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troj Apr 9th 2008 9:55 pm

Re: Main reason for moving back?
 

Originally Posted by isleofmanmike (Post 6181525)
Great Post Paul. Are you then planning to return to the UK. I agree with all your observations.

Hi,

yeah I think so. We're going to have a good think about it over the weekend... We are going to keep our plans quiet from our families for a while though, just incase we do another U-turn!!:ohmy:

del k Apr 10th 2008 4:02 am

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Originally Posted by Jumbo_Celcius (Post 6180874)
One thing I will do differently when I return is take more short breaks in European cities, being so far away from everything in Perth has made me realise I should've been doing it more.

Sorry Jumbo, reading over some posts and a bit slow on the uptake here! Just thought I'd say good luck when you go home. I'm from Aberdeen too and hoping to be back in the next couple of months. Can't wait and I never thought I'd say that! We came for a 2 year holiday as well and yes the holiday is over, it's been good but time to go home.
Bet you a tenner it's grey when you land at Dyce!

LouiseD Apr 10th 2008 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 6186405)
Some days I feel that way, especially with all the stress you go through to get back home....I weigh up 10 years here and think "was it worth it"....not really....it was okay...but that's all....would I have migrated with hindsight...no....and it has not been a bad 10 years....just wish we had realised just how good we had it when we lived at home...you live and learn...
I should be a wise old sage after this (well here's hoping)

I honestly don't think many Brits realise how good they have it here. I hear moans about everything from the weather and the cost of living to how there is "nothing to do here". I think we are just conditioned to be negative.

It's a complete joke. We are a nation of moaning minnies who don't realise what a fab country we have and what an amazing quality of life we have. I don't know many other nations where ordinary people can holiday abroad two and three times a year, have two or three cars on the drive, have access to amazing countryside within an hour or so and have such amazing wonderful history and social activities.

If there is one positive out of our jaunt to Oz, it's that we now appreciate what we had and we realise that we are fortunate to live in such a great country. It isn't perfect, but it's still great :thumbup:

del k Apr 10th 2008 5:16 pm

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Louise D I fully agree with what you've said.
We headed off to oz in 2006 for a "change". We had a 3 year old and a 14 month old baby so thought it would be a great escape from the drudgery at home. Yeah, it's been good and I don't regret it at all but the emotions involved in leaving all your loved ones behind are hard to live with and although they can be blocked out some times for weeks at a time they always reappear.
I am really looking forward to going home, hopefully in the next couple of months. Call me shallow but I can't wait to hit the shops! WALKING along the streets in my home town with my kids, passing the time of day with people, spending time in the beautiful countryside, frosty mornings, long summer evenings, nights out in proper pubs and just being home are all things that I'm anxious to experience again. Having friends close by and feeling part of a community are valuable commodities in my view.
We fully intend to be out making the most of all we have on our doorstep. We have friends who spent 3 years in America before we set off on our travels and we couldn't understand why they weren't depressed being back home, now I fully understand

manc1 Apr 11th 2008 10:43 am

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[QUOTE=tictac;6181376]I find the standard of driving here frightening. Appalling in fact.

Dont get me started. :curse:

troj Apr 11th 2008 12:10 pm

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[QUOTE=manc1;6195994]

Originally Posted by tictac (Post 6181376)
I find the standard of driving here frightening. Appalling in fact.

Dont get me started. :curse:

Ah, go on...

I'm in the mood for a rant about Brisbane drivers!

sweep Apr 12th 2008 8:23 am

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Originally Posted by LouiseD (Post 6190227)
I honestly don't think many Brits realise how good they have it here. I hear moans about everything from the weather and the cost of living to how there is "nothing to do here". I think we are just conditioned to be negative.

It's a complete joke. We are a nation of moaning minnies who don't realise what a fab country we have and what an amazing quality of life we have. I don't know many other nations where ordinary people can holiday abroad two and three times a year, have two or three cars on the drive, have access to amazing countryside within an hour or so and have such amazing wonderful history and social activities.

If there is one positive out of our jaunt to Oz, it's that we now appreciate what we had and we realise that we are fortunate to live in such a great country. It isn't perfect, but it's still great :thumbup:

So true, we are conditioned to be negative about the UK, always searching for something better, and not appreciating what you do have. Them " Get a new Life" programmes dont help either !!

troj Apr 12th 2008 12:38 pm

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Well, OH and I have spent the last few days mulling over the decision to move back to England or continue on here in Brisbane through the homesickness and the difficulties of having a newborn in the house without the support of family.

