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chris955 Jan 19th 2013 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10493439)
"Americans - strange people - but very polite!"

The corollary must be :

"English - strange people - and very rude !"
Why :confused:

dunroving Jan 19th 2013 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10493439)
"Americans - strange people - but very polite!"

The corollary must be :

"English - strange people - and very rude !"
Logic would indicate the corollary would be "normal people - but very rude", surely?

Lothianlad Jan 19th 2013 11:32 pm
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10494231)
Why :confused:
In a word: Anglophobia

As a Scot I can truly say that some of my best mates are English and none of them are anything like "rude" in any way at all. I think the word "rude" needs interpretation in the context of that Anglophobic post. I have met a fair number of American tourists here in the UK both in Scotland and down in England and almost all of them commented on how "friendly and approachably amenable and polite" were most of the people they had met here.

dunroving Jan 19th 2013 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 10494555)
In a word: Anglophobia

As a Scot I can truly say that some of my best mates are English and none of them are anything like "rude" in any way at all. I think the word "rude" needs interpretation in the context of that Anglophobic post. I have met a fair number of American tourists here in the UK both in Scotland and down in England and almost all of them commented on how "friendly and approachably amenable and polite" were most of the people they had met here.
I assumed Scot47 was just attempting humour by pointing out what the converse would be, rather than actually saying the English are rude ... maybe I was being too charitable in my assumptions. :confused:

I think the experience of tourists is probably quite valid in and of itself (I believe your encounters with tourists are probably repersentative of a typical tourist's experience in the UK), but it doesn't necessarily represent the experience of the same people if they came to live here. The places they go, people they meet and situations they encounter as tourists would be different than what they experience as residents, especially in some areas of the UK. (Same is true of any country, of course)

Derrygal Jan 20th 2013 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10494569)
I assumed Scot47 was just attempting humour by pointing out what the converse would be, rather than actually saying the English are rude ... maybe I was being too charitable in my assumptions. :confused:

I think the experience of tourists is probably quite valid in and of itself (I believe your encounters with tourists are probably repersentative of a typical tourist's experience in the UK), but it doesn't necessarily represent the experience of the same people if they came to live here. The places they go, people they meet and situations they encounter as tourists would be different than what they experience as residents, especially in some areas of the UK. (Same is true of any country, of course)
My two (American) sons-in-law have been to the UK and loved it - they found the people to be polite, friendly and helpful - they like the fact that it was a slower pace of life and more vacation time than here in the US. Now - if only I could persuade them to move there!! I would be all set. My youngest son-in-law did consider it about a year ago and was actually looking into the "spouse visa" but then decided that financially they could not do it - worrying about not being able to find a job, much higher house prices, etc. However they loved the UK and are looking forward to their next trip back there in a couple of years. Maybe, it would be different if they moved there to live - I don't know. I am sure many Brits fall in love with the US when they come here on vacation - they don't know what it is really like here - the work, work, work mentality, few vacation days, guns, etc. Visiting a country is very different from living there. That said - I would move back to the UK tomorrow if I could.

dunroving Jan 20th 2013 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by Derrygal (Post 10494641)
My two (American) sons-in-law have been to the UK and loved it - they found the people to be polite, friendly and helpful - they like the fact that it was a slower pace of life and more vacation time than here in the US. Now - if only I could persuade them to move there!! I would be all set. My youngest son-in-law did consider it about a year ago and was actually looking into the "spouse visa" but then decided that financially they could not do it - worrying about not being able to find a job, much higher house prices, etc. However they loved the UK and are looking forward to their next trip back there in a couple of years. Maybe, it would be different if they moved there to live - I don't know. I am sure many Brits fall in love with the US when they come here on vacation - they don't know what it is really like here - the work, work, work mentality, few vacation days, guns, etc. Visiting a country is very different from living there. That said - I would move back to the UK tomorrow if I could.
I think UK house prices must be a big mental and cultural barrier to almost anyone thinking about coming here from the US. The only exceptions I can think of, expat-wise, are those who owned a house before they left or are wealthy enough that it doesn't matter.

I was quite stressed financially when I first came back because (a) the size of house and yard, and the "crowded" feel of British streets was so different from the US, and (b) my monthly mortgage payment was just silly, for a bog standard ex-council house.

