Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
Feb 13th 2005, 7:38 pm
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
>ScrÃobh Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]>:
>>Not so. To be anglicised, an expression needs first to exist in
>>another language. From its inception, the airline was given the name
>>"Air Lingus" in both Gaelic and English.
>Hush now and let me get on with stirring israel_t
Feel free. But israel_t seems not to need much stirring.
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>ScrÃobh Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]>:
>>Not so. To be anglicised, an expression needs first to exist in
>>another language. From its inception, the airline was given the name
>>"Air Lingus" in both Gaelic and English.
>Hush now and let me get on with stirring israel_t
Feel free. But israel_t seems not to need much stirring.
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Feb 13th 2005, 8:01 pm
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
"A Mate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rudest air line check in person I've ever encountered was at Dublin
> Airport. She worked for the Airport, and was handling check in for
> Lufthansa. Hung Over!! She opened her booth late, after sitting head in
> hands for 20 minutes. We were travelling Business Class, and she obviously
> thought she 'had' us in the wrong queue! Made us weigh our (smallish)
> carry on - even though we were entitled to two carry ons. Questioned us on
> matters of no concern to her, delayed issuing our boarding passes for no
> obvious reason. She was the only rude person we encountered in 2 weeks in
> the country - but she took the shine right off the Irish experience for
> us. Sadly when we talk about Ireland - we always seem to get back to the
> ogre at Dublin airport!!
> Pity Really!!!
> "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "wundrun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1WvPd.123$d%[email protected]...
>>> Everyone I've ever asked about Aer Lingus has had an awful story to
>>> tell. This really surprised me. I'm planning a trip to Ireland and was
>>> thinking of taking Aer Lingus from New York but now I'm rethinking that.
>>> Too many stories about terrible service on board, terrible service at
>>> the airport, terrible food, rude flight attendants (this really
>>> surprised me!). It's a bit shocking, I always thought the Irish were
>>> friendly. Or at last that's their reputation, since I've never been
>>> there. Is Aer Lingus that bad? I'd be interested to hear people's
>>> opinions here. Oh, and what does "Lingus" mean?
>> I honestly don't think that Aer Lingus "does" have a bad reputation at
>> all. I have always found them the epitomy of courtesy and helpfulness
>> actually. Are you sure you are not confusing them with Ryanair??
>> A certain difference, it has to be said!
>> --
>> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
Interesting to see this is probably the longest running continuously cross
posted thread and not one comment from Joe. Maybe this is allowed somewhere
in his "rules". Just as well Jim didn't post it or it would have been
objected to after the first posting.
Doug
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> Rudest air line check in person I've ever encountered was at Dublin
> Airport. She worked for the Airport, and was handling check in for
> Lufthansa. Hung Over!! She opened her booth late, after sitting head in
> hands for 20 minutes. We were travelling Business Class, and she obviously
> thought she 'had' us in the wrong queue! Made us weigh our (smallish)
> carry on - even though we were entitled to two carry ons. Questioned us on
> matters of no concern to her, delayed issuing our boarding passes for no
> obvious reason. She was the only rude person we encountered in 2 weeks in
> the country - but she took the shine right off the Irish experience for
> us. Sadly when we talk about Ireland - we always seem to get back to the
> ogre at Dublin airport!!
> Pity Really!!!
> "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "wundrun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1WvPd.123$d%[email protected]...
>>> Everyone I've ever asked about Aer Lingus has had an awful story to
>>> tell. This really surprised me. I'm planning a trip to Ireland and was
>>> thinking of taking Aer Lingus from New York but now I'm rethinking that.
>>> Too many stories about terrible service on board, terrible service at
>>> the airport, terrible food, rude flight attendants (this really
>>> surprised me!). It's a bit shocking, I always thought the Irish were
>>> friendly. Or at last that's their reputation, since I've never been
>>> there. Is Aer Lingus that bad? I'd be interested to hear people's
>>> opinions here. Oh, and what does "Lingus" mean?