So far, I think we are 90% in favour of moving back. I made a few enquiries about selling our house and shipping our belongings. The news on the value of the house was good, but then she dropped the bomb - the commission and advertising charge:ohmy: No wonder they all drive Mercs and Beemas!

Because I was the driving force behind the decision to move to Aus in the first place. I made it clear to OH (Louise), there is no wrong answer when I ask her if she would prefer to be here or in England. (A: would go home tomorrow) But, she feels she is letting me down in some way. I tell her that I'm completely comfortable with it - actually, quite happy about it! Maybe its the thought of up-rooting again and all the hassle that goes with moving to another country... again!

We already have return flights to England booked for the end of Sept but we're thinking; Once the house is sold, ship all the stuff back to England then go off caravaning for a few months and be back in Brisbane ready to fly in Sept and not get on the return flight to Bris...

Mentioned it to our friends in England (not to the family yet), they are all keen for us to come home. We havn't mentioned it to our friends here yet - not sure how they'll react?

Paul

troj Apr 12th 2008 12:43 pm

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Originally Posted by del k (Post 6191620)
Louise D I fully agree with what you've said.
We headed off to oz in 2006 for a "change". We had a 3 year old and a 14 month old baby so thought it would be a great escape from the drudgery at home. Yeah, it's been good and I don't regret it at all but the emotions involved in leaving all your loved ones behind are hard to live with and although they can be blocked out some times for weeks at a time they always reappear.
I am really looking forward to going home, hopefully in the next couple of months. Call me shallow but I can't wait to hit the shops! WALKING along the streets in my home town with my kids, passing the time of day with people, spending time in the beautiful countryside, frosty mornings, long summer evenings, nights out in proper pubs and just being home are all things that I'm anxious to experience again. Having friends close by and feeling part of a community are valuable commodities in my view.
We fully intend to be out making the most of all we have on our doorstep. We have friends who spent 3 years in America before we set off on our travels and we couldn't understand why they weren't depressed being back home, now I fully understand

Absolutely spot on! Looking forward to the same thing... Wierdly, even the thought of encountering an obnoxious little runt in a hoody on the high street dosn't put me off:D

brits1 Apr 12th 2008 1:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Jumbo_Celcius (Post 6180914)
You can now regale the guests at dinner parties with amusing anecdotes about the "colonies" whilst they're eating their prwan cocktails and supping Babycham.

Good one!!! yes, Perth is certainly a "social" place to be!!!....not!!!! and troj its exactly the same in Perth!!! try doing it for 10 years....help here comes the "Yellow Van"

brits1 Apr 12th 2008 2:02 pm

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Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 6181166)
For us, staying in the UK really isnt an option. I have just re trained as a geologist. If i stay in the UK i would have to work in something like environmental consulting - a job i dont want to do. I want to work in mining / exploration, so this means living somewhere that has a mining industry. If Oz doesnt work out, and we are aware it may not, then returning to the UK isnt an option. We would instead have to look at places such as Canada, (which we did consider) or maybe Africa

My huband works in the mining industry here in W.A and please be aware that he can be away sometimes for up to 7 weeks (short staffed) but the normal rosta for Mine staff now is 4 weeks away one week off, your partner will have to be left on here own for long periods and even being here for 10 years it's not great but being new to the country it might be horrible for your partner.....your family life becomes very "different" so just be aware......while the money is good it can be great, it is one of only few "places" my husband can work in his field.....some people do not have the choice. Just a word knew a couple who were both "army" came over here husband determined to work in the mines for the money wife fine about it...use to it etc...but he lasted a week....soooooooooooooo different was all they ever said......so please think about it..........good luck with everything though....and really do wish you the best......

brits1 Apr 12th 2008 2:10 pm

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Originally Posted by troj (Post 6200093)
Absolutely spot on! Looking forward to the same thing... Wierdly, even the thought of encountering an obnoxious little runt in a hoody on the high street dosn't put me off:D

Does'nt me either....at least you'd meet someone when your out!!!!! walking the dog last night...it was 7.30pm. (and this is a Saturday night!!)..it was dark and you would of thought it was midnight (well 9.30pm..when all W.A Aussies seem to go to bed)...not a sole around the only noise wasthe "boy" racers on the roads in the distance screeching their tyres.....wow.....what a night....

