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brissybee Jan 23rd 2014 11:05 pm

Electricity Cost
 
Having just received our latest electricity bill (almost $900 for just over a quarter :ohmy:) I am hoping somebody might have some good news about the comparative cost of electricity in the UK?

I've heard it is expensive there... but surely it can't be this bad, can it? :unsure:

christmasoompa Jan 23rd 2014 11:17 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 
Depends on the size of house etc, what sort of thing are you looking at?

If it helps, in our last house (a fairly small 1970's 4 bed), we paid approx. £100 a month for gas and electricity, but in this house (4500 sq ft old house with minimal insultation, all electric because not on mains gas, running an electric Aga and underfloor heating throughout) we pay £390 a month.

HTH.

not2old Jan 24th 2014 12:50 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 
have you looked at this?

https://www.comparethemarket.com/energy/

chris955 Jan 24th 2014 12:51 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 
Its funny we were told electricity was expensive here compared to Australia, we pay 11p a kwh and used to pay more than that in Australia. We pay £115 a month direct debit for gas and electricity and when the bill comes in we usually only have to pay a few quid or we are in credit.

dunroving Jan 24th 2014 12:54 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 
£111 pcm electric and gas for a 3 BR semi

not2old Jan 24th 2014 2:45 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 
I was always concerned that utility prices in the UK would be double what they are here in Toronto. Although the per Kwh is less here the monthly bills are higher due to the extreme weather conditions of +30C in the Summer & -30C in the winter

Our combined Gas & Lecky flat across 12 months for 2014 (incl tx) is ~$240/mth (£141) on top of that our water/sewage is running average $60/mth (£35) and council property taxes $420/mth (£247)

Fixed costs £423/mth - thats before we eat or do anything else

Vexcore Jan 24th 2014 11:15 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 
in UK, depends on house size etc... but i remember those days i get like 200 or 400 a month.... i was like no no no no


Then i turned to a Key meter (no problems)

not2old Jan 24th 2014 11:59 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by Vexcore (Post 11095996)
in UK, depends on house size etc.
Then i turned to a Key meter (no problems)

I had to look that up

http://www.ukpower.co.uk/home_energy...s#.UuOzPNIo4rg

is it possible to lower your bill from the lowest standard 'bill by the month/quarter' provider to using pre-paid meters. If so where would the savings be & why?

Or is there a combination of specific types of energy saving pre-paid meters.

On the monthly/quarterly bills are there service or other charges that would not be there on a pre-paid card meter

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 12:05 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by Vexcore (Post 11095996)
in UK, depends on house size etc... but i remember those days i get like 200 or 400 a month.... i was like no no no no

I have no idea what you just said there :D

not2old Jan 25th 2014 12:08 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096037)
I have no idea what you just said there :D

lost in translation Chris

http://www.britishgas.co.uk/help-and...XI=4,CASE=1473

I'd never heard of a key meter. Or I figured it was about prepayment meters

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 12:10 am

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11096046)
lost in translation Chris

http://www.britishgas.co.uk/help-and...XI=4,CASE=1473

I'd never heard of a key meter. Or I figured it was about prepayment meters

You just linked back to this thread.

not2old Jan 25th 2014 12:12 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096049)
You just linked back to this thread.

:thumbsup:

:D:D;)

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 12:28 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 
Are you posting from the pub? :D

old.sparkles Jan 25th 2014 12:33 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096049)
You just linked back to this thread.

The link didn't come back to this thread - it went to a page about obtaining a key to obtain access to a meter cabinet.

My understanding of key meters are that they are prepaid meters - the per kWh cost is likely greater, but you wouldn't be able to run up large bills without having the money to pay for it so some people use it to budget.

There are also devices you can get to monitor your electricity usage and become energy wise :)

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 12:35 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11096080)
The link didn't come back to this thread - it went to a page about obtaining a key to obtain access to a meter cabinet.

My understanding of key meters are that they are prepaid meters - the per kWh cost is likely greater, but you wouldn't be able to run up large bills without having the money to pay for it so some people use it to budget.

There are also devices you can get to monitor your electricity usage and become energy wise :)

Thats weird, I click on it and it comes back to this thread :confused:

old.sparkles Jan 25th 2014 12:37 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096082)
Thats weird, I click on it and it comes back to this thread :confused:

It's usually me who has those sort of problems :lol:

Try again - http://www.britishgas.co.uk/help-and...XI=4,CASE=1473

dunroving Jan 25th 2014 12:46 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11096080)
The link didn't come back to this thread - it went to a page about obtaining a key to obtain access to a meter cabinet.

My understanding of key meters are that they are prepaid meters - the per kWh cost is likely greater, but you wouldn't be able to run up large bills without having the money to pay for it so some people use it to budget.

There are also devices you can get to monitor your electricity usage and become energy wise :)

Same here.

Vexcore Jan 25th 2014 12:50 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096037)
I have no idea what you just said there :D

You been drinking again? or was it me? :huh:

Anyway...

