Cities in U.S. notorious for crime?
Oct 18th 2002, 1:27 am
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Jon Niederhaus wrote:
> We are a young married Swedish couple, coming to the states for the
> first time, one month. Which are cities most to avoid for crime?
> We know about gangs in Los Angeles and also bad crime in Washinton D.C.
None that come to mind. Its no different than in Stockholm or any other
major European cities. If crime concerns you, practice some common sense
behavior. Stay out of dark lonely alleys, do not display lots of cash
around or fancy jewelry, know where you are going before you get
started, and do not buy or sell illegal drugs. If you practice those
simple bits of behavior, your chances of being a crime victim anywhere
in the United States are incredibly slim.
Jon Niederhaus wrote:
> We are a young married Swedish couple, coming to the states for the
> first time, one month. Which are cities most to avoid for crime?
> We know about gangs in Los Angeles and also bad crime in Washinton D.C.
None that come to mind. Its no different than in Stockholm or any other
major European cities. If crime concerns you, practice some common sense
behavior. Stay out of dark lonely alleys, do not display lots of cash
around or fancy jewelry, know where you are going before you get
started, and do not buy or sell illegal drugs. If you practice those
simple bits of behavior, your chances of being a crime victim anywhere
in the United States are incredibly slim.
Oct 18th 2002, 5:29 am
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Tjena Jon och fru
There's 'gangs' all over the world - also in Sweden you know. Use common
sense - go where YOU want to go. The cities are big you know - you don't
walk out from the airport and straight into violence ;-)
Enjoy,
Ox
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> We are a young married Swedish couple, coming to the states for the
> first time, one month. Which are cities most to avoid for crime?
> We know about gangs in Los Angeles and also bad crime in Washinton D.C.
> Jon
There's 'gangs' all over the world - also in Sweden you know. Use common
sense - go where YOU want to go. The cities are big you know - you don't
walk out from the airport and straight into violence ;-)
Enjoy,
Ox
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> We are a young married Swedish couple, coming to the states for the
> first time, one month. Which are cities most to avoid for crime?
> We know about gangs in Los Angeles and also bad crime in Washinton D.C.
> Jon
Oct 18th 2002, 10:14 am
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[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> South of Market and west of Castro is Diamond Heights, which is one of the
> nicer residential neighborhoods in [San Francisco]. I couldn't imagine
> anything to worry about here.
You're right about Diamond Heights, Miguel, but it's not where you say
it is. Nevertheless, I live South of Market Street but not in the
neighborhood so named. And I live West of Castro Street but not where
tourists are likely to visit. There is no part of San Francisco that I
do not go several times each year. I don't feel unsafe anywhere.
My first answer to the original question is: Stay home!
My second answer to the original quesiton is: Gary, Indiana, currently
the murder capital of the USA.
My third answer to the original question has already been stated by
many others: Crime is everywhere including the poster's home town.
To the original poster: You might find the following of interest:
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nk.com/?T1E05289
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> South of Market and west of Castro is Diamond Heights, which is one of the
> nicer residential neighborhoods in [San Francisco]. I couldn't imagine
> anything to worry about here.
You're right about Diamond Heights, Miguel, but it's not where you say
it is. Nevertheless, I live South of Market Street but not in the
neighborhood so named. And I live West of Castro Street but not where
tourists are likely to visit. There is no part of San Francisco that I
do not go several times each year. I don't feel unsafe anywhere.
My first answer to the original question is: Stay home!
My second answer to the original quesiton is: Gary, Indiana, currently
the murder capital of the USA.
My third answer to the original question has already been stated by
many others: Crime is everywhere including the poster's home town.
To the original poster: You might find the following of interest:
VIGNETTES, 2001 http://makeashorterli-
nk.com/?T1E05289
«¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤- ¦ -¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤-¤»
ICONO CLAST: A San Franciscan in 47.335 mile² San Francisco
http://geocities.com/dancefest/
IClast at SFbay Net
Oct 18th 2002, 12:36 pm
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Not the Karl Orff wrote:
> There are certain areas of various cities that you really don't want to
> go to. Cities have their safe and unsafe areas.
> In New York, it's (or used to be) generally Manhattan north of 96th
> avenue (lower on the west side)
This is very out of date. The upper west side, at least as far as 120th
St. Has been rejuvenated and is now lively at night, with lots of
restaurants and people walking around.
Barbara
> There are certain areas of various cities that you really don't want to
> go to. Cities have their safe and unsafe areas.
> In New York, it's (or used to be) generally Manhattan north of 96th
> avenue (lower on the west side)
This is very out of date. The upper west side, at least as far as 120th
St. Has been rejuvenated and is now lively at night, with lots of
restaurants and people walking around.
