Magda

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:47:37 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Anonymouse
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... no... we were after prohibited weapons, including but not limited to
... chemical/nuclear/biological weapons.
...
... we've found prohibited weapons (and in fact prohibited weapons have been
... used) and chemical weapons.
...
... > What are you going to do now - after filling your cars with all that oil ? Apologise to
... > the world, for starters ?
...
... no... we were going to watch the French Cultural Center get sacked along
... with the German Embassy.

The same old barbarians... Nothing new under the sun.

Evelynvogtgamble

John Stolz wrote:
    >
    > wrote in message

    > > Of course not, since the Marines just today found tons of nuclear
    > > waste right under a site that the vaunted inspectors couldn't find
    > > when they inspected it. But, hey, give them time. The inspections
    > > are working.

    > Actually the inspections aren't working at the moment - the inspectors were
    > kicked out by the americans
    >
    > The forces allegedly found evidence on wmd three or four times during the
    > campaign, but all turned out to be hoaxes.

And how often will they cry "wolf"? If they ever DO find any genuine
evidence, who will believe it? (Except the gullible who believe each and
every hoax, and ignore its debunking.)

Evelynvogtgamble

Marie Lewis wrote:
    >
    > In article , Jim Morris
    > writes
    > >Drums of Possible WMD being tested currently, possible mobile weapons
    > >Lab found today, Uranium found today at a Nuclear Site.............. These
    > >may
    > >pan out, may not, but the rest will be found concealed somewhere.
    >
    > Oh yes: the CIA will see that they are!

Why do I have an uneasy feeling you're right?

    > --
    > Marie Lewis

The Mighty Rushie

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:21:03 GMT, [email protected] (Irwell) wrote:

    >On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:21:00 -0400, The Mighty Rushie wrote:
    >>Thank God America has a leader with the guts to
    >>lead.
    >>Ask the people of Iraq what they think of:
    >>George Bush
    >>Saddam
    >>Many thanks to our British, Spanish and Australian
    >>friends for helping the US liberate Iraq!!!
    >>Rush
    >If you think the world is now a safer place, Good Luck!


The people of Iraq are better off.

The world is better off and safer.

Thanks USA!!!!!

Rush

Evelynvogtgamble

Magda wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:24:29 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "John Stolz"
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... The forces allegedly found evidence on wmd three or four times during the
    > ... campaign, but all turned out to be hoaxes.
    >
    > If Saddam had WMD... I just can't imagine him NOT using them.

Neither can most people with something more effective than cornmeal mush
for brains.

    >
    > BTW, has his corpse been found or is he making friends with Bin Laden somewhere ?

Probably the latter - and they've begun gathering up all the large
segments of the Arab world who hate us, getting ready to launch an
all-out surprise attack where we are most vulnerable! (They won't
target Bush, though - he's accomplishing too much of their work for
them.)

The Mighty Rushie

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:10:01 +0200, Magda wrote:

    >On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:24:29 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, "John Stolz"
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... The forces allegedly found evidence on wmd three or four times during the
    > ... campaign, but all turned out to be hoaxes.
    >If Saddam had WMD... I just can't imagine him NOT using them.

Simple...

The United States Military carried out a masterful plan in conjunction
with our friends the British!

The United States CIA had a lot to do with it too.


    >BTW, has his corpse been found or is he making friends with Bin Laden somewhere ?

Rush

Magda

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:32:10 -0400, in rec.travel.europe, The Mighty Rushie
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


PFFFFFFF...

... The United States CIA had a lot to do with it too.

Encore un spécialiste de la langue de bois... LOL

... >BTW, has his corpse been found or is he making friends with Bin Laden somewhere ?

David Horne

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

    > (Except the gullible who believe each and
    > every hoax, and ignore its debunking.)

That you don't see the irony.

David

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.co.uk
davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Magda

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:47:37 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Anonymouse
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

...
... > And you were after... ahem... "WMD"... There wasn't any.
...
... Hi,
...
... no... we were after prohibited weapons, including but not limited to
... chemical/nuclear/biological weapons.
...
... we've found prohibited weapons (and in fact prohibited weapons have been
... used) and chemical weapons.
...
... > What are you going to do now - after filling your cars with all that oil ? Apologise to
... > the world, for starters ?
...
... no... we were going to watch the French Cultural Center get sacked along
... with the German Embassy.

