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LoveFortheUK Jul 6th 2015 2:17 am

The NHS
 
Hello everyone
I just read an article where actress Emilia Clarke stated that the NHS was brilliant. At first, I re-read that portion of the article to make sure I didn't sense sarcasm in her statement.
Since I didn't notice anything mocking, I began to ask myself, "Why would this wealthy woman, who can have whatever she wants, live where she wants, etc., support a system that the US media has portrayed as a failure?" What does she know that us Americans don't?
After all, the Fox Nauseating Network constantly reminds the American public about the UK's waiting period and death panels and so on.
Meanwhile, the US has plenty of waiting periods. I called my doctor in June three years ago and told I wanted to get a physical. His next available spot was in November (for a physical?) My father is having some issues and guess what. His doctor was unreachable for a few days. Really?
There must be SOMETHING good about the NHS otherwise Britain wouldn't be enforcing tighter immigration controls to keep freeloaders out.

not2old Jul 6th 2015 4:25 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11692827)
Hello everyone
I just read an article where actress Emilia Clarke stated that the NHS was brilliant. At first, I re-read that portion of the article to make sure I didn't sense sarcasm in her statement.

There must be SOMETHING good about the NHS otherwise Britain wouldn't be enforcing tighter immigration controls to keep freeloaders out.

its all a lie, a total lie & every freeloader knows it:blink:

Of course you have to live in the UK to understand & appreciate life as well as the benefits of everything it has to offer such as the NHS

LoveFortheUK Jul 6th 2015 4:45 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11692938)
its all a lie, a total lie & every freeloader knows it:blink:

Of course you have to live in the UK to understand & appreciate life as well as the benefits of everything it has to offer such as the NHS

Just to clarify, what is a lie?
The NHS is good or Britain's keeping out freeloaders?

Giantaxe Jul 6th 2015 5:08 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11692827)
Since I didn't notice anything mocking, I began to ask myself, "Why would this wealthy woman, who can have whatever she wants, live where she wants, etc., support a system that the US media has portrayed as a failure?" What does she know that us Americans don't?

That the US media is full of shit.

not2old Jul 6th 2015 5:09 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11692955)
Just to clarify, what is a lie?
The NHS is good or Britain's keeping out freeloaders?

who is Emilia Clarke & what makes her an expert on the NHS?

Link to that article please

Editha Jul 6th 2015 7:22 am

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Emilia Clarke is a very beautiful actress, who plays Daenerys Targaryen in the TV dramatisation of Game of Thrones.

colchar Jul 6th 2015 8:01 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11692973)
who is Emilia Clarke & what makes her an expert on the NHS?



Well she is English (she grew up in Berkshire) so I am going to guess that her expertise comes from her having significant experience with it.

not2old Jul 6th 2015 8:28 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11692827)
Hello everyone
I just read an article where actress Emilia Clarke stated that the NHS was brilliant. At first, I re-read that portion of the article to make sure I didn't sense sarcasm in her statement.

Since I didn't notice anything mocking, I began to ask myself, "Why would this wealthy woman, who can have whatever she wants, live where she wants, etc., support a system that the US media has portrayed as a failure?" What does she know that us Americans don't?


Originally Posted by colchar (Post 11693113)
Well she is English (she grew up in Berkshire) so I am going to guess that her expertise comes from her having significant experience with it.

it all makes sense now, that a rich & somewhat [for now] celebrity British actor with loads of money has the right to as much freeloading as anyone else in the UK - rightfully so:nod:

Carry on...

BEVS Jul 6th 2015 10:41 am

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11693138)
it all makes sense now

It doesn't to me.

Editha Jul 6th 2015 1:23 pm

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11693138)
it all makes sense now, that a rich & somewhat [for now] celebrity British actor with loads of money has the right to as much freeloading as anyone else in the UK - rightfully so:nod:

Carry on...

Why 'freeloading'?

BEVS Jul 6th 2015 2:42 pm

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I don't know.

Where is this article?

rebeccajo Jul 7th 2015 2:05 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11693138)
it all makes sense now, that a rich & somewhat [for now] celebrity British actor with loads of money has the right to as much freeloading as anyone else in the UK - rightfully so:nod:

Carry on...

