Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 3rd 2005, 4:39 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
"Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:27 +0200, nitram wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:08:21 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Kevin wrote:
> >>><Windows screens are similar to a filter that blocks insects from
> >>>flying in
> >>>through the windws, yet allows vision outside and breeze inside.
> >>>
> >>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
> >>>screens
> >>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
> >>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
> >>
> >>I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
> >>my particular corner of Italy.
> >>
> >>First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed in the
> >>historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons:
> Anyway, have you seen the price of the things? Daylight robbery, guv!
I think "ugly" and "darn expensive" nails it. Also, depending on where you
are and how you handle artificial light and open windows, insects are
often not that much of a problem.
inge
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> On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:27 +0200, nitram wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:08:21 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Kevin wrote:
> >>><Windows screens are similar to a filter that blocks insects from
> >>>flying in
> >>>through the windws, yet allows vision outside and breeze inside.
> >>>
> >>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
> >>>screens
> >>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
> >>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
> >>
> >>I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
> >>my particular corner of Italy.
> >>
> >>First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed in the
> >>historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons:
> Anyway, have you seen the price of the things? Daylight robbery, guv!
I think "ugly" and "darn expensive" nails it. Also, depending on where you
are and how you handle artificial light and open windows, insects are
often not that much of a problem.
inge
May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:27 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:08:21 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>><Windows screens are similar to a filter that blocks insects from
>>>flying in
>>>through the windws, yet allows vision outside and breeze inside.
>>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
>>>screens
>>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
>>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
>>I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
>>my particular corner of Italy.
>>First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed in the
>>historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons: the only window
>>fixtures allowed, other than the glass, are the traditional wooden
>>shutters, painted green. Outside the historical center, the rules are
>>much more flexible, but screens are still perceived as ugly.
>The screens are on the inside of the house and are not visible from
>outside.
If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
In any case, they're ugly from inside the house also.
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>On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:08:21 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>><Windows screens are similar to a filter that blocks insects from
>>>flying in
>>>through the windws, yet allows vision outside and breeze inside.
>>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
>>>screens
>>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
>>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
>>I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
>>my particular corner of Italy.
>>First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed in the
>>historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons: the only window
>>fixtures allowed, other than the glass, are the traditional wooden
>>shutters, painted green. Outside the historical center, the rules are
>>much more flexible, but screens are still perceived as ugly.
>The screens are on the inside of the house and are not visible from
>outside.
If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
In any case, they're ugly from inside the house also.
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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On 3 May 2005 06:56:12 -0700, "Wierd Travelers" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Here in Germany(Rheinland-Pfalz and Hessen), most people sleep with the
>windows open, even during the winter.
>Also almost all windows have a complete system with built in metal
>shutters(without as many holes) that roll up over the door way, and the
>windows can be open all the way, or have a middle position when the top
>part of the window tilts into the house. Do wish I could get thoses in
>the US.
My husband has those at his studio, but we have more old-fashioned
windows at home.
>For the most part insects are rare so they screens are not really
>needed, however I have seen a few houses with them built in, primarily
>in the bedrooms. What you do find a little more often are screens with
>sticky tape on them which can be purchased and placed on the outside.
I really like the screen we have in our bedroom, which rolls up and
down like a window shade. When it's up, it can't be seen at all from
the inside, and barely at all from the outside.
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wrote:
>Here in Germany(Rheinland-Pfalz and Hessen), most people sleep with the
>windows open, even during the winter.
>Also almost all windows have a complete system with built in metal
>shutters(without as many holes) that roll up over the door way, and the
>windows can be open all the way, or have a middle position when the top
>part of the window tilts into the house. Do wish I could get thoses in
>the US.
My husband has those at his studio, but we have more old-fashioned
windows at home.
>For the most part insects are rare so they screens are not really
>needed, however I have seen a few houses with them built in, primarily
>in the bedrooms. What you do find a little more often are screens with
>sticky tape on them which can be purchased and placed on the outside.
I really like the screen we have in our bedroom, which rolls up and
down like a window shade. When it's up, it can't be seen at all from
the inside, and barely at all from the outside.
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Barbara Vaughan
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:15:06 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>window tries to fall out?
Yes, that happened to me once at my husband's studio. It's a heavy
damn window, too.
