What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
May 9th 2002, 3:20 pm
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What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
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May 9th 2002, 7:21 pm
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
> given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people who gave the
orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into the allied's.
Walter
After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people who gave the
orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into the allied's.
Walter
May 9th 2002, 11:14 pm
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
Hi
The pictures are a good reminder.
Parts of London Docklands remained flattened into the 1980's.
It is sad to think that some areas were destroyed twice 1914-1918 and 1939-1945.
Futility ?
Peter
The pictures are a good reminder.
Parts of London Docklands remained flattened into the 1980's.
It is sad to think that some areas were destroyed twice 1914-1918 and 1939-1945.
Futility ?
Peter
May 9th 2002, 11:21 pm
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
Le 10 May 2002 02:52:39 GMT, ArtKramr <[email protected]> a écrit :
> To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
Compelling site. I add my gratitude to that already expressed.
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> To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
Compelling site. I add my gratitude to that already expressed.
--
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|BONY#48 ANORAK#11 http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/ Clé Publique :
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May 9th 2002, 11:21 pm
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
"Walter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
>
> After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people who gave the
> orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into
the
> allied's.
>
> Walter
Actually, the Nazi's had their very own bombers and people who gave orders.
> > given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
>
> After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people who gave the
> orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into
the
> allied's.
>
> Walter
Actually, the Nazi's had their very own bombers and people who gave orders.
May 9th 2002, 11:21 pm
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
Le Fri, 10 May 2002 10:28:10 GMT, Rick Jacobs <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> > given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
>> After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people who gave
>> the orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into
> the
>> allied's.
> Actually, the Nazi's had their very own bombers and people who gave orders.
Probably, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think that 'Nazi' takes an
apostrophe in the plural ?
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>> > given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
>> After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people who gave
>> the orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into
> the
>> allied's.
> Actually, the Nazi's had their very own bombers and people who gave orders.
Probably, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think that 'Nazi' takes an
apostrophe in the plural ?
--
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|BONY#48 ANORAK#11 http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/ Clé Publique :
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May 9th 2002, 11:21 pm
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
Why, flame bait for the grammatically ennobled, of course.
"Desmond Coughlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 10 May 2002 10:28:10 GMT, Rick Jacobs
<[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> >> > given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
>
> >> After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people
who
> >> gave the orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into
> > the
> >> allied's.
>
> > Actually, the Nazi's had their very own bombers and people who gave orders.
>
> Probably, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think that 'Nazi' takes an
> apostrophe in the plural ?
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |****#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38 desmond @ noos.fr
> |BONY#48 ANORAK#11 http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/ Clé Publique :
> http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/pgp/pubring.pkr
"Desmond Coughlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 10 May 2002 10:28:10 GMT, Rick Jacobs
<[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> >> > given the fact that no allied group suffered more than the bombers.
>
> >> After looking at such pictures I think that the bombers and the people
who
> >> gave the orders would have fit better into Hitler's Nazi army than into
> > the
> >> allied's.
>
> > Actually, the Nazi's had their very own bombers and people who gave orders.
>
> Probably, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think that 'Nazi' takes an
> apostrophe in the plural ?
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |****#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38 desmond @ noos.fr
> |BONY#48 ANORAK#11 http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/ Clé Publique :
> http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/pgp/pubring.pkr
May 10th 2002, 2:21 am
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
ArtKramr schrieb:
>
> To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
> All are welcome.
>
> Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
Well, I was expecting to see competely flattened cities and piles of burnt bodies
like in Cologne, Hamburg and Dresden, but they all seem to be high altitude aerial
photographs, same kind of stuff the military shows us nowadays of Iraq, Afghanistan
etc. Maybe you should show some pictures of what Europe looked like in 1933?
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>
> To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
> All are welcome.
>
> Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
Well, I was expecting to see competely flattened cities and piles of burnt bodies
like in Cologne, Hamburg and Dresden, but they all seem to be high altitude aerial
photographs, same kind of stuff the military shows us nowadays of Iraq, Afghanistan
etc. Maybe you should show some pictures of what Europe looked like in 1933?
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May 10th 2002, 2:21 am
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
"ArtKramr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website
at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
> All are welcome.
>
>
> Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
The stories you have included made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and a
couple of tears welled up in my eyes.
Incredible.
--
DFM
news:[email protected]...
> To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website
at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
> All are welcome.
>
>
> Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
The stories you have included made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and a
couple of tears welled up in my eyes.
Incredible.
--
DFM
May 10th 2002, 2:21 am
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
>To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>>
>> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>>
>> All are welcome.
>>
>>
>> Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
>The stories you have included made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and a
>couple of tears welled up in my eyes.
>
>Incredible.
>--
>DFM
I wish I could forget some of them.But in the small hours of the night they keep
coming back and won't leave me alone.
Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>>
>> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>>
>> All are welcome.
>>
>>
>> Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
>The stories you have included made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and a
>couple of tears welled up in my eyes.
>
>Incredible.
>--
>DFM
I wish I could forget some of them.But in the small hours of the night they keep
coming back and won't leave me alone.
Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
May 10th 2002, 3:21 am
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
>Hi
>
>The pictures are a good reminder.
>
>Parts of London Docklands remained flattened into the 1980's.
>
>It is sad to think that some areas were destroyed twice 1914-1918 and 1939-1945.
>
>Futility ?
>
>Peter
>
We are drowning in futility. But it is the nature of the human animal to survive no
matter what.
Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
>The pictures are a good reminder.
>
>Parts of London Docklands remained flattened into the 1980's.
>
>It is sad to think that some areas were destroyed twice 1914-1918 and 1939-1945.
>
>Futility ?
>
>Peter
>
We are drowning in futility. But it is the nature of the human animal to survive no
matter what.
Arthur Kramer Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
May 10th 2002, 3:21 am
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Re: What did Europe look like in 1944-45?
On 10 May 2002 02:52:39 GMT, [email protected] (ArtKramr) wrote:
>To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
>All are welcome.
>
Thanks, but coming from a German family who narrowly avoided destruction on the
eastern front when the Russian army piled in through Prussia (evacuated by the German
army at the last second), and living with those stories and photos, I don't need any
reminders. My family lost everything in the war; my grandfather was a publisher and
an employee of his *hitchhiked* across war-destroyed Germany to bring him several
million marks stuffed into two suitcases. A year afterwards, all the money was
worthless. On a day my dad stayed home from school, the school was bombed and half
his classmates still in school (equivalent of jr high) were killed. And so on.
A truly cool book: The World Is Already Yours Conscious living in the real world
www.alreadyyours.com (sample chapter, etc...)
>To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
>All are welcome.
>
Thanks, but coming from a German family who narrowly avoided destruction on the
eastern front when the Russian army piled in through Prussia (evacuated by the German
army at the last second), and living with those stories and photos, I don't need any
reminders. My family lost everything in the war; my grandfather was a publisher and
an employee of his *hitchhiked* across war-destroyed Germany to bring him several
million marks stuffed into two suitcases. A year afterwards, all the money was
worthless. On a day my dad stayed home from school, the school was bombed and half
his classmates still in school (equivalent of jr high) were killed. And so on.
A truly cool book: The World Is Already Yours Conscious living in the real world
www.alreadyyours.com (sample chapter, etc...)
May 10th 2002, 3:21 am
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[email protected] (ArtKramr) wrote:
>I wish I could forget some of them.But in the small hours of the night they keep
>coming back and won't leave me alone.
>
I'm glad that you say that. It's not that I want you to be troubled, but I am pleased
that you are sufficiently humane that such things trouble you.
I worry about the bastards who don't care.
PB
>I wish I could forget some of them.But in the small hours of the night they keep
>coming back and won't leave me alone.
>
I'm glad that you say that. It's not that I want you to be troubled, but I am pleased
that you are sufficiently humane that such things trouble you.
I worry about the bastards who don't care.
PB
May 10th 2002, 5:21 am
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[email protected] (ArtKramr) wrote:
>>>I wish I could forget some of them.But in the small hours of the night they keep
>>>coming back and won't leave me alone.
>>>
>>I'm glad that you say that. It's not that I want you to be troubled, but I am
>>pleased that you are sufficiently humane that such things trouble you.
>>
>>I worry about the bastards who don't care.
>>
>>PB
>
>
>I don't believe that anyone who has been to war "doesn't care". Their denials are
>just whistling in the dark.
>
I would like to believe that.
I suspect that some of those who sent them didn't care enough.
PB
>>>I wish I could forget some of them.But in the small hours of the night they keep
>>>coming back and won't leave me alone.
>>>
>>I'm glad that you say that. It's not that I want you to be troubled, but I am
>>pleased that you are sufficiently humane that such things trouble you.
>>
>>I worry about the bastards who don't care.
>>
>>PB
>
>
>I don't believe that anyone who has been to war "doesn't care". Their denials are
>just whistling in the dark.
>
I would like to believe that.
I suspect that some of those who sent them didn't care enough.
PB
May 10th 2002, 5:21 am
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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>
> Le 10 May 2002 02:52:39 GMT, ArtKramr <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> > To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
> >
> > http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
> Compelling site. I add my gratitude to that already expressed.
>
Likewise.
>
> Le 10 May 2002 02:52:39 GMT, ArtKramr <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> > To get an idea of what europe looked like in 1944-45, visit my website at:
> >
> > http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>
> Compelling site. I add my gratitude to that already expressed.
>
Likewise.