Is there a grumpy old man award on BE? :o

not2old Jul 7th 2015 2:42 am

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Originally Posted by rebeccajo (Post 11693742)
Is there a grumpy old man award on BE? :o


Rubbish & you know it :lol:

Editha Jul 7th 2015 3:27 am

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I'm still waiting for an explanation by Not2Old why he thinks that if Emilia Clarke uses the NHS, she is 'freeloading'.

I await his explanation with interest, since I think we can assume Clarke is a higher rate taxpayer.

colchar Jul 7th 2015 5:07 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11693138)
it all makes sense now, that a rich & somewhat [for now] celebrity British actor with loads of money has the right to as much freeloading as anyone else in the UK - rightfully so:nod:

Carry on...


She wasn't always rich.

colchar Jul 7th 2015 5:09 am

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Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11693846)

I await his explanation with interest, since I think we can assume Clarke is a higher rate taxpayer.


I believe she lives in the US now so might not be paying British taxes any longer. But she would have been using the system as she grew up (ie. before she was rich, since being wealthy is apparently an issue here).

not2old Jul 7th 2015 5:34 am

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Originally Posted by colchar (Post 11693937)
I believe she lives in the US now so might not be paying British taxes any longer. But she would have been using the system as she grew up (ie. before she was rich, since being wealthy is apparently an issue here).

on that point & coming full circle to the OP for which we have yet to see the said "article" in which Emilia Clarke is suppose to have said the "NHS was brilliant" - I'm wondering if the recent 'walking with crutches' [celeb shots] if 'as a person who is not normally resident in the UK' did she manage to get NHS services for free, or whether she has paid for those NHS services?

Could she be a 'freeloader'... only Emilia would know:nod:

Editha Jul 7th 2015 6:48 am

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She lives in London (source Daily Mail 2015).

not2old Jul 7th 2015 6:59 am

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on post#18, then, as normally resident in the UK, paying all the bits & bobs associated with it, Emilia would likely be entitled to the 'Brilliant NHS" without being classed [by me] as a freeloader.

Apologies to Emilia Clarke & everyone else for my accusation.

Back to my 'grumpy old man' rocking chair

LoveFortheUK Jul 7th 2015 3:29 pm

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11694034)
on post#18, then, as normally resident in the UK, paying all the bits & bobs associated with it, Emilia would likely be entitled to the 'Brilliant NHS" without being classed [by me] as a freeloader.

Apologies to Emilia Clarke & everyone else for my accusation.

Back to my 'grumpy old man' rocking chair

The article was posted on Yahoo sometime last week. I didn't save the link. If I find, I'll post the link.

Regarding my statement, I posted that Ms. Clarke SUPPORTS the NHS. I will assume that she has private healthcare now. My point was, she believes in a system that the US touts as a disaster. To me, that means her experiences must have been positive in contrast to what the US has to say about British healthcare.

Now, Ms. Clarke, from what I've read, had to be hospitalized in New York a couple of years ago. If I ever have a chance to meet this woman, I would ask her, "what the difference in treatment was?"

Jerseygirl Jul 7th 2015 11:06 pm

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11694330)
The article was posted on Yahoo sometime last week. I didn't save the link. If I find, I'll post the link.

Regarding my statement, I posted that Ms. Clarke SUPPORTS the NHS. I will assume that she has private healthcare now. My point was, she believes in a system that the US touts as a disaster. To me, that means her experiences must have been positive in contrast to what the US has to say about British healthcare.

Now, Ms. Clarke, from what I've read, had to be hospitalized in New York a couple of years ago. If I ever have a chance to meet this woman, I would ask her, "what the difference in treatment was?"

Of course the U.S. trashes the UK health system...because the are defending their own system...which of course like everything else they claim is the 'best in the world'.

not2old Jul 8th 2015 12:18 am

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Brought to you by Fox news & paid for by the White House.