I think you do eventually get used to the "smaller inside and out" issue (except when I see programs on TV that show typical US houses and I pine for my nice back yard in a spacious neighborhood). In some ways you even appreciate it (easier to take care of, warmer in winter, more manageable garden - and more interesting things to grow, with NO WATERING NECESSARY (yeehaw!). :eek:

But I also realised that my salary was a bit higher and through nearly 7 years of brutal saving (no toys, no holidays, no splashing out on anything), I now have enough to pay off a substantial portion of my outstanding mortgage.

Additionally, the welfare state in all its shapes and sizes means of course that you are financially much more secure - what good is a nice US house if you bankrupt yourself by getting a serious illness, for example? And no time off work to enjoy your home?

I'm sure with the right information you can persuade your S-I-L's to move here! :fingerscrossed:

Kilty Jan 20th 2013 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10493439)
"Americans - strange people - but very polite!"

The corollary must be :

"English - strange people - and very rude !"

"Scots - we arra people - and we'll stick the heid on you if you disagree"

picaflor Jan 20th 2013 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10494690)
I think UK house prices must be a big mental and cultural barrier to almost anyone thinking about coming here from the US. The only exceptions I can think of, expat-wise, are those who owned a house before they left or are wealthy enough that it doesn't matter.

I was quite stressed financially when I first came back because (a) the size of house and yard, and the "crowded" feel of British streets was so different from the US, and (b) my monthly mortgage payment was just silly, for a bog standard ex-council house.

I think you do eventually get used to the "smaller inside and out" issue (except when I see programs on TV that show typical US houses and I pine for my nice back yard in a spacious neighborhood). In some ways you even appreciate it (easier to take care of, warmer in winter, more manageable garden - and more interesting things to grow, with NO WATERING NECESSARY (yeehaw!). :eek:

But I also realised that my salary was a bit higher and through nearly 7 years of brutal saving (no toys, no holidays, no splashing out on anything), I now have enough to pay off a substantial portion of my outstanding mortgage.

Additionally, the welfare state in all its shapes and sizes means of course that you are financially much more secure - what good is a nice US house if you bankrupt yourself by getting a serious illness, for example? And no time off work to enjoy your home?

I'm sure with the right information you can persuade your S-I-L's to move here! :fingerscrossed:
Hit the nail on the head, again... I do find your posts to be very thoughtful and with good logic.

Perth Jan 20th 2013 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10494690)
I think UK house prices must be a big mental and cultural barrier to almost anyone thinking about coming here from the US. The only exceptions I can think of, expat-wise, are those who owned a house before they left or are wealthy enough that it doesn't matter.

I was quite stressed financially when I first came back because (a) the size of house and yard, and the "crowded" feel of British streets was so different from the US, and (b) my monthly mortgage payment was just silly, for a bog standard ex-council house.

I think you do eventually get used to the "smaller inside and out" issue (except when I see programs on TV that show typical US houses and I pine for my nice back yard in a spacious neighborhood). In some ways you even appreciate it (easier to take care of, warmer in winter, more manageable garden - and more interesting things to grow, with NO WATERING NECESSARY (yeehaw!). :eek:

But I also realised that my salary was a bit higher and through nearly 7 years of brutal saving (no toys, no holidays, no splashing out on anything), I now have enough to pay off a substantial portion of my outstanding mortgage.

Additionally, the welfare state in all its shapes and sizes means of course that you are financially much more secure - what good is a nice US house if you bankrupt yourself by getting a serious illness, for example? And no time off work to enjoy your home?

I'm sure with the right information you can persuade your S-I-L's to move here! :fingerscrossed:
Haha, you have reminded me of another advantage in returning...no big lawn to water OR mow! We do grow veggies now, but they have to be in earth boxes as the soil is too sandy here, and inside our pool screen so we don't have to spray for bugs!

scot47 Jan 21st 2013 9:20 am
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"Watering the Garden" Here in Scotland we have made arrangements with the Big Man Upstairs. He waters our place every day !

scot47 Jan 21st 2013 11:22 am
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I posted

"Americans - strange people - but very polite!"

The corollary must be :

"English - strange people - and very rude !"

What I was trying to get over is that if English think Americans are polite, then the logic is that the English must seem rude in comparison.

