Irish Passport
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Irish Passport
I have been told that as I have an Irish grandfather I am eligible for an Irish Passport. Like many others I am trying to hedge my future as Brexit looms, and I want to continue to be recognised as European (even though I live in Hong Kong, for now...).
Anyway, I contacted my sister who is the "gate keeper" of family documents and on asking for a copy of my mother's birth certificate - and on giving the reasons why, she informed me that my grandfather's name does not appear on my mother's birth certificate, and that no one in the family know why this is.
My mother was the eldest of five children, and when you compare them altogether it's abundantly clear to see that they all share the same family features. My only guess on why my grandfather's name does not appear on my Mum's birth certificate is that my Mum was born out of wedlock, and so there is a stigma there, given that this was in about 1922, when times were different.
Is there any other way that I can prove that my grandfather was who he says he was and that I can apply for an Irish passport?
Thanks in advance of any replies,
Richard
Anyway, I contacted my sister who is the "gate keeper" of family documents and on asking for a copy of my mother's birth certificate - and on giving the reasons why, she informed me that my grandfather's name does not appear on my mother's birth certificate, and that no one in the family know why this is.
My mother was the eldest of five children, and when you compare them altogether it's abundantly clear to see that they all share the same family features. My only guess on why my grandfather's name does not appear on my Mum's birth certificate is that my Mum was born out of wedlock, and so there is a stigma there, given that this was in about 1922, when times were different.
Is there any other way that I can prove that my grandfather was who he says he was and that I can apply for an Irish passport?
Thanks in advance of any replies,
Richard
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Re: Irish Passport
I have been told that as I have an Irish grandfather I am eligible for an Irish Passport. Like many others I am trying to hedge my future as Brexit looms, and I want to continue to be recognised as European (even though I live in Hong Kong, for now...).
Anyway, I contacted my sister who is the "gate keeper" of family documents and on asking for a copy of my mother's birth certificate - and on giving the reasons why, she informed me that my grandfather's name does not appear on my mother's birth certificate, and that no one in the family know why this is.
My mother was the eldest of five children, and when you compare them altogether it's abundantly clear to see that they all share the same family features. My only guess on why my grandfather's name does not appear on my Mum's birth certificate is that my Mum was born out of wedlock, and so there is a stigma there, given that this was in about 1922, when times were different.
Is there any other way that I can prove that my grandfather was who he says he was and that I can apply for an Irish passport?
Thanks in advance of any replies,
Richard
Anyway, I contacted my sister who is the "gate keeper" of family documents and on asking for a copy of my mother's birth certificate - and on giving the reasons why, she informed me that my grandfather's name does not appear on my mother's birth certificate, and that no one in the family know why this is.
My mother was the eldest of five children, and when you compare them altogether it's abundantly clear to see that they all share the same family features. My only guess on why my grandfather's name does not appear on my Mum's birth certificate is that my Mum was born out of wedlock, and so there is a stigma there, given that this was in about 1922, when times were different.
Is there any other way that I can prove that my grandfather was who he says he was and that I can apply for an Irish passport?
Thanks in advance of any replies,
Richard
Registering a foreign birth
At present, it takes between 9 to 12 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application. However, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration, it may take up to 12 months to process an application. If you are an expectant parent applying to be entered on the Foreign Birth Register, you should mark this clearly on your application.Your birth can be entered on the Foreign Births Register if you are eligible to become an Irish citizen. Find out what you need to do before you begin your online application.
