Cape Blue

I remember thinking the same on the Gib language front. Amusing your comment on Andalucian Spanish - I lived in a Cadiz pueblo blanco for a while and I wasn't even sure it was Spanish being spoken - certainly didn't help me improve mine at all - hasta luego ends up as "a-go"

BristolUK

There's a lot of that sort of thing in the UK...otherwise known as poor use of the language.

Jules Europe

Its commonly known here in Spain that the Spanish spoken in Andulacia is the worst in Spain, parts and ends of words are just chopped off leaving both Spaniard and foreigner baffled Bit like Scouse or Geordie in the UK

Saying that though, Andulacia represents everything that foreigners like about Spain and Cadiz where you were is a nice province.

Jules Europe

I noticed plenty of poor use of the English language in the UK but the Gibraltar thing is something very different.............Its surreal, it has to be heard to be believed They are also some of the strangest people that I have ever met

times up

Sweden, given it's sparsely populated land mass was very generous but they quickly realised that many southern cities and Stockholm in particular were being overrun by immigrants. Their famously generous welfare system, supported by high taxes, does not work well when you add many more claimants but add few to the ranks of those making contributions.

A seemingly forgotten rule of law is that economic refugees, which the vast majority of these people are, are not permitted to stay and should be thrown out. However, the generous legal system has parasitic lawyers who take state money to fight economic refugee cases on the basis that they are really claiming political asylum.

It is not as simple as that. There are gangs of these new EU migrants controlled by organisations akin to the mafia . Then you have the cash workers who make it so attractive that employers take those risks, thus denying UK citizens jobs.

Jules Europe

Greater Stockholm`s immigrant population is 10% whereas greater London`s is 27% so I hardly call Stockholm being overrun by immigrants.

Yes Sweden like most countries in that part of the world has high taxation and once those immigrants are established and working, they will be contributing to the system that has supported them. If these immigrants fail to contribute to the system, there will be less contributions possibly meaning Sweden taking less immigrants in the future, the system largely balances itself out.

Jules Europe

What do you suggest then, Chucking them off the pier? Packing them on boats? Sending them to a place that nobody will ever find them?

Parasitic lawyers are akin to estate agents and will always have to be suffered in one shape or form.

Jules Europe

It is as simple as that and its a case of simple economics and cultural ties, wherever immigrants go they are automatically drawn to their own ethnic group for work, lifestyle etc. As an employer why pay more when somebody can do the same job for a much cheaper price, logical really.

Here in Spain most Brits stick with their own type and often employ the services of other Brits as well..............No different to what goes on with Poles in the UK and Mexicans in the USA.

Cape Blue

You seem to equate immigrants with non-workers, most immigrants work and contribute to the country, asylum seekers are not permitted to work - what else can they do but live on the measly benefits they can get?

I agree that quite probably many are economic refugees - all of their cases should be determined more quickly and if found not to be asylum cases they should be repatriated to their country of origin - if known.

The last point is not really immigrant-specific, most British plumbers etc do some work on the side for cash - therefore undercutting those that don't and not contributing to the UK, this doesn't seem that different to immigrants working for cash and the employers should be prosecuted and the employees to be back-taxed.

rugbymatt

The "post pics of Britain" thread has been closed down so I thought I would put a picture up of the crowded little corner of the UK I live in, sometimes I can hardly move for the sheer weight of traffic................

Jules Europe

Looks like a good place for asylum seekers to pitch up a tent............At least they`ll have nice scenary while they`re waiting for a decision.

rugbymatt

Good luck to them, stories tell of escaping prisoners from the famous prison near here escaping one night and the next morning banging on the door by the morning to be let in..................

elfman

and which part of Norfolk is this?

Jules Europe

And where do you live?

rugbymatt

We moved last month.....................