Future of the NHS
Jun 17th 2014, 5:42 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
Musing on this, as you do late at night, I think I was right with my initial hesitancy to join in the MBTTUK forum. As I said on the 'over 40s' thread, I'm a bit of an interloper in that I'm not 'moving back', I'm just moving.
Any issues/thoughts/questions I have are going to be different to those of British citizens moving back, and my thoughts on accessing the NHS are an example of this.
I think you were a bit harsh with your descriptions of me Editha, but again that's probably just a consequence of me being the proverbial square peg. So I'll scuttle back in me box, and hope that my preciousness, perverseness and silliness will nick off before I emigrate - otherwise I might have a hard time of it.
Any issues/thoughts/questions I have are going to be different to those of British citizens moving back, and my thoughts on accessing the NHS are an example of this.
I think you were a bit harsh with your descriptions of me Editha, but again that's probably just a consequence of me being the proverbial square peg. So I'll scuttle back in me box, and hope that my preciousness, perverseness and silliness will nick off before I emigrate - otherwise I might have a hard time of it.
Please stay.
Jun 17th 2014, 5:50 pm
#167
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Re: Future of the NHS
Musing on this, as you do late at night, I think I was right with my initial hesitancy to join in the MBTTUK forum. As I said on the 'over 40s' thread, I'm a bit of an interloper in that I'm not 'moving back', I'm just moving.
Any issues/thoughts/questions I have are going to be different to those of British citizens moving back, and my thoughts on accessing the NHS are an example of this.
I think you were a bit harsh with your descriptions of me Editha, but again that's probably just a consequence of me being the proverbial square peg. So I'll scuttle back in me box, and hope that my preciousness, perverseness and silliness will nick off before I emigrate - otherwise I might have a hard time of it.
Any issues/thoughts/questions I have are going to be different to those of British citizens moving back, and my thoughts on accessing the NHS are an example of this.
I think you were a bit harsh with your descriptions of me Editha, but again that's probably just a consequence of me being the proverbial square peg. So I'll scuttle back in me box, and hope that my preciousness, perverseness and silliness will nick off before I emigrate - otherwise I might have a hard time of it.
'Silly' isn't even on the scale. 
Jun 17th 2014, 6:09 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
SOS, please don't scuttle back into your box! I am sure others will agree with me that you are a valuable member of this forum and this thread. Different views and opinions are what make for lively discussion.
Jun 17th 2014, 6:32 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
Regardless of the results of the consultation, I'm not aware of any proposals to bring in charges for British Citizens. I'd be interested in where you read this.
The Immigration Act 2014 has received royal assent and can no longer be amended. It contains no provision which would allow charging of British Citizens, so that would require fresh legislation. There was nothing about it in the Queen's Speech either so it isn't going to happen during this Parliament, which means not before the next General Election.
The Immigration Act 2014 has received royal assent and can no longer be amended. It contains no provision which would allow charging of British Citizens, so that would require fresh legislation. There was nothing about it in the Queen's Speech either so it isn't going to happen during this Parliament, which means not before the next General Election.
The British Citizens are expat British Citizens - not ordinarily resident ones.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...nsultation.pdf
items 98 and 99 on page 24. Jury is still OUT.
NB - It wasn't charging before, it was NOT charging when in fact they should have been charged.
Last edited by Pistolpete2; Jun 17th 2014 at 8:28 pm. Reason: NB - It wasn't charging, it was NOT charging when in fact they should have been charged.
Jun 17th 2014, 6:44 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
Musing on this, as you do late at night, I think I was right with my initial hesitancy to join in the MBTTUK forum. As I said on the 'over 40s' thread, I'm a bit of an interloper in that I'm not 'moving back', I'm just moving.
Any issues/thoughts/questions I have are going to be different to those of British citizens moving back, and my thoughts on accessing the NHS are an example of this.
I think you were a bit harsh with your descriptions of me Editha, but again that's probably just a consequence of me being the proverbial square peg. So I'll scuttle back in me box, and hope that my preciousness, perverseness and silliness will nick off before I emigrate - otherwise I might have a hard time of it.