As for the 'key meter... i use it to be on a budget so i wouldn't need to worry about direct debits bouncing... or unwanted debts blah blah

As the others have said its mostly used for 'budget'

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 1:36 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by Vexcore (Post 11096103)
You been drinking again? or was it me? :huh:

It was just this really 'depends on house size etc... but i remember those days i get like 200 or 400 a month.... i was like no no no no'

Vexcore Jan 25th 2014 1:43 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096156)
It was just this really 'depends on house size etc... but i remember those days i get like 200 or 400 a month.... i was like no no no no'


oh lol im talking about my past bill 300/400 a month that shit was insane.

now i just slap in 40 on the meter (not sure why it was that high in the past) - maybe someone leeching my electric lol

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 2:47 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by Vexcore (Post 11096168)
oh lol im talking about my past bill 300/400 a month that shit was insane.

now i just slap in 40 on the meter (not sure why it was that high in the past) - maybe someone leeching my electric lol

Right, I'm with you. £300-400 a month is just madness unless you lived in a Manor house or grew indoor crops :lol:;)

holly_1948 Jan 25th 2014 4:15 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by brissybee (Post 11094418)
Having just received our latest electricity bill (almost $900 for just over a quarter :ohmy:) I am hoping somebody might have some good news about the comparative cost of electricity in the UK?
I've heard it is expensive there... but surely it can't be this bad, can it? :unsure:

How much are your paying per kWh ?

Vexcore Jan 25th 2014 1:45 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096215)
Right, I'm with you. £300-400 a month is just madness unless you lived in a Manor house or grew indoor crops :lol:;)


Well i was running 4 servers in the hosue on 24/7 maybe that could be the issue? lol

chris955 Jan 25th 2014 5:59 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by Vexcore (Post 11096913)
Well i was running 4 servers in the hosue on 24/7 maybe that could be the issue? lol

You would have been better off with the indoor crops.

Pulaski Jan 27th 2014 8:04 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11096215)
Right, I'm with you. £300-400 a month is just madness unless you lived in a Manor house or grew indoor crops.

I lived in a 700sqft terrace house in London in the late 90's when electricity was being deregulated. The heating, cooker, and water heater were gas, electricity was for lighting, laundry, the fridge, TV, hifi, and computer. The loft had about a foot of insulation in it, two layers rolled out - I put it in myself.

A salesman knocked on the door to tell me I could save 10% on my power bill, by switching to another supplier. I told him I doubted it. He told me that a house of my size had an average bill of £400/yr, and I could save £40. I told him my bill was less than £10/ mth, and I wasn't interested in switching to save £10 a year! :lol:

orly Jan 28th 2014 3:19 am

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11099700)
I lived in a 700sqft terrace house in London in the late 90's when electricity was being deregulated. The heating, cooker, and water heater were gas, electricity was for lighting, laundry, the fridge, TV, hifi, and computer. The loft had about a foot of insulation in it, two layers rolled out - I put it in myself.

A salesman knocked on the door to tell me I could save 10% on my power bill, by switching to another supplier. I told him I doubted it. He told me that a house of my size had an average bill of £400/yr, and I could save £40. I told him my bill was less than £10/ mth, and I wasn't interested in switching to save £10 a year! :lol:

Guess I'm doing alright then at 2014 Canadian prices to be paying about $30/mth in a 1000 sq ft apartment at the moment!

alfista1 Feb 14th 2014 12:06 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 
That comparative link is great! thanks.

I chose 3-4 beds, tropical (wife likes that), gas and electricity.
87 pounds a month!!!!:D:D

I'm in a developing country earning much less than what I'd earn in the UK and we pay this amount just for electricity! More when its cold and the heating is on half the day.

1000 pounds a year sounds like a good deal to me.

old.sparkles Feb 14th 2014 12:10 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by alfista1 (Post 11130518)
That comparative link is great! thanks.

I chose 3-4 beds, tropical (wife likes that), gas and electricity.
87 pounds a month!!!!:D:D

I'm in a developing country earning much less than what I'd earn in the UK and we pay this amount just for electricity! More when its cold and the heating is on half the day.

1000 pounds a year sounds like a good deal to me.

I would really question those figures - maybe £87 week if you're lucky. A 3 bed house, with good insulation (loft, cavity wall, double glazing) and kept pretty cool (by which my daughter would say icebox) was more than that a month.

alfista1 Feb 14th 2014 12:14 pm

Re: Electricity Cost
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11130520)
I would really question those figures - maybe £87 week if you're lucky. A 3 bed house, with good insulation (loft, cavity wall, double glazing) and kept pretty cool (by which my daughter would say icebox) was more than that a month.

oh that's not good to hear. Must ask my parents. they have a 4 bed house and have the gas heating on 24/7 in the winter.
double glazed with good insulation etc. don't think they are paying more than 130 a month

old.sparkles Feb 14th 2014 1:28 pm

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Originally Posted by alfista1 (Post 11130526)
oh that's not good to hear. Must ask my parents. they have a 4 bed house and have the gas heating on 24/7 in the winter.
double glazed with good insulation etc. don't think they are paying more than 130 a month

For the gas only or both? Even if it's gas only that's cheap :)

chris955 Feb 14th 2014 7:40 pm

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We pay around £130 a month direct debit and dont usually have to pay much when the bill comes in. This is a 400 year old house with minimal insulation but I use quite a bit of electricity for my hobby.


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