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Old Sep 15th 2002, 8:56 pm
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    >I seem to remember that you were a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001, but
    >have turned into one of the nastier posters after. Time to go talk to your
    >psychiatrist?
    >Sjoerd

Come on Sjoerd, have a bit of common sense.

I do believe that somebody can be a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001,
AND be critical and strongly dislike Muslims AFTER the cold blooded
murder or 3000 innocent civilians in NYC.

You don't need to visit a psychiatrist... to work that one out;
but Common sense is not that common, these days of
Political Correctness.

IMHO Muslims seem to ENJOY being hated by the rest of the world,
THEY create the problems (plse do not mention the Palestinians now)
by always murdering defenceless people (they particularly like
bombing Churches, schools, buses at busy times).
How, but how, can their thoughts patterns make them believe that
by doing that sort of things they will influence the World (to their
advantage)..

BTW, not being in the States (and not having CNN, thank you very much)
I did not see the scene of the crying mad women, but I can well imagine it,
having witnessed these scenes in Newsreels for the past 50 years.

paul e/uk
 
Old Sep 15th 2002, 9:42 pm
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Retired wrote:

    > >
    > Come on Sjoerd, have a bit of common sense.

Where is your's?

    > I do believe that somebody can be a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001,
    > AND be critical and strongly dislike Muslims AFTER the cold blooded
    > murder or 3000 innocent civilians in NYC.
    > You don't need to visit a psychiatrist... to work that one out;
    > but Common sense is not that common, these days of
    > Political Correctness.

Common sense dictates that I not blame an entire religion for the
beliefs of a small minority.

    > IMHO Muslims seem to ENJOY being hated by the rest of the world,

perhaps you should take a poll....
I doubt that most Muslims want to be hated.
Since the "rest of the world" seems to be against the US attacking Iraq,
doesn't this make us the rogue nation?

    > THEY create the problems (plse do not mention the Palestinians now)
    > by always murdering defenceless people (they particularly like
    > bombing Churches, schools, buses at busy times).
    > How, but how, can their thoughts patterns make them believe that
    > by doing that sort of things they will influence the World (to their
    > advantage)..

How many "defenseless" people were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
How many Americans cheered?

How many defenseless people were killed in the Crusades?

Most Islamic people are appalled at what happened at the WTC.
Do you not have the common sense to know this?
 
Old Sep 15th 2002, 10:52 pm
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:42:10 GMT, mrtravel <"mrtravel;"@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

    >Retired wrote:
    >> >
    >> Come on Sjoerd, have a bit of common sense.
    >Where is your's?

Eh, Mr. Education, it's where's yours?

    >> I do believe that somebody can be a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001,
    >> AND be critical and strongly dislike Muslims AFTER the cold blooded
    >> murder or 3000 innocent civilians in NYC.
    >> You don't need to visit a psychiatrist... to work that one out;
    >> but Common sense is not that common, these days of
    >> Political Correctness.
    >Common sense dictates that I not blame an entire religion for the
    >beliefs of a small minority.
    >> IMHO Muslims seem to ENJOY being hated by the rest of the world,
    >perhaps you should take a poll....
    >I doubt that most Muslims want to be hated.
    >Since the "rest of the world" seems to be against the US attacking Iraq,
    >doesn't this make us the rogue nation?
    >> THEY create the problems (plse do not mention the Palestinians now)
    >> by always murdering defenceless people (they particularly like
    >> bombing Churches, schools, buses at busy times).
    >> How, but how, can their thoughts patterns make them believe that
    >> by doing that sort of things they will influence the World (to their
    >> advantage)..
    >How many "defenseless" people were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
    >How many Americans cheered?
    >How many defenseless people were killed in the Crusades?
    >Most Islamic people are appalled at what happened at the WTC.
    >Do you not have the common sense to know this?
 
