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Old Aug 16th 2011 | 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Erm, could we just start with some conversation?

I harbour this insane idea that a lot of what I identify as xenophobia (I'm really not trying to be inflammatory here) would be alleviated if those involved could actually converse and manage to see each other as people. Once you know someone, it's really hard to assign all those negative characterizations as a group. This is the origin, I think, of statements of the "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are (fill in the ethnicity of your choice)" etc that some people make. Once you have a conversation, the person become a human being to you and the assumptions and generalizations have to stop. Then it's possible to separate behaviour from things that have nothing whatsoever to do with it, such as melanin levels in the skin or culture of origin.
Whilst I agree with your sentiment it's not always possible. People don't always have the time (or inclination for whatever reason) to get into big conversations to support their short and concise answers. That doesn't make someone a racist (or substitute whatever pre-conceived idea).

Not sure what you are referring to but in my case I was unable to get into any big convo with you cos I was on my way to work. This meant you kept coming back for a bite and getting mre argumentative. Whilst this doesn't bother me personally (Mods have thick skin) I could see how this winds people up especially as your posts were becoming more and more inflamatory on the strength of it. This goes back again to your *perception* of what was being said as opposed to the reality of the situation

Anyways, we've exhausted this and flogged it to death mate. You do realise it's an anti climax for the people shouting "fight, fight, fight" on the sidelines

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Old Aug 16th 2011 | 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Cheers, mate. But that's just not going to happen, I'm no rat.
...or you just made it all up for effect?
 
Old Aug 16th 2011 | 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I think it's just an attempt at bullying really.

However, I went to an all-girls school until I was sixteen so there is NOTHING that can frighten me after that.
Really?
There is plenty that scares the crap out out me and I'd take a small bet on my comprehensive school in Moss Side, being that bit tougher than an all girls school.
 
Old Aug 16th 2011 | 6:21 pm
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whilst I agree with some of the stuff said by you (ie LOW and Lezzachops) about prejudice etc, I think a lot of your posts were very insulting......

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Old Aug 16th 2011 | 10:10 pm
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This is one of those times that I realize it's too early in the am to start at the last post and read backwards.
 
Old Aug 16th 2011 | 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by cindyabs
This is one of those times that I realize it's too early in the am to start at the last post and read backwards.
Go get a cuppa mate

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Old Aug 17th 2011 | 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by cindyabs
This is one of those times that I realize it's too early in the am to start at the last post and read backwards.

It is a bit like the united nations in here honey, certainly confusing but good for a giggle
 
Old Aug 17th 2011 | 12:29 am
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Originally Posted by Sugarmooma
It is a bit like the united nations in here honey,
Only without the simultaneous translation, unfortunately.

No nice building in New York, either.
 
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Only without the simultaneous translation, unfortunately.

No nice building in New York, either.

thats where imagination kicks in....or the drugs
 
Old Aug 17th 2011 | 12:38 am
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
...or you just made it all up for effect?
That gives revealing insight into how you think. Sounds exactly like something you'd do, that and trying to kick off a fight (again) in a thread where everybody had just buried the hatchet.
 
Old Aug 17th 2011 | 12:48 am
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Oh no...not again

It's nearly my bed time....

Like Leslie says......can't we do a mass love in instead
 
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Riots here in the UK?........the recent events were a wee bit tame compared with past riots on the streets of England......as that which took place in England 192 years ago yesterday - on 16 August 1819.......in the centre of Manchester......the Peterloo Massacre. No half measures back then - bring in the militia to sort the buggers out. You'd be surprised how many people calling in to radio phone-ins here in the UK since last week's events said that similar methods to deal with those looters and arsonists and common criminals should have been brought into action.

You wouldn't believe just how much publicity the bloody awful, crappy luvvy lefty (Biased) British Broadcasting Corporation is giving to the pronouncements of the limp wristed spokespersons (BBC speak) of the Loony Left, to which the BBC gives far too much air time, that far too many of the judicial sentences being imposed in the courts on those found guilty of criminal offences are "too harsh, too tough!"! Apparently the "human rights" of the thieving, looting, cop bashing, violent, yobbish, scumbag rioters are being ignored and disregarded..........effin' hell!

http://www.peterloomassacre.org/history.html
 
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Riots here in the UK?........the recent events were a wee bit tame compared with past riots on the streets of England......as that which took place in England 192 years ago yesterday - on 16 August 1819.......in the centre of Manchester......the Peterloo Massacre. No half measures back then - bring in the militia to sort the buggers out. You'd be surprised how many people calling in to radio phone-ins here in the UK since last week's events said that similar methods to deal with those looters and arsonists and common criminals should have been brought into action.

You wouldn't believe just how much publicity the bloody awful, crappy luvvy lefty (Biased) British Broadcasting Corporation is giving to the pronouncements of the limp wristed spokespersons (BBC speak) of the Loony Left, to which the BBC gives far too much air time, that far too many of the judicial sentences being imposed in the courts on those found guilty of criminal offences are "too harsh, too tough!"! Apparently the "human rights" of the thieving, looting, cop bashing, violent, yobbish, scumbag rioters are being ignored and disregarded..........effin' hell!

http://www.peterloomassacre.org/history.html
This one did seem harsh - Two men jailed for four years for posting messages inciting riots although no trouble resulted from them.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...riot-sentences
 
Old Aug 17th 2011 | 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by Lothianlad
Riots here in the UK?........the recent events were a wee bit tame compared with past riots on the streets of England......as that which took place in England 192 years ago yesterday - on 16 August 1819.......in the centre of Manchester......the Peterloo Massacre. No half measures back then - bring in the militia to sort the buggers out. You'd be surprised how many people calling in to radio phone-ins here in the UK since last week's events said that similar methods to deal with those looters and arsonists and common criminals should have been brought into action.

You wouldn't believe just how much publicity the bloody awful, crappy luvvy lefty (Biased) British Broadcasting Corporation is giving to the pronouncements of the limp wristed spokespersons (BBC speak) of the Loony Left, to which the BBC gives far too much air time, that far too many of the judicial sentences being imposed in the courts on those found guilty of criminal offences are "too harsh, too tough!"! Apparently the "human rights" of the thieving, looting, cop bashing, violent, yobbish, scumbag rioters are being ignored and disregarded..........effin' hell!

http://www.peterloomassacre.org/history.html
The BBC have a duty to present BOTH sides of the story, and they do that very well. They have by far the most balanced analysis of any major news organisation. Apparently, given the tone of your posts on this matter, perhaps you'd be better off in the USofA with FOX News.

I don't agree with the idea that the current sentences are too harsh, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't get to hear about it, or listen to what other people may think about the issue. As for the idea that we should have deployed troops (or water cannon, or baton rounds), it's not a very "British" way of doing things. One of this country's strengths has always been the consensus policing method. Long may it continue - even in the face of the kind of provocations we saw last week.

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Old Aug 17th 2011 | 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by Lothianlad
the bloody awful, crappy luvvy lefty (Biased) British Broadcasting Corporation

the limp wristed spokespersons (BBC speak) of the Loony Left,

the "human rights" of the thieving, looting, cop bashing, violent, yobbish, scumbag rioters are being ignored and disregarded..........effin' hell!
Thank gawd we have your voice to counteract the outrageous BBC, eh?
 


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