>> I honestly don't think that Aer Lingus "does" have a bad reputation at
>> all. I have always found them the epitomy of courtesy and helpfulness
>> actually. Are you sure you are not confusing them with Ryanair??
>> A certain difference, it has to be said!
>> --
>> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
Interesting to see this is probably the longest running continuously cross
posted thread and not one comment from Joe. Maybe this is allowed somewhere
in his "rules". Just as well Jim didn't post it or it would have been
objected to after the first posting.
Doug
Feb 13th 2005, 8:29 pm
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> writes:
>>Hush now and let me get on with stirring israel_t
> Feel free. But israel_t seems not to need much stirring.
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Days and nights has thirty-one
Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
Boil thou first i' the charmed pot!
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Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing,--
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Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble.
Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf,
Witch's mummy, maw and gulf
Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark,
Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark,
Liver of blaspheming Jew,
Gall of goat, and slips of yew
Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse,
Nose of Turk, and Tartar's lips,
Finger of birth-strangl'd babe
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>>Hush now and let me get on with stirring israel_t
> Feel free. But israel_t seems not to need much stirring.
Round about the caldron go;
In the poison'd entrails throw.--
Toad, that under cold stone,
Days and nights has thirty-one
Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
Boil thou first i' the charmed pot!
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing,--
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble.
Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf,
Witch's mummy, maw and gulf
Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark,
Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark,
Liver of blaspheming Jew,
Gall of goat, and slips of yew
Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse,
Nose of Turk, and Tartar's lips,
Finger of birth-strangl'd babe
Ditch-deliver'd by a drab,--
Make the gruel thick and slab:
Add thereto a tiger's chaudron,
For the ingredients of our caldron.
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
Feb 14th 2005, 12:53 am
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:59 -0500, "wundrun" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Everyone I've ever asked about Aer Lingus has had an awful story to tell.
>This really surprised me. I'm planning a trip to Ireland and was thinking
>of taking Aer Lingus from New York but now I'm rethinking that. Too many
>stories about terrible service on board, terrible service at the airport,
>terrible food, rude flight attendants (this really surprised me!). It's a
>bit shocking, I always thought the Irish were friendly. Or at last that's
>their reputation, since I've never been there. Is Aer Lingus that bad? I'd
>be interested to hear people's opinions here. Oh, and what does "Lingus"
>mean?
Aer Lingus' service is certainly no worse than you'll find on any
domestic carrier. And you'll get fed and get amenities on Aer Lingus
that are gone from U.S. carriers. I last flew them about a year ago
and had a nice experience.
The one PITA about Ireland travel, and this has to do with the
open-skies agreement and not Aer Lingus in general, is many flights
from DUB to JFK get sent through SNN for a brief stop.
>Everyone I've ever asked about Aer Lingus has had an awful story to tell.
>This really surprised me. I'm planning a trip to Ireland and was thinking
>of taking Aer Lingus from New York but now I'm rethinking that. Too many
>stories about terrible service on board, terrible service at the airport,
>terrible food, rude flight attendants (this really surprised me!). It's a
>bit shocking, I always thought the Irish were friendly. Or at last that's
>their reputation, since I've never been there. Is Aer Lingus that bad? I'd
>be interested to hear people's opinions here. Oh, and what does "Lingus"
>mean?
Aer Lingus' service is certainly no worse than you'll find on any
domestic carrier. And you'll get fed and get amenities on Aer Lingus
that are gone from U.S. carriers. I last flew them about a year ago
and had a nice experience.
The one PITA about Ireland travel, and this has to do with the
open-skies agreement and not Aer Lingus in general, is many flights
from DUB to JFK get sent through SNN for a brief stop.
Feb 14th 2005, 1:37 am
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
"Cyrus Afzali" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:59 -0500, "wundrun" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Everyone I've ever asked about Aer Lingus has had an awful story to tell.
