The Slow Death of the Apostrophe

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I think one reason the apostrophe is becoming a lost cause is the autocorrect. For instance, it often inserts “your” or “you’re” seemingly randomly. That is, it doesn’t seem to be intelligent enough to choose the correct spelling according to context. It’s annoying to have to edit your postings and other text to make sure these errors haven’t crept in - but I think it must be very difficult for those who are unsure, who may not know the rules etc., and are reduced to just accepting what autocorrect gives them.

One specific thing in the article. There’s a picture of a road sign, “St Pauls Churchyard” or something. Caption says, apostrophe is missing. Well yes, but it is a national place naming standard now (I believe) to omit apostrophes from street names and other locality names, in all cases. I think it’s a sensible signage rationalization, so long as it’s done consistently.
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And what about the hyphen? In America, they haven't used it for years. I love hyphens!
And italics!
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I think one reason the apostrophe is becoming a lost cause is the autocorrect. For instance, it often inserts “your” or “you’re” seemingly randomly. That is, it doesn’t seem to be intelligent enough to choose the correct spelling according to context. It’s annoying to have to edit your postings and other text to make sure these errors haven’t crept in - but I think it must be very difficult for those who are unsure, who may not know the rules etc., and are reduced to just accepting what autocorrect gives them.

One specific thing in the article. There’s a picture of a road sign, “St Pauls Churchyard” or something. Caption says, apostrophe is missing. Well yes, but it is a national place naming standard now (I believe) to omit apostrophes from street names and other locality names, in all cases. I think it’s a sensible signage rationalization, so long as it’s done consistently.
I know I'm an old pain in the arse but I hate seeing incorrect punctuation, spelling and grammar. It's almost as though I take it personally and I'm offended. How sad am I?
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I know I'm an old pain in the arse but I hate seeing incorrect punctuation, spelling and grammar. It's almost as though I take it personally and I'm offended. How sad am I?
Dont take it personally. Im sure we can still understand a sentence without unnecessary apostrophe's.
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
I know I'm an old pain in the arse but I hate seeing incorrect punctuation, spelling and grammar. It's almost as though I take it personally and I'm offended. How sad am I?
You're as sad as me because I feel exactly the same way.
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Dont take it personally. Im sure we can still understand a sentence without unnecessary apostrophe's.
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Dont take it personally. Im sure we can still understand a sentence without unnecessary apostrophe's.
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I know I'm an old pain in the arse but I hate seeing incorrect punctuation, spelling and grammar. It's almost as though I take it personally and I'm offended. How sad am I?
When I first lived in the US, I meticulously used US spelling in work and other US contexts, and British spelling when writing home to my sister etc. After a few years, I said “**** it,” and deliberately mixed & matched spelling. With my sister, I also deliberately use American usages just to annoy her. (As in: “Robin, would you like some more potatoes?” Me: “I’m good, thanks.”)
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When I first lived in the US, I meticulously used US spelling in work and other US contexts, and British spelling when writing home to my sister etc. After a few years, I said “**** it,” and deliberately mixed & matched spelling. With my sister, I also deliberately use American usages just to annoy her. (As in: “Robin, would you like some more potatoes?” Me: “I’m good, thanks.”)
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When I first lived in the US, I meticulously used US spelling in work and other US contexts, and British spelling when writing home to my sister etc. After a few years, I said “**** it,” and deliberately mixed & matched spelling. With my sister, I also deliberately use American usages just to annoy her. (As in: “Robin, would you like some more potatoes?” Me: “I’m good, thanks.”)
I think there's a lot of cross pollination going on these days (internet, Netflix, etc). For instance, I've noticed Americans recently using the word bonkers, which, frankly, is just bonkers.
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Superb. Haven't seen that before.
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Superb. Haven't seen that before.
I came across a different version a couple of weeks ago - posted somewhere here - and when I was trying to find it, I found this one instead.
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