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Millhouse Apr 13th 2016 12:56 pm

Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 
A recent poll spanning 16 nations across the Middle East and North Africa has found that most young Arabs are against the so-called Islamic State and believe it will ultimately fail to establish a caliphate. The 2016 Arab Youth Survey revealed that 77 percent of Arabs aged 18 to 24 are concerned about the terror group’s rise with 50 percent considering it the biggest obstacle facing the Middle East. Only 13 percent of young Arabs feel they could support the group, even if it was less violent.

I was a bit concerned when I heard the 13% to be honest...

https://d28wbuch0jlv7v.cloudfront.ne...ic_state_n.jpg

Bahtatboy Apr 13th 2016 1:23 pm

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 
Only 13 percent of young Arabs feel they could support the group, even if it was less violent.

I was a bit concerned when I heard the 13% to be honest...


Don't worry, that's only 4.5 million people.

Meow Apr 13th 2016 1:45 pm

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 
If I am reading that right, for 24% the reason for joining a group that likes to go round is killing and bombing is a lack of jobs and opportunities? WTAF? Are they trying to create vacancies?

*mind boggling*

Bahtatboy Apr 13th 2016 1:53 pm

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 11921881)
If I am reading that right, for 24% the reason for joining a group that likes to go round is killing and bombing is a lack of jobs and opportunities? WTAF? Are they trying to create vacancies?

*mind boggling*

In a similar vein Saudi have been shit scared about this for a long time.

scrubbedexpat141 Apr 14th 2016 4:25 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 11921881)
If I am reading that right, for 24% the reason for joining a group that likes to go round is killing and bombing is a lack of jobs and opportunities? WTAF? Are they trying to create vacancies?

*mind boggling*

You don't think there is a sense of entitlement do you? :huh::huh::huh:

Bahtatboy Apr 14th 2016 6:31 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11922553)
You don't think there is a sense of entitlement do you? :huh::huh::huh:

I know it's not what you mean, but all citizens are entitled to expect their governments to do the best to maximise their job opportunities. When you consider the degree of corruption in so many third-world countries it's little wonder that those most affected -- young males -- seek ways of venting their anger and frustration. Doesn't justify Daesh, of course, but many governments / dictators are a major cause of radicalisation. The other major cause is brainwashing from birth.

Millhouse Apr 14th 2016 6:57 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 11921881)
If I am reading that right, for 24% the reason for joining a group that likes to go round is killing and bombing is a lack of jobs and opportunities? WTAF? Are they trying to create vacancies?

*mind boggling*

You read it correctly.

It's not an uncommon link, even in Northern Ireland a large driver of the peace process was a housing boom that kept the trouble makers busy flipping houses.

scrubbedexpat141 Apr 14th 2016 7:41 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 11922592)
I know it's not what you mean, but all citizens are entitled to expect their governments to do the best to maximise their job opportunities. When you consider the degree of corruption in so many third-world countries it's little wonder that those most affected -- young males -- seek ways of venting their anger and frustration. Doesn't justify Daesh, of course, but many governments / dictators are a major cause of radicalisation. The other major cause is brainwashing from birth.

I see what you mean and don't think you're wrong.

However...there are places where citizens have much less than perhaps those considered here. Fewer opportunities, less government support and less 'career' paths to follow....yet don't see terrorism as an actual alternative. It sounds like a really immature threat; 'if you don't find me work then I might be a terrorist'.

jam25mack Apr 14th 2016 7:51 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11922635)
'if you don't find me work then I might be a terrorist'.

Wonder if it works in other situations....

In a club at a busy bar .... if you don't serve me next then I might become a terrorist.....

When chatting to a chick .... if you don't give me your number then I might become a terrorist.....

When the taxi driver is being a dick .... if you don't take me to the marina then I might become a terrorist.....

So many possibilities...

Bahtatboy Apr 14th 2016 8:06 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 11922614)
There are many far poorer and less fortunate parts of the world though that don't have any significant problems with terrorism and the rise of bloody theocratic states who despite constantly declaring they are based on the historical Caliphate are viewed as being 'corrupt' or 'disadvantaged'.

N.


Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11922635)
I see what you mean and don't think you're wrong.

However...there are places where citizens have much less than perhaps those considered here. Fewer opportunities, less government support and less 'career' paths to follow....yet don't see terrorism as an actual alternative. It sounds like a really immature threat; 'if you don't find me work then I might be a terrorist'.

Maybe I should have emphasised more my final sentence?

scrubbedexpat141 Apr 14th 2016 8:16 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 11922651)
Maybe I should have emphasised more my final sentence?

Hahahah.

Well, because you didn't I'm now a terrorist. Well done. Your fault. :nod:

Meow Apr 14th 2016 9:29 am

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11922553)
You don't think there is a sense of entitlement do you? :huh::huh::huh:

I simply cannot imagine where you got that idea? ;)

Bahtatboy Apr 14th 2016 1:45 pm

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 11922812)
If you do I will accuse you of being racist :rofl:

N.

You could start with this odious woman first:

KATIE HOPKINS: What do British Muslims Really Think? Now we know. And it’s terrifying | Daily Mail Online

Meow Apr 17th 2016 12:01 pm

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 
Everyone would be happier if they avoided the Daily Mail altogether.

Millhouse Apr 17th 2016 12:48 pm

Re: Arab Youth Survey - joining Daesh
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 11925156)
Everyone would be happier if they avoided the Daily Mail altogether.

I wouldnt be.


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