brits1 Apr 12th 2008 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by del k (Post 6191620)
Louise D I fully agree with what you've said.
We headed off to oz in 2006 for a "change". We had a 3 year old and a 14 month old baby so thought it would be a great escape from the drudgery at home. Yeah, it's been good and I don't regret it at all but the emotions involved in leaving all your loved ones behind are hard to live with and although they can be blocked out some times for weeks at a time they always reappear.
I am really looking forward to going home, hopefully in the next couple of months. Call me shallow but I can't wait to hit the shops! WALKING along the streets in my home town with my kids, passing the time of day with people, spending time in the beautiful countryside, frosty mornings, long summer evenings, nights out in proper pubs and just being home are all things that I'm anxious to experience again. Having friends close by and feeling part of a community are valuable commodities in my view.
We fully intend to be out making the most of all we have on our doorstep. We have friends who spent 3 years in America before we set off on our travels and we couldn't understand why they weren't depressed being back home, now I fully understand

so true, I met a lady who's young children had just started at my sons primary school in the U.K just as we were heading to Perth, this had just arrived from a suburb called "Thornie" in W.A (we had never heard of it as all our homework was for the "Northern" Suburbs..ironic really as we settled in Canning Vale next door to Thornlie)anyay she said after 3 years they had enough and were very glad to be back home...I thought she was mad.....(did not say though, just wished her well)...oh if only I had listened to our many doubs we were having at the time....we just thought it was last min. nerves....another thing at the time...I was a Teachers Assistant and the level of this ladies two young children was way behind ours at the time in the U.K....one of the teachers asked "where they had gone to school"...the mother replied....."Mars"!!!!! says it all.....

del k Apr 12th 2008 4:08 pm

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Husband out last night and his brother told him he thinks we are stupid to be heading back. "Think of the opportunities for the kids". Why do people find it necessary to force their opinions on us? I wouldn't dream of forcing my views on someone else even though I can fully accept and appreciate their reasons for living here and wanting to make it home.
My OH is a strong character and stopped him in his tracks while I on the other hand can see things I will miss here and just don't want to hear any conflicting views,I just want to be left to get on with it as it's hard enough already. I know I want to go home and I know when we get there that I will fell like my old self again and hopefully regain my confidence so wish these people would just be helpful and butt out.
The decision for me to move back is much more about missing out on a life with family and friends. My husband sees Perth as very limiting, geographically and socially. The kids love it but don't all little kids love their life whether they are splashing in puddles, sledging, making sandcastles, kicking up leaves or if we're honest watching the TV for hours on end because it's too hot or cold!!!
We left with a baby and toddler as I've said and they are so much easier now so life will be very different to two years ago.
OOOH I'm in a right mood now!

quoll Apr 12th 2008 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by del k (Post 6200388)
Husband out last night and his brother told him he thinks we are stupid to be heading back. "Think of the opportunities for the kids". Why do people find it necessary to force their opinions on us? I wouldn't dream of forcing my views on someone else even though I can fully accept and appreciate their reasons for living here and wanting to make it home.
My OH is a strong character and stopped him in his tracks while I on the other hand can see things I will miss here and just don't want to hear any conflicting views,I just want to be left to get on with it as it's hard enough already. I know I want to go home and I know when we get there that I will fell like my old self again and hopefully regain my confidence so wish these people would just be helpful and butt out.
The decision for me to move back is much more about missing out on a life with family and friends. My husband sees Perth as very limiting, geographically and socially. The kids love it but don't all little kids love their life whether they are splashing in puddles, sledging, making sandcastles, kicking up leaves or if we're honest watching the TV for hours on end because it's too hot or cold!!!
We left with a baby and toddler as I've said and they are so much easier now so life will be very different to two years ago.
OOOH I'm in a right mood now!

Hang in there del! I think that "think of the opportunities for the kids" line is a load of b*llocks personally! If it were the bees knees, why is it that Aussie kids cannot wait to leave once they leave school/uni? Personally I think that the UK education system is still ahead of the Aus system but I know people will disagree with that. There is far more to the development of a whole healthy child than a life on the beach (with associated melanoma risks) - having an appreciation of culture (ones own and various others), history and a wide range of personal relationships all contribute. I think my kids would have loved trips to the continent, the wide outdoor experiences of the UK (fell walking, long distance footpaths etc), history on our doorstep and the family/friend relationships that we could have offered them in UK that we could not offer in Aus.

I look at my friends' kids and they have all done just fine. They are all happy, healthy, employed and partnered and their life experiences have probably been broader than my kids had when they were growing up. England didnt do them any harm.

Just ignore the doomsayers and head off in your own direction! Good luck!


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