Old Sep 15th 2002, 11:08 pm
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Mxsmanic writes:

    > It should be kept in mind that Islam
    > is a religion, not a genetic trait.
    > Obviously there will be both ugly and
    > beautiful Muslims.

Beauty is not genetic either, except in children.
By the time adult life begins at forty, our beauty *is* largely a
consequence of how we feel about ourselves - and religion probably
*does* have a big impact.

Scowling, frowning, self-hatred and abusing yourself with cigarettes,
drugs, alcohol, and constant dieting will make you rather unpleasant
looking in just a few years. If you look around, it's easy to see many
beautiful girls who've become ugly as they turned into women. Lee
Meriwhether, for instance, was Miss American in 1955, and regrettable by
the 1980s. Audrey Hepburn and Elizabeth Taylor were other rather pretty
girls that turned into rather unhappy and unattractive woman.

On the other hand, some women get significently more beautiful as they
age. Della Reese had a great voice for radio, but when she appeared on
Ed Sullivan, she was boring and bland other than some nice hips. In
contrast to that, she certainly is a magnificent beauty today. Susan
Sarandon and Tina Turner are other examples of engaging beauty as women
but fairly ordinary looks at 25.

I don't know enough Muslims to form a valid opinion, but my impression
has not been that Muslim women were particularly ugly.

Redd Foxx said, "ain't nothing uglier than a skinny old white woman" and
there may be some truth to that; as a group, they certainly seem to
embrace misery as much as any group I can quickly think of. I suspect
generalizations will fail, though - there seems to be more variation
*within* groups than *between* groups.

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Old Sep 15th 2002, 11:23 pm
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    > What happened on November 9,
    > 2001? :-)
    > What do you know I DO have a sense
    > of humor.

If you need an emoticon to let people know it's funny, it's not funny.

This court finds no probable cause upon which to issue a warrant to
search you for a sense of humor.

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Old Sep 15th 2002, 11:25 pm
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:40:23 -0400, Miss Frederica Toussaint Malveaux
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>ws.dfncis.de
    ...
    >>> Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, but I've been viewing
    >>this
    >>> bit on the news with those Muslims that were stopped on "Alligator Alley"
    >>> down Florida way for "terrorist" reasons......
    >>> The family of this Muslim version of the Snopes Gang has been all over the
    >>> teevee the last few hours decrying the "innocence" of their family
    >>members.
    >>> The female members of the clan have been the ones that have been on a
    >>MAJOR
    >>> vociferous crying jag, stepping up to the CNN Microphone Podium and
    >>weeping
    >>> on cue.....
    >>> A question here: WHAT is the deal with these Muslim women? Why are they
    >>so
    >>> friggin' UGLY?
    >>Please post a picture of yourself somewhere on the Net and we'll decide if
    >>you are a hunk or some sorry little ugly fat fellow.
    >>I seem to remember that you were a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001, but
    >>have turned into one of the nastier posters after. Time to go talk to your
    >>psychiatrist?
    >>Sjoerd
    >well Mr. "Sjoerd van der Voet" I recall when you showed up here at first
    >all nice and lovey dovey with your tail between your legs
    >it wasn't too long before you kooked out and became one of the nastiest
    >posters on r.t.a. constantly criticizing the U.S. and Americans because they
    >wouldn't allow you to emigrate to the U.S. with your gay Colombian drug
    >trafficking lover and that was enough for a dutch fag commie bastard like you to
    >trash the U.S. for the rest of your life
    >so kindly shut the **** up and go and get ****ed in your aids ridden ass by
    >those drug addicted illegal immigrants hanging around in the streets of
    >Amsterdam that you love so much and please stay over there because we ain't
    >interested in your butt-****ing kind over here
    >God Bless you all (except fag commie bastard sjoerd),
    >Miss Frederica

This is great . Someone who never posts in this group (after seeing
the list o NG he wanted to post to he qualifies as a nice troll , but
what the heck) now does it only to write an idiotic nonsense about
another poster .Actually i find that Sjoerd (among with Miguel Cruz
and some others) are the most sensible posters to rec.travel.air and
rec.travel.europe . It is funny to read these posts because of their
surrealism. 5-old children arguing each other in a kindergarten
wouldn't have done it better. I don't know if he is gay ,it seems so
from a recent psot. I am gay. Many people are. Perhaps that God that
you want everyone be blessed by , whenever they are inerested or not
in your hiper nationalist and religious dream , is gay , or a black
lesbian woman, or a bisexual colombian after all.