https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/born-...foreign-birth/Adult applicant applying on the basis of an Irish born Grandparent
Documents relating to the applicant (unless stated, originals must be submitted):
- Completed, signed and witnessed application form (see list of witnesses at 1 above)
- Original civil birth certificate (showing parental details)
- Original civil marriage certificate (if applicable) OR other change of name document (if applicable)
- Photocopy of current state-issued ID document (i.e. passport, drivers licence, national identity card) certified as a true copy of the original by application form witness
- 2 separate original proofs of address
- 4 colour photographs (2 of which to be witnessed) – do not attach these to the application form
- Original civil birth certificate of Irish citizen parent (showing parental details)
- Original civil marriage certificate of Irish citizen parent (if applicable) OR other change of name document (if applicable)
- Photocopy of current state-issued ID document (i.e. passport, drivers licence, national identity card) certified as a true copy of the original by a professional from the list of witnesses OR original civil death certificate (if applicable)
- Original civil birth certificate of Irish born grandparent (showing parental details)
- Original civil marriage certificate of Irish born grandparent (if applicable) OR other change of name document (if applicable)
- Photocopy of current state-issued ID document (i.e. passport, drivers licence, national identity card) certified as a true copy of the original by a professional from the list of witnesses OR original civil death certificate (if applicable)
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Re: Irish Passport
I have been told that as I have an Irish grandfather I am eligible for an Irish Passport. Like many others I am trying to hedge my future as Brexit looms, and I want to continue to be recognised as European (even though I live in Hong Kong, for now...).
Anyway, I contacted my sister who is the "gate keeper" of family documents and on asking for a copy of my mother's birth certificate - and on giving the reasons why, she informed me that my grandfather's name does not appear on my mother's birth certificate, and that no one in the family know why this is.
My mother was the eldest of five children, and when you compare them altogether it's abundantly clear to see that they all share the same family features. My only guess on why my grandfather's name does not appear on my Mum's birth certificate is that my Mum was born out of wedlock, and so there is a stigma there, given that this was in about 1922, when times were different.
Is there any other way that I can prove that my grandfather was who he says he was and that I can apply for an Irish passport?
Thanks in advance of any replies,
Richard
Anyway, I contacted my sister who is the "gate keeper" of family documents and on asking for a copy of my mother's birth certificate - and on giving the reasons why, she informed me that my grandfather's name does not appear on my mother's birth certificate, and that no one in the family know why this is.
My mother was the eldest of five children, and when you compare them altogether it's abundantly clear to see that they all share the same family features. My only guess on why my grandfather's name does not appear on my Mum's birth certificate is that my Mum was born out of wedlock, and so there is a stigma there, given that this was in about 1922, when times were different.
Is there any other way that I can prove that my grandfather was who he says he was and that I can apply for an Irish passport?
Thanks in advance of any replies,
Richard
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Re: Irish Passport
I know nothing about legalities on this subject but wondered whether your grandfather is named on any other documents. Did he marry your mothers mother at a later date, is he named on the other children´s birth certificates so that you can prove a link, is he named on your mothers wedding certificate.
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My mother was born in England. My grandfather was from a family of cattle dealers in County Cork, and was sent to England to further the business by selling Irish cattle in England. He obviously met my mother then, and things developed into a new family, although without all of the necessary paperwork we take for granted today.
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My mother was born in England. My grandfather was from a family of cattle dealers in County Cork, and was sent to England to further the business by selling Irish cattle in England. He obviously met my mother then, and things developed into a new family, although without all of the necessary paperwork we take for granted today.
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Re: Irish Passport
I later found that there had been a cyber attack on the health service computer system and this had affected the Central Register Office computer systems also, which caused further delay. I phoned the register office and they were very helpful although their computer system was still not fully resolved.
All this in the midst of disruption caused due to Covid.
Yes it would do you no harm to attempt to contact them now by phone and email.
Good luck!
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Re: Irish Passport
Rang their call centre the other day but they can only provide general information and said not to worry as they are only just getting round to looking at applications from about the time I applied!
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Two years two months now and not a dickie bird from the Register of Foreign Births.
Rang their call centre the other day but they can only provide general information and said not to worry as they are only just getting round to looking at applications from about the time I applied!
Rang their call centre the other day but they can only provide general information and said not to worry as they are only just getting round to looking at applications from about the time I applied!