Barbara
Oct 18th 2002, 1:30 pm
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:36:25 +0200, Barbara Vaughan
wrote:
>Not the Karl Orff wrote:
>> There are certain areas of various cities that you really don't want to
>> go to. Cities have their safe and unsafe areas.
>> In New York, it's (or used to be) generally Manhattan north of 96th
>> avenue (lower on the west side)
>This is very out of date. The upper west side, at least as far as 120th
>St. Has been rejuvenated and is now lively at night, with lots of
>restaurants and people walking around.
>Barbara
I once lived on W. 92nd Street 17 years ago and it was out of date
even then.
wrote:
>Not the Karl Orff wrote:
>> There are certain areas of various cities that you really don't want to
>> go to. Cities have their safe and unsafe areas.
>> In New York, it's (or used to be) generally Manhattan north of 96th
>> avenue (lower on the west side)
>This is very out of date. The upper west side, at least as far as 120th
>St. Has been rejuvenated and is now lively at night, with lots of
>restaurants and people walking around.
>Barbara
I once lived on W. 92nd Street 17 years ago and it was out of date
even then.
Oct 18th 2002, 5:40 pm
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Icono Clast wrote:
> [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> South of Market and west of Castro is Diamond Heights, which is one of the
>> nicer residential neighborhoods in [San Francisco]. I couldn't imagine
>> anything to worry about here.
> You're right about Diamond Heights, Miguel, but it's not where you say
> it is.
I've resorted to (horror!) the MUNI map and that's where they have it.
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> [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> South of Market and west of Castro is Diamond Heights, which is one of the
>> nicer residential neighborhoods in [San Francisco]. I couldn't imagine
>> anything to worry about here.
> You're right about Diamond Heights, Miguel, but it's not where you say
> it is.
I've resorted to (horror!) the MUNI map and that's where they have it.
miguel
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Oct 18th 2002, 7:15 pm
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Rita wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:36:25 +0200, Barbara Vaughan
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Not the Karl Orff wrote:
> >
> >> There are certain areas of various cities that you really don't want to
> >> go to. Cities have their safe and unsafe areas.
> >>
> >> In New York, it's (or used to be) generally Manhattan north of 96th
> >> avenue (lower on the west side)
> >
> >This is very out of date. The upper west side, at least as far as 120th
> >St. Has been rejuvenated and is now lively at night, with lots of
> >restaurants and people walking around.
> >
> >Barbara
> I once lived on W. 92nd Street 17 years ago and it was out of date
> even then.
I lived on W. 103rd St. in the late 60's and it was certainly gritty
then. I've watched the area go through a complete transformation. It
certainly looks more respectable now, but I bet you can't find a cheap
apartment there anymore.
Barbara
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:36:25 +0200, Barbara Vaughan
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Not the Karl Orff wrote:
> >
> >> There are certain areas of various cities that you really don't want to
> >> go to. Cities have their safe and unsafe areas.
> >>
> >> In New York, it's (or used to be) generally Manhattan north of 96th
> >> avenue (lower on the west side)
> >
> >This is very out of date. The upper west side, at least as far as 120th
> >St. Has been rejuvenated and is now lively at night, with lots of
> >restaurants and people walking around.
> >
> >Barbara
> I once lived on W. 92nd Street 17 years ago and it was out of date
> even then.
I lived on W. 103rd St. in the late 60's and it was certainly gritty
then. I've watched the area go through a complete transformation. It
certainly looks more respectable now, but I bet you can't find a cheap
apartment there anymore.
Barbara
Oct 20th 2002, 6:58 am
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If you come to Los Angeles, spend a day in a place called Huntington
Library near Pasadena. Brig a camera. There are beautiful gardens, the
library and the art collection. The advantage of going to Los Angeles at
this time of the year is that you don't need to worry about cold weater.
It never snows here (except in the mountains surrounding the city). I
met several foreigners who visited Los Angeles and all enjoyed their
stay here. Don't worry about gangs. I lived here since 1973 and haven't
seen one yet. I was born and raised in Europe and there are places in
Europe I would rather avoid. I don't know where this nonsense about LA
gangs originate - perhaps people confuse movies with the real life. If
you decide to come here, ask for advice on where to stay. Los Angeles is
a very large city.
Jon Niederhaus wrote:
> We are a young married Swedish couple, coming to the states for the
> first time, one month. Which are cities most to avoid for crime?
> We know about gangs in Los Angeles and also bad crime in Washinton D.C.