Any whiff of criticism and I am accused of Anglophobia. I do not discriminate. I hate EVERYONE !:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

brits1 Jan 21st 2013 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by perthhomeschool (Post 10495577)
Haha, you have reminded me of another advantage in returning...no big lawn to water OR mow! We do grow veggies now, but they have to be in earth boxes as the soil is too sandy here, and inside our pool screen so we don't have to spray for bugs!
No kidding, last night a thought just popped into my head "well at least I never have a problem with my lawn or flowers here" and it brought back memories of the retic and all the water granules we had to buy etc and no matter what potting mix we used most of our plants either kicked the bucket or just withered on for months in the heat lol..our next door neighbours had really green lawns (same grass as ours) then during the night I heard their retics come on (and not on their designated day) and for quite a while...hence their green lawns etc lol..

dunroving Jan 21st 2013 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 10498213)
No kidding, last night a thought just popped into my head "well at least I never have a problem with my lawn or flowers here" and it brought back memories of the retic and all the water granules we had to buy etc and no matter what potting mix we used most of our plants either kicked the bucket or just withered on for months in the heat lol..our next door neighbours had really green lawns (same grass as ours) then during the night I heard their retics come on (and not on their designated day) and for quite a while...hence their green lawns etc lol..
Is a "retic" a garden sprinkler?

I never could afford a sprinkler system and any time I left on a trip for more than a few days I'd be worried all those plants I had spent good money on would be all shrivelled up when I got back. In the height of the summer it wouldn't take long without manual watering for them to kick the bucket. :thumbdown:

chris955 Jan 22nd 2013 3:42 am
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Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 10494555)
In a word: Anglophobia

As a Scot I can truly say that some of my best mates are English and none of them are anything like "rude" in any way at all. I think the word "rude" needs interpretation in the context of that Anglophobic post. I have met a fair number of American tourists here in the UK both in Scotland and down in England and almost all of them commented on how "friendly and approachably amenable and polite" were most of the people they had met here.
We have found people to be extremely friendly, polite and very helpful generally speaking. There are of course always exceptions but 99 out of 100 seem to fit that description. Its really odd because I have read elsewhere on this forum that the British are unfriendly, wont look you in the eye on the street and are miserable. :lol:

scot47 Jan 22nd 2013 8:26 am
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Depends where you go !! Incredibly varied country ! (Or countries, depending on your perspective !)

Irish Guinness Jan 22nd 2013 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10498951)
We have found people to be extremely friendly, polite and very helpful generally speaking. There are of course always exceptions but 99 out of 100 seem to fit that description. Its really odd because I have read elsewhere on this forum that the British are unfriendly, wont look you in the eye on the street and are miserable. :lol:
Same here !! we visit each year and have found people friendly,you will always get the exceptions.

Pollyana Jan 22nd 2013 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Irish Guinness (Post 10499814)
Same here !! we visit each year and have found people friendly,you will always get the exceptions.
I marvel at it every time I go back; the difference I find between home and Brisbane is that if they bother to talk to you and appear friendly at home then its almost always genuine. Here there is a false veneer thats very hard to get through. At home, whether they actually care or not most people appear to care and have an interest. Here its more "äh well, your life, tough luck, who cares - next...."

brits1 Jan 22nd 2013 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10498259)
Is a "retic" a garden sprinkler?

I never could afford a sprinkler system and any time I left on a trip for more than a few days I'd be worried all those plants I had spent good money on would be all shrivelled up when I got back. In the height of the summer it wouldn't take long without manual watering for them to kick the bucket. :thumbdown:
Yes it is a sprinkler system and I would say most homes have them in Perth (hose pipes just dont cut it lol) we never use to leave our retic on when we went away as for the same fear, (we had installed both automated and manual retic)we once asked our neighbour if they could turn the manual retic on once a week (you were allowed your retic on twice a week for a certain time on a certain day when we lived in Perth) for us as we were overseas for a number of weeks on this one occasion, (I use to help them out with lifts etc) we really did not want to "put on them" but we had just laid a new..ish..lawn and did not want it to die,well when we got back home our lawn,plants etc had shrivelled and given up the fight, our neighbours said they had forgot and then asked if I could drop his partner off at an appointment near the City..lol...I DID..

chris955 Jan 22nd 2013 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10499510)
Depends where you go !! Incredibly varied country ! (Or countries, depending on your perspective !)
Of course it depends where you go, same with anything and goes without saying I would have thought.

scot47 Jan 23rd 2013 9:29 am
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For a small country UK is in fact much more varied than many larger ones. Travel a few miles here and you will see huge differences, in culture, language, cookery and all tghe other vaspects of "Culture". Class is another variant that outsiders often do not fully grasp !

