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Old Sep 14th 2002, 6:24 pm
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Evelyn Vogt Gamble
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Qansett wrote:
    > "YourBuddy!" wrote:
    > > Maybe it's because they wear the burka and are covered up all the time.
    > I always wonder how many of those woman have a longing desire to trash their
    > bizarre but Cultural clothes and dress in a more westernised fashion

Probably quite a few, but what can they do in a culture where their men effectively
own them, and they have absolutely no rights? (Maybe one solution to the U.S.
problem might be to encourage the revolt of the most downtrodden people in the Arab
world - their women?)
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 6:46 pm
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Gregory Morrow wrote:

    > Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, A question here: WHAT is the deal
    > with these Muslim women? Why are they so friggin' UGLY?

Not quite clear why this cross-poster thinks his observations are equally relevant in
all the diverse groups he honours with his views, but...

beauty *is* in the eye of the beholder.There are probably many hundreds of thousands
(millions?) of US spouses who think their grossly obese spouses, hundreds of pounds
of quivering fat, are the epitome of human beauty. Well, fair enough. I don't judge
beauty by this staandard, but you'd probably not share my own criteria, and why
should you?

On the other hand, if I applied my criteria to *your*
wife/hisband/son/daughter/partner, and shouted "My god! What an ugly person you're
with!" you would be entirely right to accuse me of totally unacceptable, crass and
unpardonable rudeness.

The converse also applies.

(I'm not a Moslim, nor in any way associated with one, male or female.)
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 7:06 pm
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John M Price Phd
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In alt.radio.talk.dr-laura article
<[email protected]> Phoenix
<[email protected]> wrote:
    : In article <bbef2b3f.0209140924.4f044e0 @posting.google.com>,
    : [email protected] says...
    :> "Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    :> news:<[email protected]>...
    :> > "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected]
    :> >
    ...
    :> > > Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, but I've been viewing
    :> > this
    :> > > bit on the news with those Muslims that were stopped on "Alligator Alley" down
    :> > > Florida way for "terrorist" reasons......
    :> > >
    :> > > The family of this Muslim version of the Snopes Gang has been all over the
    :> > > teevee the last few hours decrying the "innocence" of their family
    :> > members.
    :> > > The female members of the clan have been the ones that have been on a
    :> > MAJOR
    :> > > vociferous crying jag, stepping up to the CNN Microphone Podium and
    :> > weeping
    :> > > on cue.....
    :> > >
    :> > > A question here: WHAT is the deal with these Muslim women? Why are they
    :> > so
    :> > > friggin' UGLY?
    :> >
    :> > Please post a picture of yourself somewhere on the Net and we'll decide if you
    :> > are a hunk or some sorry little ugly fat fellow.
    :> >
    :> > I seem to remember that you were a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001, but have
    :> > turned into one of the nastier posters after. Time to go talk to your
    :> > psychiatrist?
    :> >
    :> > Sjoerd
    :>
    :> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    :>
    :> Isn't there an Arab saying that goes something like:
    :>
    :> Women are for making babies. Boys are for making love.
    :>
    :> Gary

    : That saying was originally Greek, I think,

Arabic I've always been told. I recall a mention of that source in a Penthouse from
my younger days.

Boys are for pleasure Melons for fun But if you want babies The Woman's the one.

Or some such.


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Old Sep 14th 2002, 7:19 pm
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In article <3d8388a2$0$71503 [email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
    > In alt.radio.talk.dr-laura article
    > <[email protected]> Phoenix
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > : In article <bbef2b3f.0209140924.4f044e0 @posting.google.com>,
    > : [email protected] says...
    > :> "Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > :> news:<[email protected]>...
    > :> > "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected]
    > :> > s.de
    ...
    > :> > > Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, but I've been viewing
    > :> > this
    > :> > > bit on the news with those Muslims that were stopped on "Alligator Alley"
    > :> > > down Florida way for "terrorist" reasons......
    > :> > >
    > :> > > The family of this Muslim version of the Snopes Gang has been all over the
    > :> > > teevee the last few hours decrying the "innocence" of their family
    > :> > members.
    > :> > > The female members of the clan have been the ones that have been on a
    > :> > MAJOR
    > :> > > vociferous crying jag, stepping up to the CNN Microphone Podium and
    > :> > weeping
    > :> > > on cue.....
    > :> > >
    > :> > > A question here: WHAT is the deal with these Muslim women? Why are they
    > :> > so
    > :> > > friggin' UGLY?
    > :> >
    > :> > Please post a picture of yourself somewhere on the Net and we'll decide if you
    > :> > are a hunk or some sorry little ugly fat fellow.
    > :> >
    > :> > I seem to remember that you were a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001, but
    > :> > have turned into one of the nastier posters after. Time to go talk to your
    > :> > psychiatrist?
    > :> >
    > :> > Sjoerd
    > :>
    > :> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > :>
    > :> Isn't there an Arab saying that goes something like:
    > :>
    > :> Women are for making babies. Boys are for making love.
    > :>
    > :> Gary
    > : That saying was originally Greek, I think,
    > Arabic I've always been told. I recall a mention of that source in a Penthouse
    > from my younger days.
    > Boys are for pleasure Melons for fun But if you want babies The Woman's the one.
    > Or some such.