> >This really surprised me. I'm planning a trip to Ireland and was
thinking
> >of taking Aer Lingus from New York but now I'm rethinking that. Too many
> >stories about terrible service on board, terrible service at the airport,
> >terrible food, rude flight attendants (this really surprised me!). It's
a
> >bit shocking, I always thought the Irish were friendly. Or at last
that's
> >their reputation, since I've never been there. Is Aer Lingus that bad?
I'd
> >be interested to hear people's opinions here. Oh, and what does "Lingus"
> >mean?
> >
> Aer Lingus' service is certainly no worse than you'll find on any
> domestic carrier. And you'll get fed and get amenities on Aer Lingus
> that are gone from U.S. carriers. I last flew them about a year ago
> and had a nice experience.
Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy drinks
in coach.
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:59 -0500, "wundrun" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Everyone I've ever asked about Aer Lingus has had an awful story to tell.
> >This really surprised me. I'm planning a trip to Ireland and was
thinking
> >of taking Aer Lingus from New York but now I'm rethinking that. Too many
> >stories about terrible service on board, terrible service at the airport,
> >terrible food, rude flight attendants (this really surprised me!). It's
a
> >bit shocking, I always thought the Irish were friendly. Or at last
that's
> >their reputation, since I've never been there. Is Aer Lingus that bad?
I'd
> >be interested to hear people's opinions here. Oh, and what does "Lingus"
> >mean?
> >
> Aer Lingus' service is certainly no worse than you'll find on any
> domestic carrier. And you'll get fed and get amenities on Aer Lingus
> that are gone from U.S. carriers. I last flew them about a year ago
> and had a nice experience.
Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy drinks
in coach.
Feb 14th 2005, 1:37 am
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
In message <[email protected]>, israel t
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>"Phred Bear" <[email protected]> writes:
>> The name, Aer Lingus is an anglicisation of the Irish form Aer Loingeas
>> which means Air Fleet.
>Doesnt change the fact that it is misspelled Gaelic.
Even Gaelic is misspelled Gaeilge - or do I mean anglicised?
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<[email protected]> writes
>"Phred Bear" <[email protected]> writes:
>> The name, Aer Lingus is an anglicisation of the Irish form Aer Loingeas
>> which means Air Fleet.
>Doesnt change the fact that it is misspelled Gaelic.
Even Gaelic is misspelled Gaeilge - or do I mean anglicised?
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Feb 14th 2005, 1:52 am
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Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy drinks
> in coach.
As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
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> Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy drinks
> in coach.
As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
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Feb 14th 2005, 2:14 am
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
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> Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
> []
> > Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy
drinks
> > in coach.
> As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
As a policy apparently (this was short haul DUB-LON)
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
> []
> > Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy
drinks
> > in coach.
> As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
As a policy apparently (this was short haul DUB-LON)
Feb 14th 2005, 2:41 am
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:53:31 GMT, Cyrus Afzali <[email protected]>
wrote:
>The one PITA about Ireland travel, and this has to do with the
>open-skies agreement and not Aer Lingus in general, is many flights
>from DUB to JFK get sent through SNN for a brief stop.
Does this still happen? I thought SNN was being bypassed on most
flights.?
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wrote:
>The one PITA about Ireland travel, and this has to do with the
>open-skies agreement and not Aer Lingus in general, is many flights
>from DUB to JFK get sent through SNN for a brief stop.
Does this still happen? I thought SNN was being bypassed on most
flights.?
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Feb 14th 2005, 2:43 am
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:37:03 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy drinks
>in coach.
No champagne? };-)
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy drinks
>in coach.
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Feb 14th 2005, 2:47 am
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
ScrÃobh fox1 <[email protected]>:
>On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:53:31 GMT, Cyrus Afzali <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>The one PITA about Ireland travel, and this has to do with the
>>open-skies agreement and not Aer Lingus in general, is many flights
>>from DUB to JFK get sent through SNN for a brief stop.
>Does this still happen? I thought SNN was being bypassed on most
>flights.?
Half of US flights are required to stop at Shannon
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© Féachadóir
>On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:53:31 GMT, Cyrus Afzali <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>The one PITA about Ireland travel, and this has to do with the
>>open-skies agreement and not Aer Lingus in general, is many flights
>>from DUB to JFK get sent through SNN for a brief stop.