The UK really is quite an odd place !

brits1 Jan 24th 2013 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10501669)
For a small country UK is in fact much more varied than many larger ones. Travel a few miles here and you will see huge differences, in culture, language, cookery and all tghe other vaspects of "Culture". Class is another variant that outsiders often do not fully grasp !

The UK really is quite an odd place !
I would say unique.

Caryatid Jan 25th 2013 5:36 am
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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10499510)
Depends where you go !! Incredibly varied country ! (Or countries, depending on your perspective !)
I'd agree with that, and this is what makes the UK so interesting, there's something for everyone!

Emmbritt123 Feb 10th 2013 8:48 am
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Wow, my son and I are reading your posts..Tel8, I read your post out loud to him, as I am wanting to return to England after 30 years of living in Phoenix, Arizona. My two children are grown, and I miss England, my son stated he would love to live in England (both my children were born in US). I keep reading the posts to help me make my mind up and so far I have not read one post that is negative. Yippee....I am making plans to come home! Thank you for your great post Tel8!!

Perth Feb 10th 2013 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Emmbritt123 (Post 10536504)
Wow, my son and I are reading your posts..Tel8, I read your post out loud to him, as I am wanting to return to England after 30 years of living in Phoenix, Arizona. My two children are grown, and I miss England, my son stated he would love to live in England (both my children were born in US). I keep reading the posts to help me make my mind up and so far I have not read one post that is negative. Yippee....I am making plans to come home! Thank you for your great post Tel8!!
It is wonderful that your children are all for moving back. There are many on here who are torn between going home and leaving children and sometimes grandchildren behind. My grown daughter's recent desire to live overseas, although for her it was not particularly Britain, unleashed such a homesickness in me, and now we are making plans to go home. Where she will permanently land we have no idea, but it looks more and more like she will follow us home, at least for a while. :thumbsup:

ohwottodo Mar 3rd 2013 1:15 am
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home is somewhere that makes you stop stressing about where you are, where you should be, and where you're going next

i love this quote - after 8 years in the us our son is now turning 17 and its suddenly hit me me like a sledge hammer that once he has finished college he will have to move out of the country - for the past 8 years all we have done is stressed about our visa - forked out money to attorneys and for what? yes we have a beautiful home, awesome friends, sunny days, but family is so much more - i want to be around my children as they grow up and get jobs, form relationships - its not going to happen here as again we are going to be in the same cycle of visa renewals & sorting out ways for the kids to stay for years to come. Our son wants to desperately work, that aint never going to happen here - i am having a bit of a pitty party as all i here from other people in the uk is "why would you want to come back?"
Because we spend our whole life revolving around our visas living a life here with no ending.

Perth Mar 3rd 2013 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by ohwottodo (Post 10580513)
home is somewhere that makes you stop stressing about where you are, where you should be, and where you're going next

i love this quote - after 8 years in the us our son is now turning 17 and its suddenly hit me me like a sledge hammer that once he has finished college he will have to move out of the country - for the past 8 years all we have done is stressed about our visa - forked out money to attorneys and for what? yes we have a beautiful home, awesome friends, sunny days, but family is so much more - i want to be around my children as they grow up and get jobs, form relationships - its not going to happen here as again we are going to be in the same cycle of visa renewals & sorting out ways for the kids to stay for years to come. Our son wants to desperately work, that aint never going to happen here - i am having a bit of a pitty party as all i here from other people in the uk is "why would you want to come back?"
Because we spend our whole life revolving around our visas living a life here with no ending.
What is your situation? Why can't your kids stay? Do they want to go back? I have heard all that negative stuff too, and you can read plenty of it here too. I spend many years and many more dollars finding a way to stay here, and now after 25 years I am ready to go home, despite the nay-sayers. We have to spend an insane amount of money to get my USC husband over, but it will be worth it :thumbsup:

ohwottodo Mar 3rd 2013 2:53 am
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What is your situation?