While we sit down and wait for the cows to come home, I have something for the French
speakers. :-))



Dans les situations extrêmes, nous reconnaissons nos propres faiblesses.

Une question vous est posée. Répondez avec sincérité et alors vous pourrez faire votre
autoévaluation morale. C'est rapide, cela ne prendra pas beaucoup de votre temps.

Il s'agit d'une situation imaginaire dans laquelle vous allez décider ce que vous
feriez...

Vous êtes à Washington, au milieu du chaos provoqué par les terribles épisodes de
terrorisme qui accompagnent les périodes de guerre. Vous êtes un reporter photographe qui
travaille pour CNN et vous êtes aux abois, réalisant photo sur photo, des clichés très
impressionnants. Soudain vous apercevez G. W. Bush tentant désespérément d'échapper à un
terroriste armé qui le poursuit. Il est sur le point d'être rattrapé; or vous avez la
possibilité d'utiliser votre portable, pour appeler le FBI afin qu'il lui porte secours,
ou bien de prendre La Photo qui remportera le Prix Pulitzer, qui fera le tour du Monde
montrant la mort d'un homme politique célèbre...

Basé sur vos principes éthiques et moraux et sur la fraternité et la solidarité humaine,
répondez sincèrement :

Feriez-vous la photo en couleur ou en noir et blanc?

Irwell

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:30:20 -0400, The Mighty Rushie wrote:

    >On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:21:03 GMT, [email protected] (Irwell) wrote:
    >>On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:21:00 -0400, The Mighty Rushie wrote:
    >>>Thank God America has a leader with the guts to
    >>>lead.
    >>>Ask the people of Iraq what they think of:
    >>>George Bush
    >>>Saddam
    >>>Many thanks to our British, Spanish and Australian
    >>>friends for helping the US liberate Iraq!!!
    >>>Rush
    >>If you think the world is now a safer place, Good Luck!
    >The people of Iraq are better off.
    >The world is better off and safer.
    >Thanks USA!!!!!
    >Rush
If you believe that then again, Good Luck, you will need it.

Arkadya

PALESTINIANS MOURN SADDAM'S FALL
KHALED ABU TOAMEH Apr. 9, 2003
There was shock and disbelief in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Wednesday as
Palestinians gathered around TV sets to watch US Marines and Iraqi residents
knock down a giant statute of Saddam Hussein in Tahrir Square in central
Baghdad. "I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said
Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah. He and
grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with
the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing
more than a US-produced Hollywood film. "This can't be true," grumbled Abu
Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam?
Where are the heroic Republican Guards?" Some Palestinian officials, however,
expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime
has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world
would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. "We hope that
Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told
The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map
plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on
our people." Since the beginning of the war, many Palestinians have been
staging daily demonstrations in support of Saddam. The protests have often
turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned
effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they
had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and
British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the
West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in
the fighting. "This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly
the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He
is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed
Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam. "I
invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I
wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded
shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of
the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading
crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American
soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad." Salim Jaber, a taxi driver from
the nearby town of Beitunia, said he decided to call it a day when he heard on
radio the news from Baghdad. "I just couldn't continue driving," he said. "It
was very difficult for me and the passengers. I've never seen such solemn
faces. It was as if they had lost dear ones." Many Palestinians said Saddam was
the only Arab leader who sided with them both morally and financially in their
confrontation with Israel. "He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only
Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs,
a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like
orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser
Arafat." Since the beginning of the intifada more than two years ago, Saddam
has paid about 30 million dollars to families of Palestinian victims of the
violence, including suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel. The money
was channeled through the pro-Iraqi Arab Liberation Front, a tiny Palestinian
faction operating in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The last time Saddam's
representative handed out checks to Palestinians was last week. Some
Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially
al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about
the developments on the battlefield. "For the past three weeks these stations
gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the
US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh, the owner of a boutique in
al-Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah. "Where is the liar [Iraqi information
minister Mohammed] Sahhaf," he asked rhetorically. "He sounded and looked so
confidant when he told us that the Iraqis were slaughtering the crusaders and
mercenaries at the gates of Baghdad. Everyone believed that the Iraqis were
cleverly luring the Americans and British into Baghdad, which was supposed into
a huge graveyard for the crusaders." Older Palestinians said the events in Iraq
are reminiscent of the Six Day War, when Arab radio stations and leaders told
their audiences that Israel was on the verge of defeat. They said the TV
appearances of the Iraqi information minister, who remained defiant till the
last minute, insisting that everything was under control and that the enemy had
been defeated. "Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said,
who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like
flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad
village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of
their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war
erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be
disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."
Never Forgive, Never Forget
9-11-01

