Panhandle

1066 was the date of the last successful foreign invasion of the british mainland, well so the history book would tell! Looking up and down my high street all I see is shisha bars, polski cleps, aljazera supermarket, patels newsagents, santanda bank, curry in a hurry, the list is endless!
Ladies wearing what look like cotton black bin liners, men with look alike beards, people speaking every language except english!
London bus drivers who cannot or do not want to speak english, but know how to be rude to fare paying customers.
For a country that were named a nation of shop keepers I wonder who is keeping the shop!
The scum of Europe are already on our shores bleeding our benefit system dry, and now more scum is planning to come here.

This will do wonders for the crime rate, Ive done some research on nationalities in British prisons

1. Jamaica 963
2. Nigeria 752
3. Irish republic 647
4. Vietnam 620
5. Poland 617
6. China 472
7. Somalia 463
8. Pakistan 445
9. India 368
10. Romania 357
11. Lithuania 330
12. Iraq 262
13. Iran 244
14. Portugal 233
15. Bangladesh 215
16. Zimbabwe 209
17. Turkey 164
18. France 163
19. Albania 162
20. Ghana 154


These are just the ones who got banged up, what about the thousands that they dont lock up eh!

Even if we do pull out of the EU how will we clear up this mess?

For those of you who cannot understand why getting your spouse a visa is so tough, just trawl around the uk visa forums and you will be enlightened to the abuse that is really going on, these people are like leeches, its time to stop being one of the PC brigade and start talking to your local MP etc, before your street losses its dignity.

Shard

Good point.

Shard

Ah that's a different story. So it's not that the US spouse can't emigrate to Britain without £18K, it's that she needs a visa prior to entry. That seems pretty standard. That's why we have "countries" so that we can control the number of outsiders who want to come in. It's a matter of patience not $$$.

dunroving

It's having two bad knock-on effects:

1) Student visas are displacing space allocations for true immigrants (people who want to settle in the UK at least in the medium-term in order to work).

2) It is really hurting UK higher education. International students a) bring in more money for fees, b) contribute to intellectual development and global cultural awareness of UK students, and c) create future international business opportunities for UK PLC when they return to their countries. Reducing international student numbers and/or making it insanely complicated to be an international student (which the IBS does) is not helpful to the UK.

dunroving

No, I think it's that she can't get a visa without sufficent money/income, leading to her having to be apart from her husband for several months while he works and/or saves up, and creating an additional financial burden that makes it even harder to save up the necessary money or show financial means.

It creates a Catch-22 situation and does not illustrate David Cameron's supposed concern for families.

dunroving

By the way, I meant IPBS (Imiigration Points-Based System) not IBS (Irritable Bowel Sydnrome) - though I'm sure if you were an expat struggling to get your spouse into the country, it would aggravate your IBS!

nun

You left out the far greater numbers of Scots, Welsh and English in gaol. Given your reasoning they are a bigger problem.

Maltoo

To get the Visa to immigrate you have to have the £18K if you have a job or £62,300 without a job and that is just for the spouse if your family has any children that the UK partner is not the biological parent of then the amount goes up!

nun

I don't appreciate the prejudiced tone of the title to this thread, but the point about the UK discriminating against UK citizens with non-EEA spouses is a good one. UK citizens are now also suffering the consequences of the UK's growing Xenophobia. It's bad when that affects any nationality, and ironic when it's a UK citizen.

Maltoo

just wanted to add if getting the Visa even with the monetary requirement not an issue is anything like renewing your expired UK passport, God help us all!

I give up UK consulate please just send my OH his passport!

Panhandle

Yes true, there are lots of british in british jails, every country on earth has its fair share, the way the EU works now, any body with an EU passport can walk straight through our borders, not real checks if any are made.
Whats the point in having a border control?
Look around the country open your eyes to what is really happening, if you cant see then make an appointment with your local optician ASAP!

dunroving

If more of our own citizens were prepared to work hard for a living, I think that immigration would be less of a "problem".

Shard

Do you mean you have to have 18K cash, even if you're working and sponsor the spouse? Is that an absolute requirement?

Panhandle

Yes so true, although so many brits tend to move overseas I guess the place would feel a little empty without our former colonial citz.

dunroving

Sort of, but not exactly. It's all described in this thread.

Essentially, you can not bring a "non-EU" spouse to live in the UK without meeting financial restrictions that for many people are not easy to meet. It also focuses on cash (job earnings and savings) and ignores things like home ownership (which obviously reduces necessary living expenses), retirement status and other common-sense indicators of faithful intent (such as being married for 20 years!)