we are on an e2 visa so the kids are only eligible to stay here while in full time education/college Our son is in cosmetology school at the moment but when he finishes will not be able to stay as the e2 will not cover him and he will be classed as an adult.
He is uneligable to work here and at his age he is wanting to earn money,

when we first came over we thought it would change and by the time the kids got older we would have worked something out - but the years creep up on you quickly and before you know it they are starting to leave school

I can not keep going through the cycle of getting a visa and never really belonging as i know its not for ever - I don't want my family split up - that's not what life is all about

dunroving Mar 3rd 2013 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by ohwottodo (Post 10580616)
What is your situation?

we are on an e2 visa so the kids are only eligible to stay here while in full time education/college Our son is in cosmetology school at the moment but when he finishes will not be able to stay as the e2 will not cover him and he will be classed as an adult.
He is uneligable to work here and at his age he is wanting to earn money,

when we first came over we thought it would change and by the time the kids got older we would have worked something out - but the years creep up on you quickly and before you know it they are starting to leave school

I can not keep going through the cycle of getting a visa and never really belonging as i know its not for ever - I don't want my family split up - that's not what life is all about
Is an e2 not a dual-intent visa (can't you apply for a Green Card)? It may be past the time to ask that question if you have decided to come back, but I was just curious.

rebs Mar 3rd 2013 3:23 am
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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10580638)
Is an e2 not a dual-intent visa (can't you apply for a Green Card)? It may be past the time to ask that question if you have decided to come back, but I was just curious.
No - the E2 is not dual intent.

Over on the US board, it is generally considered a very bad visa option for anyone with children and people are often advised against it.

dunroving Mar 3rd 2013 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by rebs (Post 10580652)
No - the E2 is not dual intent.

Over on the US board, it is generally considered a very bad visa option for anyone with children and people are often advised against it.
OK, I was always on an H-1 so tend to forget that other visas truly are intended to be temporary - though you can only stay for 6 years on the H-1, you can at least submit a GC application.

On a related note, I wrote a reference for a Chinese colleague who applied for her GC and just heard from her that it was approved! Nice to be able to help someone else to achieve their dreams. :thumbsup:

Emmbritt123 Mar 3rd 2013 4:28 am
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Mrs. Bucket...I see you live in Mesa, AZ...I live in Tempe and am hoping to go home soon..back to blightly....how long you been here? I've been here 30 years.....hate the heat, etc etc....write back!

Bud the Wiser Mar 3rd 2013 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by ohwottodo (Post 10580616)
What is your situation?

we are on an e2 visa so the kids are only eligible to stay here while in full time education/college Our son is in cosmetology school at the moment but when he finishes will not be able to stay as the e2 will not cover him and he will be classed as an adult.
He is uneligable to work here and at his age he is wanting to earn money,

when we first came over we thought it would change and by the time the kids got older we would have worked something out - but the years creep up on you quickly and before you know it they are starting to leave school

I can not keep going through the cycle of getting a visa and never really belonging as i know its not for ever - I don't want my family split up - that's not what life is all about
Been there, got the scars to prove it. A visa from hell.

ohwottodo Mar 3rd 2013 11:48 am
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Yes it was all good 8 years ago when we were planning to move - full of excitement - sure we could work something out - "its a long time away" -

we also bought our house in 2005 and paid whey to much for it, we had 2 years of not paying the mortgage and now the bank have forgiven the arrears and wiped $206 thousand of our mortgage reducing our payments by more than half which has got us out of the negative equity hole - atleast we will be able to sell the house now.

we did flip our e2 visa which meant that instead of my husband being primary owner of our business i became the primary owner which meant he could work elsewhere (that was a good move )
the never ending yoyo of forking out money for something that is never going to be has finally took its toll.

of course i am very concerned about the move kids are 17, 14 and 11 so at ages where in september the youngest will be going to middle school - the american way of life is all they know - so getting back into a uk school system is very daunting for me.