Johndoe

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:22:54 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:

    >John Stolz wrote:
    >>
    >> wrote in message
    >> > Of course not, since the Marines just today found tons of nuclear
    >> > waste right under a site that the vaunted inspectors couldn't find
    >> > when they inspected it. But, hey, give them time. The inspections
    >> > are working.
    >> Actually the inspections aren't working at the moment - the inspectors were
    >> kicked out by the americans
    >>
    >> The forces allegedly found evidence on wmd three or four times during the
    >> campaign, but all turned out to be hoaxes.
    >And how often will they cry "wolf"? If they ever DO find any genuine
    >evidence, who will believe it? (Except the gullible who believe each and
    >every hoax, and ignore its debunking.)

the truly blind are those who refuse to see

Marie Lewis

In article , The Mighty
Rushie writes
    >The United States Military carried out a masterful plan in conjunction
    >with our friends the British!


I do not wish to be considered your friend.
--
Marie Lewis

Marie Lewis

In article , Magda
writes
    >Dans les situations extrêmes, nous reconnaissons nos propres faiblesses.
    >Une question vous est posée. Répondez avec sincérité et alors vous pourrez faire votre
    >autoévaluation morale. C'est rapide, cela ne prendra pas beaucoup de votre temps.
    >Il s'agit d'une situation imaginaire dans laquelle vous allez décider ce que vous
    >feriez...
    >Vous êtes à Washington, au milieu du chaos provoqué par les terribles épisodes de
    >terrorisme qui accompagnent les périodes de guerre. Vous êtes un reporter photographe qui
    >travaille pour CNN et vous êtes aux abois, réalisant photo sur photo, des clichés très
    >impressionnants. Soudain vous apercevez G. W. Bush tentant désespérément d'échapper à un
    >terroriste armé qui le poursuit. Il est sur le point d'être rattrapé; or vous avez la
    >possibilité d'utiliser votre portable, pour appeler le FBI afin qu'il lui porte secours,
    >ou bien de prendre La Photo qui remportera le Prix Pulitzer, qui fera le tour du Monde
    >montrant la mort d'un homme politique célèbre...
    >Basé sur vos principes éthiques et moraux et sur la fraternité et la solidarité humaine,
    >répondez sincèrement :
    >Feriez-vous la photo en couleur ou en noir et blanc?


Excellent!
--
Marie Lewis

Jimmy.John

Anonymouse very candidly stated.

"we've found prohibited weapons (and in fact prohibited weapons
have been
used) and chemical weapons".
Could he please elaborate so we may all know what the crap he is
talking about
Jim
--
Please remove DONTSPAMME from my address to reply.
"Anonymouse" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > > And you were after... ahem... "WMD"... There wasn't any.
    > Hi,
    > no... we were after prohibited weapons, including but not
limited to
    > chemical/nuclear/biological weapons.
    > we've found prohibited weapons (and in fact prohibited weapons
have been
    > used) and chemical weapons.
    > > What are you going to do now - after filling your cars with
all that oil ? Apologise to
    > > the world, for starters ?
    > no... we were going to watch the French Cultural Center get
sacked along
    > with the German Embassy.
    > --
    > "I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted,
    > and I won't be layed a hand on.
    > I don't do these things to other people,
    > and I require the same from them"
    > J.B. Books (John Wayne)