Tell the American people that the UK NHS medicare will never work in the States, that way the government needs to spend less on taking care of people, putting budget money to military, defense, NSA, conspiracy theory departments, fear-mongering the public, that the US is a target so we must protect ourselves as the 'greatest nation on this planet'

In the meantime please pay more tax so we can make our loan payments on the national debt as it approaches $19 trillion

Meanwhile back in Hollywood, life goes on ....

LoveFortheUK Jul 8th 2015 11:46 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 11694525)
Of course the U.S. trashes the UK health system...because the are defending their own system...which of course like everything else they claim is the 'best in the world'.

Thank you Jerseygirl
I'm happy that I'm not the only US citizen who sees the American healthcare for what it truly is. A 3 on a 10 scale.

Last year, I had to go for an echo and a stress test because my doctor said it was necessary. My insurance company paid $500 and left me with the remaining $3,000. That's the US healthcare system for you.

not2old Jul 9th 2015 12:54 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11695139)

Last year, I had to go for an echo and a stress test because my doctor said it was necessary. My insurance company paid $500 and left me with the remaining $3,000. That's the US healthcare system for you.

Absolutely terrible, even with health insurance, folks could be bankrupt in no time is my guess?

Maybe for just that reason alone you need to move to the UK:nod:

Pollyana Jul 9th 2015 1:20 am

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https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emilia-...938438478.html

Aware that the hourglass is nearly out of sand, I ask Emilia to reel off a few of the things that she’s really passionate about and we end up embroiled in a fun conversation about London, Emma Watson and how brilliant the NHS is, but we barely have time to really get into the nitty gritty before her agent is champing at the bit for us to wrap it up so that the movie star can be delivered to her next engagement.

Best I can find link-wise.......:unsure:

not2old Jul 9th 2015 7:16 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by LoveFortheUK (Post 11694330)
The article was posted on Yahoo sometime last week. I didn't save the link. If I find, I'll post the link.

Regarding my statement, I posted that Ms. Clarke SUPPORTS the NHS. I will assume that she has private healthcare now. My point was, she believes in a system that the US touts as a disaster. To me, that means her experiences must have been positive in contrast to what the US has to say about British healthcare.

not from Pollyana post #25 above found in the yahoo link? Is there more to this?

amideislas Jul 9th 2015 8:23 am

Re: The NHS
 
The NHS is indeed brilliant. Consider that it serves 65 million inhabitants for 'free' (well, somebody pays for it, but who cares as long as its not me?).

Seriously though, you may have to wait 6 weeks for a GP appointment, and your surgery may be pushed back to next year, but you can always go to A&E with a sniffle to get a box of ibuprofen - for free! I mean, why bother going to boots?

You won't get that kind of service in Germany. And you have to pay up to 10% for prescriptions. Spain too. Ka-ching!

All things considered, the NHS is probably the most efficient public health care system on the planet, especially considering that it's free. Unfortunately, that's also one if its biggest problems.

Editha Jul 9th 2015 9:32 am

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11695788)
The NHS is indeed brilliant. Consider that it serves 65 million inhabitants for 'free' (well, somebody pays for it, but who cares as long as its not me?).

Seriously though, you may have to wait 6 weeks for a GP appointment, and your surgery may be pushed back to next year, but you can always go to A&E with a sniffle to get a box of ibuprofen - for free! I mean, why bother going to boots?

You won't get that kind of service in Germany. And you have to pay up to 10% for prescriptions. Spain too. Ka-ching!

All things considered, the NHS is probably the most efficient public health care system on the planet, especially considering that it's free. Unfortunately, that's also one if its biggest problems.

Insane drivel.

amideislas Jul 13th 2015 5:19 am

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Maybe insane, but you have to give the NHS a lot of credit. It's not perfect, but at least you can get it - for "free". Those that whinge endlessly about it simply don't know anything else.

Editha Jul 13th 2015 6:04 am

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It was you I was accusing of insanity, not the NHS. The NHS is perfectly sane.

amideislas Jul 13th 2015 7:28 am

Re: The NHS
 

Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11698486)
It was you I was accusing of insanity, not the NHS. The NHS is perfectly sane.

Yes, Ok... so what's your point? Or are strawman arguments a specialty of yours?


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