Perth Mar 4th 2013 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by ohwottodo (Post 10581370)
Yes it was all good 8 years ago when we were planning to move - full of excitement - sure we could work something out - "its a long time away" -

we also bought our house in 2005 and paid whey to much for it, we had 2 years of not paying the mortgage and now the bank have forgiven the arrears and wiped $206 thousand of our mortgage reducing our payments by more than half which has got us out of the negative equity hole - atleast we will be able to sell the house now.

we did flip our e2 visa which meant that instead of my husband being primary owner of our business i became the primary owner which meant he could work elsewhere (that was a good move )
the never ending yoyo of forking out money for something that is never going to be has finally took its toll.

of course i am very concerned about the move kids are 17, 14 and 11 so at ages where in september the youngest will be going to middle school - the american way of life is all they know - so getting back into a uk school system is very daunting for me.
If this will help at all, there have been several people on this forum who have taken children (even teenagers) back, and in all instances that I remember, the kids have taken to it like ducks to water. They have made friends quickly and have managed to catch up with the school work (which will be more challenging if you are coming from the US). I think it is harder for us adults to adapt, even if it is our homeland we are going back to!

WhoFan63 Mar 4th 2013 2:59 am
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Originally Posted by mrs Bucket (Post 10379411)
Tel8

Thats a lovely post, being an ex londoner I laughed about crossing the road (you definitely brought back fond memories, I am a south london girl as well).

These are all the things I miss (apart from meat bits we are veggie's) and cannot wait to return to. We are in Arizona so understand about the heat!

Keep on enjoying the UK and life.:)

I'm in Arizona too..and can't wait to get back to some cold weather..lol, where people think a heatwave is when the temperatures hit 75 F. This Arizona heat is killing me, so all I can say is I will be glad not to be here for another Arizona summer. :D :thumbsup:

windsong Mar 4th 2013 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by WhoFan63 (Post 10582592)
I'm in Arizona too..and can't wait to get back to some cold weather..lol, where people think a heatwave is when the temperatures hit 75 F. This Arizona heat is killing me, so all I can say is I will be glad not to be here for another Arizona summer. :D :thumbsup:
It would be terrific to see the four full seasons, once again. I don't care for too much snow but, after living in the Midwest, I think I could deal with whatever a British winter has to offer now. I really miss the springtime, though. Here, spring is over in about two weeks. I can't adjust to a new season that quickly ;)

Celticspirit Mar 4th 2013 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by windsong (Post 10582609)
It would be terrific to see the four full seasons, once again. I don't care for too much snow but, after living in the Midwest, I think I could deal with whatever a British winter has to offer now. I really miss the springtime, though. Here, spring is over in about two weeks. I can't adjust to a new season that quickly ;)
Today we have 84F in Dallas. Not looking forward to another unbearably hot summer here. We listed our house this weekend so we are moving along, albeit slowly. Last March/April I spent two weeks in Northern Ireland. Snowdrops and daffodils and baby lambs in the fields. It was a glorious trip.

WhoFan63 Mar 4th 2013 6:29 am
Re: Things I've learned Since Being Back in the UK
 
Originally Posted by windsong (Post 10582609)
It would be terrific to see the four full seasons, once again. I don't care for too much snow but, after living in the Midwest, I think I could deal with whatever a British winter has to offer now. I really miss the springtime, though. Here, spring is over in about two weeks. I can't adjust to a new season that quickly ;)
I love the snow, and the cold..lol. Don't get me wrong I love the springtime too, but at least I know if I'm cold I can put on a sweater and get warm, whereas here if I get too hot I can't strip off anymore without getting arrested...:eek:

bluenose123 Mar 4th 2013 10:30 am
Re: Things I've learned Since Being Back in the UK
 
Originally Posted by WhoFan63 (Post 10583125)
I love the snow, and the cold..lol. Don't get me wrong I love the springtime too, but at least I know if I'm cold I can put on a sweater and get warm, whereas here if I get too hot I can't strip off anymore without getting arrested...:eek:
Why can't you strip off in your own garden?
I can spend all day in the sun, that is when it shines.

WhoFan63 Mar 4th 2013 10:47 am
Re: Things I've learned Since Being Back in the UK
 
Originally Posted by bluenose123 (Post 10583626)
Why can't you strip off in your own garden?
I can spend all day in the sun, that is when it shines.
I live with friends right now and all the houses around us are two storey so they can see right into the garden. I'd be worried about scaring the neighbours lol
I'd do it all the time in Australia and gave a workman next door a shock when he stuck his head over the fence to ask for help :)


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