Then why does the verse rhyme in English so well? Sounds like another bit of smutty
humor, kinda funny, but I doubt this bit's particular Muslim roots.

bel


 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 7:46 pm
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John M Price Phd
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In alt.radio.talk.dr-laura article
<[email protected]> Phoenix
<[email protected]> wrote:
    : In article <3d8388a2$0$71503 [email protected]>,
    : [email protected] says...
    :> In alt.radio.talk.dr-laura article
    :> <[email protected]> Phoenix
    :> <[email protected]> wrote:
    :> : In article <bbef2b3f.0209140924.4f044e0 @posting.google.com>,
    :> : [email protected] says...
    :> :> "Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    :> :> news:<[email protected]>...
    :> :> > "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected]
    :> :> > cis.de
    ...
    :> :> > > Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, but I've been viewing
    :> :> > this
    :> :> > > bit on the news with those Muslims that were stopped on "Alligator Alley"
    :> :> > > down Florida way for "terrorist" reasons......
    :> :> > >
    :> :> > > The family of this Muslim version of the Snopes Gang has been all over the
    :> :> > > teevee the last few hours decrying the "innocence" of their family
    :> :> > members.
    :> :> > > The female members of the clan have been the ones that have been on a
    :> :> > MAJOR
    :> :> > > vociferous crying jag, stepping up to the CNN Microphone Podium and
    :> :> > weeping
    :> :> > > on cue.....
    :> :> > >
    :> :> > > A question here: WHAT is the deal with these Muslim women? Why are they
    :> :> > so
    :> :> > > friggin' UGLY?
    :> :> >
    :> :> > Please post a picture of yourself somewhere on the Net and we'll decide if
    :> :> > you are a hunk or some sorry little ugly fat fellow.
    :> :> >
    :> :> > I seem to remember that you were a reasonable poster before 11/9/2001, but
    :> :> > have turned into one of the nastier posters after. Time to go talk to your
    :> :> > psychiatrist?
    :> :> >
    :> :> > Sjoerd
    :> :>
    :> :> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    :> :>
    :> :> Isn't there an Arab saying that goes something like:
    :> :>
    :> :> Women are for making babies. Boys are for making love.
    :> :>
    :> :> Gary
    :>
    :> : That saying was originally Greek, I think,
    :>
    :> Arabic I've always been told. I recall a mention of that source in a Penthouse
    :> from my younger days.
    :>
    :> Boys are for pleasure Melons for fun But if you want babies The Woman's the one.
    :>
    :> Or some such.

    : Then why does the verse rhyme in English so well?

Because it was not simply transliterated.

Sounds like another bit of smutty
    : humor,

Of course.

kinda funny, but I doubt this bit's
    : particular Muslim roots.

Well, whatever. Since your mind was made up, my memory of the Arabic (and no one
ever said Muslim, then) origin, greatly preceeding the recent 'let's hate the
Musselmen' zeitgeist, certainly won't change your mind. After all, history isn't
worth shit when you have a nice rough wheel to grind an ax on.


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Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined
nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and
better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides,
for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater ... confidence than an armed man.
- Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and
Punishment (1764).
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 8:08 pm
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No,Margaret, you're not the only one who was offended and outraged by the original
post. But as poster 'grey' suggests, 'don't feed the trolls'. I've noticed a tendency
over the past weeks for conversations to deteriorate into this kind of meaningless
arguing. (witness the thread 'How do Europeans View Americans These Days?)

I read this group for some of the excellent tips and suggestions on travelling in
Europe. I do not read it to be bombarded with ignorant ranting. That type of talk
belongs elsewhere (though I despair at the type of mind that produces some of the
posted comments, I defend every persons right to their own opinions, so I will not
call for censoring.)


"Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I have been reading the original post, as well as the subsequent replies and I am
    > starting to think that I something is very wrong in our news group.
    > Is it possible that I am the only one who feels deeply offended by what Greg wrote?
    > Is nobody going to say something about the type casting, racism and hatred for all
    > women that I have read in all this? Am I so old-fashioned that I felt sick when I
    > saw the first post and am getting sicker every time I read a post that condones it?
    > Has nobody thought of the Muslims who are our dear friends and who are being hurt
    > by this thoughtless and hateful attitude? Has nobody thought that this demeans
    > every woman?
    > Margaret
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 8:34 pm
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:19:32 -0400, Margaret Suran <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I have been reading the original post, as well as the subsequent replies and I am
    >starting to think that I something is very wrong in our news group.

snip

Same thing that is "wrong" with all unmoderatred groups. Even very well-known
cross-posting trolls still manage to hook a few fish now and then. Hit delete or
filter him out if it you want but continuing to cross-post just feeds him.