Believe it or not , I am often considered as "pro american" here in
Spain, even sometimes that i don't like Spain "enough", whatever this
means. Actually I like many things about Europe Spain the USA and any
other place I've been to and many others I only dream about going but
have read about it. But there is no such thing I hate most as extreme
chauvinism (which both the USA and many European countries suffer from
, for example in Spain this is happens quite a lot) your post
sumarizes many things I am against with :

a ) 9/11/2001 is a turnaround in History.
b) The world ends in the USA. Every other nation in the world envys us
and it is not our fault neither can / will /want do anything to
change it. It is because They Are Evil.
c) a whole bunch of old cliches regarding latin people, gay sexuality
/sex and AIDS.
d) The only correct way is the American one, or better there is no
other "culture" as the one depicted in American books, films,
whatever. (that is actually the plot behind the message that started
this thread about Muslim women being ugly - for "western" eyes, that
is, used to blonde Barbies and Kents, Leo di Caprio and Marylin , and
so on

I know i should not post this . It is no sense , will not change the
wold , i'm tired and bored but well, had to do some typing , I guess.
 
Old Sep 15th 2002, 11:54 pm
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Mr. Travel writes:
    > JFK was a Catholic and became
    > president of the US even though
    > the US isn't a "Catholic Country".

Would you say it is a Methodist, Baptist, Congregationalist, Disciple of
Christ, Dutch Reformed, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Unitarian, or Quaker
country?

Officially, it is a *secular* country, but the population is mostly
Christian, and all those different denominations consider themselves
Christian, with the possible exception of Unitarians, who aren't even
sure they are practicing a religion.

    > So, the assumption that the leader
    > of Pakistan would have to be islamic
    > seems to be the same...

The presumption is reasonable, although not conclusive. You probably
aren't going to see any Druids or Pagans elected to the White House,
although Hillary may end up back there, and many consider her to be
Wiccan. <grin>

Benazir is considered to be the first Muslim woman to lead a Muslim
nation in modern times. (I wonder when the *last* one was.)

But she attended Lady Jennings Nursery School and then Convent of Jesus
and Mary in Karachi. Pindi Presentation Convent and the Jesus and Mary
Convent at Murree. Judging from the names, it sounds like a Roman
Catholic education.

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Old Sep 15th 2002, 11:57 pm
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:
    > [email protected] (The Real Me) wrote:
    >>Take your moral relativism and stuff it.
    > Not relativism, and I won't stuff it. Hatred is just as ugly from one
    > side as it is from another.

I'll take "moral relatrivism" any day. There is no real other source of
ethics, except for some bigotry or another trying to impose their
"absolute" values on you and me.

Whether christian or Muslim, shaven or unshaven.
 
Old Sep 16th 2002, 12:12 am
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"mrtravel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
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    > "Some call me...Tim" wrote:
    > >
    > > mrtravel <[email protected]> posted:
    > >
    > > > The discussion was about Muslim women and someone was
    > > > wondering whether Benazir Bhutto was muslim or Hindu.
    > >
    > > She's Muslim. Christ, she was Pakistan's PM.
    > Muslim/Christ, interesting word choice
    > JFK was a Catholic and became president of the US even though the US
    > isn't a "Catholic Country". So, the assumption that the leader of
    > Pakistan would have to be islamic seems to be the same...