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>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>window tries to fall out?
Yes, that happened to me once at my husband's studio. It's a heavy
damn window, too.
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:07:07 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> and the windows can be open all the way, or have a middle position
>> when the top part of the window tilts into the house. Do wish I could
>> get thoses in the US.
>Those windows can be ordered in the USA with no problem. Most
>Americans prefer windows with screens, so those windows are not
>common.
The type of screen we have in our bedroom can accomodate any kind of
window. It's on the outside, and rolls up into a box at the top of the
window when not in use.
>> For the most part insects are rare so they screens are not really
>> needed,
>Maybe where you are, but I remember a hotel in Zurich where the
>flies were all over the breakfast. Yuk!
>Pete
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wrote:
>> and the windows can be open all the way, or have a middle position
>> when the top part of the window tilts into the house. Do wish I could
>> get thoses in the US.
>Those windows can be ordered in the USA with no problem. Most
>Americans prefer windows with screens, so those windows are not
>common.
The type of screen we have in our bedroom can accomodate any kind of
window. It's on the outside, and rolls up into a box at the top of the
window when not in use.
>> For the most part insects are rare so they screens are not really
>> needed,
>Maybe where you are, but I remember a hotel in Zurich where the
>flies were all over the breakfast. Yuk!
>Pete
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
inward at the top.
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wrote:
>> Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
inward at the top.
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:56:25 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>I read it all, understood your point of view, and disagree
>entirely:-)
I was trying to state the Italian point of view, which I don't
completely share. I prefer to sleep with the windows open when the
temperature is above about 8 degrees Celsius.
>"First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed
>in the historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons"
>Not if they are properly designed. Come out here and look
>around.
They still wouldn't be allowed in most historical centers, which have
to preserve a certain historical look.
>"Second, screens do impede the circulation of air. You get a
>much better breeze without them."
>Sorry, but that just not true with modern fine-mesh screens.
>And you sure get a better movement of air than you do
>through a window that had to be closed to keep out the bugs
>and flies.
Italians don't keep the windows closed to keep out bugs. They are
trying to keep out the air at night.
>I didn't expect to find the total lack of screens that I did
>in Europe. And, as the spring turned to summer, I was
>surprised to find there were nearly as many flies in the
>European country towns as we get back here - all those
>cattle should have been a clue.
>Maybe it's different in Italy. But, in Mycenae (tiny flies
>kept invading the wine-jug in the restaurant), Zbraslav
>(Prague, moths), Seeg (Bavaria, flies) and many other little
>country villages the insects were a problem that we noticed
>and everyone else blithely ignored.
We don't have many flies here. It's not dairy country. Occasionally a
fly enters, but usually leaves again immediately.
>Actually, it was the same in Buonconvento in early May '03;
>the 4* hotel refused to turn on the air-conditioner on a
>very hot night (claimed the government didn't allow it
>before a certain date), so we had to open the windows wide -
>with an invasion of assorted bugs.
It's true that there are laws about when heating and air conditioning
can be used. When there are unusually unseasonable temperatures, the
governement often gives the OK to override them. These laws are
regional, so they vary from place to place.
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>I read it all, understood your point of view, and disagree
>entirely:-)
I was trying to state the Italian point of view, which I don't
completely share. I prefer to sleep with the windows open when the
temperature is above about 8 degrees Celsius.
>"First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed
>in the historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons"
>Not if they are properly designed. Come out here and look
>around.
They still wouldn't be allowed in most historical centers, which have
to preserve a certain historical look.
>"Second, screens do impede the circulation of air. You get a
>much better breeze without them."
>Sorry, but that just not true with modern fine-mesh screens.
>And you sure get a better movement of air than you do
>through a window that had to be closed to keep out the bugs
>and flies.
Italians don't keep the windows closed to keep out bugs. They are
trying to keep out the air at night.
>I didn't expect to find the total lack of screens that I did
>in Europe. And, as the spring turned to summer, I was
>surprised to find there were nearly as many flies in the
>European country towns as we get back here - all those
>cattle should have been a clue.
>Maybe it's different in Italy. But, in Mycenae (tiny flies
>kept invading the wine-jug in the restaurant), Zbraslav
>(Prague, moths), Seeg (Bavaria, flies) and many other little
>country villages the insects were a problem that we noticed
>and everyone else blithely ignored.