Any issues/thoughts/questions I have are going to be different to those of British citizens moving back, and my thoughts on accessing the NHS are an example of this.
I think you were a bit harsh with your descriptions of me Editha, but again that's probably just a consequence of me being the proverbial square peg. So I'll scuttle back in me box, and hope that my preciousness, perverseness and silliness will nick off before I emigrate - otherwise I might have a hard time of it.
Last edited by Jerseygirl; Jun 17th 2014 at 6:51 pm.
Jun 17th 2014, 7:44 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
PLEASE!!!!!!
Jun 18th 2014, 12:35 am
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Jun 18th 2014, 1:43 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
I was checking the cost of prescriptions yesterday. £8 each and if you need more than one regularly it need only cost an extra 60p or so with a pre-payment cert.
On top of that I remember reading that most prescriptions (not most people) are free anyway.
In Canada there's no subsidy on prescriptions outside of hospital.
So how the hell does Canada spend 50% more per head than the UK? Where's it all going?
And if that £2k per head includes NHS dentistry as well, it's even more astonishing.
On top of that I remember reading that most prescriptions (not most people) are free anyway.
In Canada there's no subsidy on prescriptions outside of hospital.
So how the hell does Canada spend 50% more per head than the UK? Where's it all going?
And if that £2k per head includes NHS dentistry as well, it's even more astonishing.
Last edited by BristolUK; Jun 18th 2014 at 1:46 pm.
Jun 18th 2014, 1:59 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
I was checking the cost of prescriptions yesterday. £8 each and if you need more than one regularly it need only cost an extra 60p or so with a pre-payment cert.
On top of that I remember reading that most prescriptions (not most people) are free anyway.
In Canada there's no subsidy on prescriptions outside of hospital.
So how the hell does Canada spend 50% more per head than the UK? Where's it all going?
And if that £2k per head includes NHS dentistry as well, it's even more astonishing.
On top of that I remember reading that most prescriptions (not most people) are free anyway.
In Canada there's no subsidy on prescriptions outside of hospital.
So how the hell does Canada spend 50% more per head than the UK? Where's it all going?
And if that £2k per head includes NHS dentistry as well, it's even more astonishing.
Jun 18th 2014, 2:45 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
The argument I hear in the US is that it subsidises the cost of drugs for the rest of the world and that others are leeching off drug research done in the US. My response is "more fool it". Medicare - healthcare for the over 65's - is actually banned from negotiating drug discounts. How stupid is that?
Jun 18th 2014, 2:47 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
I don't know about Canada but the US spends 4to 5% of its GDP on health care administration.
The argument I hear in the US is that it subsidises the cost of drugs for the rest of the world and that others are leeching off drug research done in the US. My response is "more fool it". Medicare - healthcare for the over 65's - is actually banned from negotiating drug discounts. How stupid is that?
The argument I hear in the US is that it subsidises the cost of drugs for the rest of the world and that others are leeching off drug research done in the US. My response is "more fool it". Medicare - healthcare for the over 65's - is actually banned from negotiating drug discounts. How stupid is that?
Jun 18th 2014, 3:11 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
I'll bet the same cannot be said of DWP these days!!
But the drugs thing really gets me. Employers employ staff to administer the benefits packages for employees. Insurance companies have a prescriptions wing. Pharmacies have an involvement. There's stuff goes between employer, insurers,pharmacies and doctors.
And if someone uses Province schemes there's a whole other layer.
Jun 18th 2014, 3:47 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
NHS Provides the 'Best Healthcare in World', says Commonwealth Fund Report
Its a bit hard to disagree although I am sure some will
Its a bit hard to disagree although I am sure some will
Jun 18th 2014, 11:44 pm
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Re: Future of the NHS
NHS Provides the 'Best Healthcare in World', says Commonwealth Fund Report
Its a bit hard to disagree although I am sure some will
Its a bit hard to disagree although I am sure some will