> Jon
Library near Pasadena. Brig a camera. There are beautiful gardens, the
library and the art collection. The advantage of going to Los Angeles at
this time of the year is that you don't need to worry about cold weater.
It never snows here (except in the mountains surrounding the city). I
met several foreigners who visited Los Angeles and all enjoyed their
stay here. Don't worry about gangs. I lived here since 1973 and haven't
seen one yet. I was born and raised in Europe and there are places in
Europe I would rather avoid. I don't know where this nonsense about LA
gangs originate - perhaps people confuse movies with the real life. If
you decide to come here, ask for advice on where to stay. Los Angeles is
a very large city.
Jon Niederhaus wrote:
> We are a young married Swedish couple, coming to the states for the
> first time, one month. Which are cities most to avoid for crime?
> We know about gangs in Los Angeles and also bad crime in Washinton D.C.
> Jon
Oct 20th 2002, 8:49 am
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L wrote in article ...
> If you come to Los Angeles, spend a day in a place called Huntington
> Library near Pasadena. Brig a camera. There are beautiful gardens, the
> library and the art collection. The advantage of going to Los Angeles at
> this time of the year is that you don't need to worry about cold weater.
> It never snows here (except in the mountains surrounding the city). I
> met several foreigners who visited Los Angeles and all enjoyed their
> stay here. Don't worry about gangs. I lived here since 1973 and haven't
> seen one yet. I was born and raised in Europe and there are places in
> Europe I would rather avoid. I don't know where this nonsense about LA
> gangs originate - perhaps people confuse movies with the real life. If
> you decide to come here, ask for advice on where to stay. Los Angeles is
> a very large city.
Thanks for some very good comments. I agree the Huntington Library is
wonderful and the "Blue Boy" (Gainsborough) is larger than life! KM
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> If you come to Los Angeles, spend a day in a place called Huntington
> Library near Pasadena. Brig a camera. There are beautiful gardens, the
> library and the art collection. The advantage of going to Los Angeles at
> this time of the year is that you don't need to worry about cold weater.
> It never snows here (except in the mountains surrounding the city). I
> met several foreigners who visited Los Angeles and all enjoyed their
> stay here. Don't worry about gangs. I lived here since 1973 and haven't
> seen one yet. I was born and raised in Europe and there are places in
> Europe I would rather avoid. I don't know where this nonsense about LA
> gangs originate - perhaps people confuse movies with the real life. If
> you decide to come here, ask for advice on where to stay. Los Angeles is
> a very large city.
Thanks for some very good comments. I agree the Huntington Library is
wonderful and the "Blue Boy" (Gainsborough) is larger than life! KM
--
(-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or
visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect
to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all
about Hawaii, Israel and more:
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Oct 21st 2002, 12:56 pm
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Just treat any place you visit as you would your own city, ask questions, be sensible, use your instincts but above all enjoy yourself.
I have been in many major cities all over the world, they all have beauty and they all have grey areas. I too live in Baltimore County after moving from the UK, and I can honestly say there are areas of the UK I fear far more than anything I have encountered in the USA.
The major perception in Europe is that the downtown US cities are riddled with gun waving drug pushers, statistically there are more gun crimes in the UK per head of population than in the USA.
Just enjoy and excersise caution like you would anywhere else.
I have been in many major cities all over the world, they all have beauty and they all have grey areas. I too live in Baltimore County after moving from the UK, and I can honestly say there are areas of the UK I fear far more than anything I have encountered in the USA.
The major perception in Europe is that the downtown US cities are riddled with gun waving drug pushers, statistically there are more gun crimes in the UK per head of population than in the USA.
Just enjoy and excersise caution like you would anywhere else.
Oct 21st 2002, 1:14 pm
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Finally someone else from Baltimore. Thought I was a leper here 
What side of the city r u, bet it is not East Balt?
What side of the city r u, bet it is not East Balt?
Oct 21st 2002, 2:01 pm
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I'm from Cockeysville, Hunt valley, but get over to the East on a regular basis to visit familly friends, I also thought everyone else lived in every single city but Baltimore.
Oct 21st 2002, 2:12 pm
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Originally posted by robclews:
I'm from Cockeysville, Hunt valley, but get over to the East on a regular basis to visit familly friends, I also thought everyone else lived in every single city but Baltimore.
I'm from Cockeysville, Hunt valley, but get over to the East on a regular basis to visit familly friends, I also thought everyone else lived in every single city but Baltimore.
Oct 21st 2002, 2:12 pm
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Originally posted by suebo:
So you are north then, I am south in AA county.
So you are north then, I am south in AA county.
Oct 21st 2002, 2:26 pm
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Originally posted by suebo:
OOps that is west
OOps that is west