We don't have many flies here. It's not dairy country. Occasionally a
fly enters, but usually leaves again immediately.
>Actually, it was the same in Buonconvento in early May '03;
>the 4* hotel refused to turn on the air-conditioner on a
>very hot night (claimed the government didn't allow it
>before a certain date), so we had to open the windows wide -
>with an invasion of assorted bugs.
It's true that there are laws about when heating and air conditioning
can be used. When there are unusually unseasonable temperatures, the
governement often gives the OK to override them. These laws are
regional, so they vary from place to place.
--
Barbara Vaughan
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:00:39 +0200, Tom Peel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bert Hyman wrote:
>> http://homeowner.marvin.com/products...1D9EAD13661B2F
>>
>OK - they have heard of them in Minneapolis - isn't half the population
>originally German?
Marvin is a nationwide supplier of windows, with a pretty good chunk
of the market.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bert Hyman wrote:
>> http://homeowner.marvin.com/products...1D9EAD13661B2F
>>
>OK - they have heard of them in Minneapolis - isn't half the population
>originally German?
Marvin is a nationwide supplier of windows, with a pretty good chunk
of the market.
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May 3rd 2005, 4:45 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:50:15 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan wrote:
>> On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
>>>screens
>>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
>>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
>>
>>
>> I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
>> my particular corner of Italy.
>>
>> First, screens are ugly ....
>The analysis would make more sense if Italians didn't use those ugly
>rope curtains instead of screen doors.
You think those are ugly? I kind of like them.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan wrote:
>> On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
>>>screens
>>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
>>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
>>
>>
>> I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
>> my particular corner of Italy.
>>
>> First, screens are ugly ....
>The analysis would make more sense if Italians didn't use those ugly
>rope curtains instead of screen doors.
You think those are ugly? I kind of like them.
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May 3rd 2005, 4:48 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:24 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:27 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:08:21 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>><Windows screens are similar to a filter that blocks insects from
>>>>flying in
>>>>through the windws, yet allows vision outside and breeze inside.
>>>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
>>>>screens
>>>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
>>>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
>>>I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
>>>my particular corner of Italy.
>>>First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed in the
>>>historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons: the only window
>>>fixtures allowed, other than the glass, are the traditional wooden
>>>shutters, painted green. Outside the historical center, the rules are
>>>much more flexible, but screens are still perceived as ugly.
>>The screens are on the inside of the house and are not visible from
>>outside.
>If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
The windows and doors either open outwards or slide sideways.
>In any case, they're ugly from inside the house also.
better than being eaten by mosquitoes all night.
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:27 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:08:21 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On 2 May 2005 22:38:50 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>><Windows screens are similar to a filter that blocks insects from
>>>>flying in
>>>>through the windws, yet allows vision outside and breeze inside.
>>>>Considering how many European hotels lack air conditioning, window
>>>>screens
>>>>would be useful in controlling mosquitoes access to sleeping quarters
>>>>without the guests stifling to death due to lack of air circulation.
>>>I can't speak for all Europe, but I can give a little perspective on
>>>my particular corner of Italy.
>>>First, screens are ugly and would probably not be allowed in the
>>>historical center of my town for aesthetic reasons: the only window
>>>fixtures allowed, other than the glass, are the traditional wooden
>>>shutters, painted green. Outside the historical center, the rules are
>>>much more flexible, but screens are still perceived as ugly.
>>The screens are on the inside of the house and are not visible from
>>outside.
>If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
The windows and doors either open outwards or slide sideways.
>In any case, they're ugly from inside the house also.
better than being eaten by mosquitoes all night.
May 3rd 2005, 4:49 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:24 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 3 May 2005 06:56:12 -0700, "Wierd Travelers" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Here in Germany(Rheinland-Pfalz and Hessen), most people sleep with the
>>windows open, even during the winter.
>>Also almost all windows have a complete system with built in metal
>>shutters(without as many holes) that roll up over the door way, and the
>>windows can be open all the way, or have a middle position when the top
>>part of the window tilts into the house. Do wish I could get thoses in
>>the US.
>My husband has those at his studio, but we have more old-fashioned
>windows at home.
>>For the most part insects are rare so they screens are not really
>>needed, however I have seen a few houses with them built in, primarily
>>in the bedrooms. What you do find a little more often are screens with
>>sticky tape on them which can be purchased and placed on the outside.