LOL...yeah right and I guess you'll be expecting a Muslim to be elected
leader of Israel. Comparing the US Political system (separation of Church
and State) to nations whose political identity is BASED upon religious
identity is amusing. Pakistan is a nation that came into existence when it
was partitioned from India at the request of the Muslim minority in India.
 
Old Sep 16th 2002, 7:02 am
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Miss Frederica writes:
    > God Bless you all (except fag commie
    > bastard sjoerd),

You didn't mention how you determined that his parents were
unmarried....

Makes one wonder about the cajun church ladies. Many theologists say
Jesus was the not the son of Joseph, but a bastard. Historians say Jesus
and his disciples lived as a communistic group. And even in his 30s,
Jesus appeared not to have a girlfriend.

So you're accusing Sjoerd of being Christlike?

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the universe. wings to the mind, flight
to the imagination, and charm and
gaiety to life and to everything. - Plato
 
Old Sep 16th 2002, 7:29 am
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    >...And even in his 30s,
    >Jesus appeared not to have a girlfriend.

Didn't he spend a lot of time sh@gging a prostitute? For free? That could
conceivably make him a pimp, I suppose, as well.
 
Old Sep 16th 2002, 8:33 am
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Franco <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Although most of the population practice the Hindu religion, India is
    > the nation with the largest population of Muslims on earth.

It's probably Indonesia, though it's getting closer all the time.

In any case, many of the people of Pakistan are ethnically indistinguishable
from people of northern and central India, from where they fled during
Partition.

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Old Sep 16th 2002, 8:38 am
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Paul Ding <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Benazir is considered to be the first Muslim woman to lead a Muslim
    > nation in modern times. (I wonder when the *last* one was.)

Um, how about Megawati Sukarnoputri (present president of Indonesia)?

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Old Sep 16th 2002, 9:09 am
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I'm sure God is really impressed by your devotion, dear, if not by
your unimaginative choice of drag name (Noo Orlins pseudo-french
pseudo-aristocracy is SOOO 60s, darling). 'In God We Trust', eh?
No-one thinks to ask him what he thinks about the USA....

On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:40:23 -0400, Miss Frederica Toussaint Malveaux
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >so kindly shut the **** up and go and get ****ed in your aids ridden ass by
    >those drug addicted illegal immigrants hanging around in the streets of
    >Amsterdam that you love so much and please stay over there because we ain't
    >interested in your butt-****ing kind over here
    >God Bless you all (except fag commie bastard sjoerd),
    >Miss Frederica
 
Old Sep 16th 2002, 9:33 am
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
    > Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, but I've been viewing this
    > bit on the news with those Muslims that were stopped on "Alligator Alley"
    > down Florida way for "terrorist" reasons......
    > The family of this Muslim version of the Snopes Gang has been all over the
    > teevee the last few hours decrying the "innocence" of their family members.
    > The female members of the clan have been the ones that have been on a MAJOR
    > vociferous crying jag, stepping up to the CNN Microphone Podium and weeping
    > on cue.....
    > A question here: WHAT is the deal with these Muslim women? Why are they so
    > friggin' UGLY? They are a nasty coagulated mess of smarmy veils, grotty
    > snaggly teeth, wichity warts, cheap Montgomery Wards eyeglasses, and other
    > fashion faux paux. This bunch makes rural Utah Mormon polygamist women
    > look like Suzy Parker or Catherine Deneuve or Grace Jones or other such glam
    > gals. How can they even attract men folk to *breed* with them (obviously
    > they do, because they procreate like cockroaches, whichever niche on the
    > planet they happen to infest....but then their men folk seem to have not
    > picked up a copy of "Barber&Good Grooming News", either)...?????
    > I mean, *honestly*....these retrograde gals are *nastier* than Larry King's
    > *breath"....!!!!!!

LOL! Nastier than a Brandy Alexandre blowjob in a bathroom at a used car
lot.
 


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