>Does this still happen? I thought SNN was being bypassed on most
>flights.?
Half of US flights are required to stop at Shannon
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"Ná sáruigther Seinglenn
aitreb na lec nime"
© Féachadóir
Feb 14th 2005, 3:40 am
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"Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1grzamo.68dx3qtcg1l6N%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
> > Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > []
> > > Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy
> > > drinks in coach.
> > As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
> As a policy apparently (this was short haul DUB-LON)
British Midland manage to provide a drink and a snack. Ryanair will probably
throw a dead dog on the floor. DUB-LON is very competitive, and they are
shaving every penny they can get. Transatlantic is a totally different
market, and still has bigger margins.
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> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1grzamo.68dx3qtcg1l6N%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
> > Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > []
> > > Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy
> > > drinks in coach.
> > As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
> As a policy apparently (this was short haul DUB-LON)
British Midland manage to provide a drink and a snack. Ryanair will probably
throw a dead dog on the floor. DUB-LON is very competitive, and they are
shaving every penny they can get. Transatlantic is a totally different
market, and still has bigger margins.
J/
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...8415/sr=1-1/re
f=sr_1_11_1/202-2692552-3159852
http://tinypic.com/1ic0f5
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Feb 14th 2005, 3:40 am
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Re: Why do Aer Lingus have such an awful reputation
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "GoldenArse" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> Not so. To be anglicised, an expression needs first to exist in
> >> >> another language. From its inception, the airline was given the name
> >> >> "Air Lingus" in both Gaelic and English.
> >> >
> >> >But your own name is Patrick Walsh as well as Padraig Breathnach.
Explain
> >> >that then........
> >> >
> >> I see no sense or logic in your challenge.
> >>
> >Explain the Anglicisation of your name.
> >
> You anglicised it, not I.
Wrong. Explain the "Welshman" context then.
GA
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> "GoldenArse" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> Not so. To be anglicised, an expression needs first to exist in
> >> >> another language. From its inception, the airline was given the name
> >> >> "Air Lingus" in both Gaelic and English.
> >> >
> >> >But your own name is Patrick Walsh as well as Padraig Breathnach.
Explain
> >> >that then........
> >> >
> >> I see no sense or logic in your challenge.
> >>
> >Explain the Anglicisation of your name.
> >
> You anglicised it, not I.
Wrong. Explain the "Welshman" context then.
GA
Feb 14th 2005, 4:30 am
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The message <[email protected]>
from Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> contains these words:
> ScrÃobh fox1 <[email protected]>:
> >On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:53:31 GMT, Cyrus Afzali <[email protected]>
> >Does this still happen? I thought SNN was being bypassed on most
> >flights.?
> Half of US flights are required to stop at Shannon
Seems pointless - excuse the pun. :-)
from Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> contains these words:
> ScrÃobh fox1 <[email protected]>:
> >On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:53:31 GMT, Cyrus Afzali <[email protected]>
> >Does this still happen? I thought SNN was being bypassed on most
> >flights.?
> Half of US flights are required to stop at Shannon
Seems pointless - excuse the pun. :-)
Feb 14th 2005, 5:05 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1grzamo.68dx3qtcg1l6N%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
> > Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > []
> > > Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy
> drinks
> > > in coach.
> >
> > As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
> >
>
> As a policy apparently (this was short haul DUB-LON)
>
>
>
They will sell you anything you like on the EDI-DUB route (which is now
an all-economy service).
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[email protected] says...
>
> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1grzamo.68dx3qtcg1l6N%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
> > Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > []
> > > Last time I flew Aer Lingus (a year or two ago) they didn't do fizzy
> drinks
> > > in coach.
> >
> > As a policy, or they just didn't have any?
> >
>
> As a policy apparently (this was short haul DUB-LON)
>
>
>
They will sell you anything you like on the EDI-DUB route (which is now
an all-economy service).
--
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administrator, alt.airports.uk.edinburgh