>I really like the screen we have in our bedroom, which rolls up and
>down like a window shade. When it's up, it can't be seen at all from
>the inside, and barely at all from the outside.
The screen in our bedroom rolls into what looks like a door frame.
>On 3 May 2005 06:56:12 -0700, "Wierd Travelers" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Here in Germany(Rheinland-Pfalz and Hessen), most people sleep with the
>>windows open, even during the winter.
>>Also almost all windows have a complete system with built in metal
>>shutters(without as many holes) that roll up over the door way, and the
>>windows can be open all the way, or have a middle position when the top
>>part of the window tilts into the house. Do wish I could get thoses in
>>the US.
>My husband has those at his studio, but we have more old-fashioned
>windows at home.
>>For the most part insects are rare so they screens are not really
>>needed, however I have seen a few houses with them built in, primarily
>>in the bedrooms. What you do find a little more often are screens with
>>sticky tape on them which can be purchased and placed on the outside.
>I really like the screen we have in our bedroom, which rolls up and
>down like a window shade. When it's up, it can't be seen at all from
>the inside, and barely at all from the outside.
The screen in our bedroom rolls into what looks like a door frame.
May 3rd 2005, 4:50 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:25 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:15:06 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>>window tries to fall out?
>Yes, that happened to me once at my husband's studio. It's a heavy
>damn window, too.
Try it, if ever you are legless.
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:15:06 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>>window tries to fall out?
>Yes, that happened to me once at my husband's studio. It's a heavy
>damn window, too.
Try it, if ever you are legless.
May 3rd 2005, 7:00 pm
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:48:23 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:24 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
>The windows and doors either open outwards or slide sideways.
And how do you reach them to slide them if they're outside the screen?
>>In any case, they're ugly from inside the house also.
>better than being eaten by mosquitoes all night.
Mosquitoes pretty much ignore me; my husband is the one who gets
bitten. However, there aren't really that many moquitoes here and
we're on the second floor, which seems to help. He doesn't usually get
many bites. I can go whole summers without a single bite. In the US,
we once moved into a house that had fleas. When the kids got bitten I
assumed it was mosquitoes, but when I got two bites in a single day, I
knew immediately that it couldn't be mosquitoes.
A novelty in Italy is the "tiger mosquito". Very small and aggressive,
but mostly a bother outdoors in the daytime because they stay very
near the ground. These little bastards even bite me, but still not
very often.
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>On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:24 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
>The windows and doors either open outwards or slide sideways.
And how do you reach them to slide them if they're outside the screen?
>>In any case, they're ugly from inside the house also.
>better than being eaten by mosquitoes all night.
Mosquitoes pretty much ignore me; my husband is the one who gets
bitten. However, there aren't really that many moquitoes here and
we're on the second floor, which seems to help. He doesn't usually get
many bites. I can go whole summers without a single bite. In the US,
we once moved into a house that had fleas. When the kids got bitten I
assumed it was mosquitoes, but when I got two bites in a single day, I
knew immediately that it couldn't be mosquitoes.
A novelty in Italy is the "tiger mosquito". Very small and aggressive,
but mostly a bother outdoors in the daytime because they stay very
near the ground. These little bastards even bite me, but still not
very often.
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May 3rd 2005, 8:18 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Tue, 03 May 2005 21:00:55 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:48:23 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:24 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
>>The windows and doors either open outwards or slide sideways.
>And how do you reach them to slide them if they're outside the screen?
Guess :-)
>On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:48:23 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:24 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>If your screens are on the inside, how do you open the windows?
>>The windows and doors either open outwards or slide sideways.
>And how do you reach them to slide them if they're outside the screen?
Guess :-)
May 3rd 2005, 8:50 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
> The only ones I have ever seen, like the ones in our apartment,
> always open inwards.
Some (all?) of hotels in St. Petersburg have the outwardly opening
variety. Many of the fixtures in St. Petersburg hotels are Finnish,
so I wonder if this variant is Finnish only.
Pete
> always open inwards.
Some (all?) of hotels in St. Petersburg have the outwardly opening
variety. Many of the fixtures in St. Petersburg hotels are Finnish,
so I wonder if this variant is Finnish only.
Pete