Gordon
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 8:49 pm
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[email protected] (The Real Me) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > On 14 Sep 2002 13:37:26 GMT, Emma Chase VanCott <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >Really?
    > >
    > >I think the former President of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, is pretty damn hot!
    > >
    > >Same with many Bollywood starlets. (For those who don't know, India has a bigger
    > >film industry, in terms of film volume, than even Hollywood.)
    > >
    > >Emma
    > >
    > I don't know about Bhutto's religion, but about 80% of the population of India
    > is Hindu.

Although most of the population practice the Hindu religion, India is the nation with
the largest population of Muslims on earth.
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 8:50 pm
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"Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > Not meaning to be politically incorrect and all, but I've been viewing this bit on
    > the news with those Muslims that were stopped on "Alligator Alley" down Florida way
    > for "terrorist" reasons......
    > The family of this Muslim version of the Snopes Gang has been all over the teevee
    > the last few hours decrying the "innocence" of their family members. The female
    > members of the clan have been the ones that have been on a MAJOR vociferous crying
    > jag, stepping up to the CNN Microphone Podium and weeping on cue.....
    > A question here: WHAT is the deal with these Muslim women? Why are they so
    > friggin' UGLY? They are a nasty coagulated mess of smarmy veils, grotty snaggly
    > teeth, wichity warts, cheap Montgomery Wards eyeglasses, and other fashion faux
    > paux. This bunch makes rural Utah Mormon polygamist women look like Suzy Parker
    > or Catherine Deneuve or Grace Jones or other such glam gals. How can they even
    > attract men folk to *breed* with them (obviously they do, because they procreate
    > like cockroaches, whichever niche on the planet they happen to infest....but then
    > their men folk seem to have not picked up a copy of "Barber&Good Grooming News",
    > either)...?????
    > I mean, *honestly*....these retrograde gals are *nastier* than Larry King's
    > *breath"....!!!!!!


If you lived among them, you would find that the longer you were there, the more
attractive they would become.
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 8:52 pm
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In alt.radio.talk.dr-laura article <[email protected]> Margaret Suran
<[email protected]> wrote:
    : I have been reading the original post, as well as the subsequent replies and I am
    : starting to think that I something is very wrong in our news group.

Which? There are four in the newsgroups line. One is for cooking.



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Old Sep 14th 2002, 9:17 pm
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"Emma Chase VanCott" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...

    > I think the former President of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, is pretty damn hot!

I agree that she is very pretty. Ségolène Royal in France is also very pretty.
Princess Diana was cute, apart from her excessive height, underweight, and
large nose.

It's unusual for women in politics to be pretty because so many of them are old by
the time they reach office. Then again some, like Margaret Thatcher and Sarah
Ferguson, have apparently never been pretty. Queen Elizabeth was nice looking when
she was young.
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 9:20 pm
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"Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...

    > Is it possible that I am the only one who feels deeply offended by what Greg wrote?

Yes, that's possible. Anyone with long experience on USENET probably doesn't take
offense easily.

    > Is nobody going to say something about the type casting, racism and hatred for all
    > women that I have read in all this?

Should anyone?

    > Am I so old-fashioned that I felt sick when I saw the first post and am getting
    > sicker every time I read a post that condones it?

It does sound that way.

    > Has nobody thought of the Muslims who are our dear friends and who are being hurt
    > by this thoughtless and hateful attitude?

A lot of Muslims don't take offense easily. It depends on how much they read USENET,
and how intelligent they are.

    > Has nobody thought that this demeans every woman?

It had not occurred to me. I've never been one for political correctness or
conditioned responses.
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 9:21 pm
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In article <[email protected] >, Franco
<[email protected]> wrote: ...
    >If you lived among them, you would find that the longer you were there, the more
    >attractive they would become.

Kinda like being a shepherd.

By the way, do ya suppose that that's the reason why they keep 'em covered ('cause
they are so ugly)? Makes sense to me...
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 9:22 pm
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"Phoenix" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...

    > That saying was originally Greek, I think, from back in the old days, you know, in
    > Athens where democracy was first toyed with.

And homosexuality was highly regarded as politically correct.
 
Old Sep 14th 2002, 9:33 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:
    > "Emma Chase VanCott" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    >>I think the former President of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, is pretty damn hot!
    > I agree that she is very pretty. Ségolène Royal in France is also very pretty.
    > Princess Diana was cute, apart from her excessive height, underweight, and
    > large nose.

Faint praise?


(Not that I disagree.)

Wasn't the nose kind of crooked too?
 


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