to the Saudis is by stating they are conservative by 13th Century Europe's standards.

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Old Dec 13th 2011, 12:19 am
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Indeed...the only way we can apply conservative to the Saudis is by stating they are conservative by 13th Century Europe's standards.

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I think thats far too kind, they would be conservative by Iron Age standards. Even many millenia ago, most cultures didn't wrap their women in a mobile prison.
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I think thats far too kind, they would be conservative by Iron Age standards. Even many millenia ago, most cultures didn't wrap their women in a mobile prison.
Further evidence that regardless of where people are in their timeline of progress all cultures are not of equal value...

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Brit Radio 1 DJ grooverider imprisoned in Dubai for 4 years over £10 worth weed in his pockets. The chap says he just forgot it was there.

4 bloody years for 2.1 grams of weed. Were Dubai authorities scared that he was gona corrupt innocent Emiratis with such an insignificant amount?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ge-784400.html

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Earlier this month, Keith Brown, a 43-year-old youth worker from the West Midlands, was jailed for four years after customs officials who stopped him on his way through Dubai airport found a speck of cannabis weighing 0.003g – invisible to the naked eye and lighter than a grain of sugar – on the bottom of his shoe.
Bert Tatham, a Canadian UN official who advised the Afghanistan government on opium production, was jailed last year for carrying 0.5g of hashish – a form of cannabis – and two poppy seeds. He was later pardoned and deported to Canada.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
Brit Radio 1 DJ grooverider imprisoned in Dubai for 4 years over £10 worth weed in his pockets. The chap says he just forgot it was there.

4 bloody years for 2.1 grams of weed. Were Dubai authorities scared that he was gona corrupt innocent Emiratis with such an insignificant amount?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ge-784400.html

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Grooverider been out for a while. Got pardoned at first ramadam. still did a nine month stretch I think
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
Earlier this month, Keith Brown, a 43-year-old youth worker from the West Midlands, was jailed for four years after customs officials who stopped him on his way through Dubai airport found a speck of cannabis weighing 0.003g – invisible to the naked eye and lighter than a grain of sugar – on the bottom of his shoe.
That's outrageous, four f*****g years in the slammer for treading on someone's discarded joint before stepping on the plane?

Hang on a minute, this story is from 2008, and Keith Brown is a Rastafarian, who was on his way back from Ethiopia, and the Dubai authorities can also check urine samples... And the Independent story was lifted from the Daily Mail, two weeks earlier.

I think I get the picture now, The Mail probably ignored other evidence that convicted this guy, to sensationalise the story, as they have done since the paper was a staunch supporter of Hitler and Mosely's black shirts.
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Default Re: Australian on Hajj pilgrimage , to receive 500 lashes in Saudi.

Originally Posted by iamthestig
That's outrageous, four f*****g years in the slammer for treading on someone's discarded joint before stepping on the plane?

Hang on a minute, this story is from 2008, and Keith Brown is a Rastafarian, who was on his way back from Ethiopia, and the Dubai authorities can also check urine samples... And the Independent story was lifted from the Daily Mail, two weeks earlier.

I think I get the picture now, The Mail probably ignored other evidence that convicted this guy, to sensationalise the story, as they have done since the paper was a staunch supporter of Hitler and Mosely's black shirts.
Thanks for the update.
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