What countries can you go topless in?
May 4th 2005, 11:28 am
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
<[email protected]> wrote:
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
[]
> > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
> > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most European
> > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
> their
> > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
> northern
> > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
> > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
[]
> which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
Not really- just shows extremes in US society. It is certainly the case
that US broadcast media tends to be more conservative wrt nudity. I
don't usually see topless women walking down the street in Manchester,
either, but the top selling newspaper in the country has them on page 3.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
[]
> > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
> > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most European
> > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
> their
> > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
> northern
> > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
> > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
[]
> which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
Not really- just shows extremes in US society. It is certainly the case
that US broadcast media tends to be more conservative wrt nudity. I
don't usually see topless women walking down the street in Manchester,
either, but the top selling newspaper in the country has them on page 3.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 4th 2005, 11:36 am
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
On 4 May 2005 04:25:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
... > Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
... >
... > > jcoulter wrote:
... > >
... > > > while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a
... young man
... > > > lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about
... which time
... > > > the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of
... happy
... > > > tourists with something about which to talk.
... > >
... > > Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
... > > uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
... > > sunbathing or swimming.
... >
... > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
... > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most European
... > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
... their
... > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
... northern
... > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
... > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
... >
... > --
... > David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
... > usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
...
... which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
Oh, but there were chiiiiiiiiiiiiildruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnn watching ! Horrors ! They can
suckle a nipple, but not see it on TV !
electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
... > Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
... >
... > > jcoulter wrote:
... > >
... > > > while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a
... young man
... > > > lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about
... which time
... > > > the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of
... happy
... > > > tourists with something about which to talk.
... > >
... > > Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
... > > uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
... > > sunbathing or swimming.
... >
... > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
... > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most European
... > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
... their
... > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
... northern
... > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
... > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
... >
... > --
... > David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
... > usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
...
... which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
Oh, but there were chiiiiiiiiiiiiildruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnn watching ! Horrors ! They can
suckle a nipple, but not see it on TV !
May 4th 2005, 11:49 am
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
parts of the beach area.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
parts of the beach area.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 4th 2005, 11:57 am
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:14 +0100, chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th'
barn wrote:
> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> jcoulter wrote:
>>
>>> while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a young man
>>> lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about which time
>>> the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of happy
>>> tourists with something about which to talk.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
>> uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
>> sunbathing or swimming.
>
> I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
> nude and topless beaches,
> and I get the impression that most European
> women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than their
> own anyway. ...
I disagree, with the possible exception of the British. You just see more
down south because it's warmer, and there are more people on holiday.
Non-southerners also enjoy going nude at home as well, it's just that the
weather doesn't always play along.
> Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly) northern
> Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
> when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
You're right there, I think.
There are a number of swimming lakes nearby and topless bathing is
perfectly normal everywhere. it's up to the person. Some do some don't.
Most have an area set-aside for nude (sun-) bathing. Some go nude on the
normal beach if there is no special nude area set aside. It's normal.
If you don#t like the look of naked top halves, then don't look. It's not
as if they come up to you and jiggle them in your face.
--
Tim C.
barn wrote:
> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> jcoulter wrote:
>>
>>> while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a young man
>>> lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about which time
>>> the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of happy
>>> tourists with something about which to talk.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
>> uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
>> sunbathing or swimming.
>
> I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
> nude and topless beaches,
> and I get the impression that most European
> women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than their
> own anyway. ...
I disagree, with the possible exception of the British. You just see more
down south because it's warmer, and there are more people on holiday.
Non-southerners also enjoy going nude at home as well, it's just that the
weather doesn't always play along.
> Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly) northern
> Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
> when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
You're right there, I think.
There are a number of swimming lakes nearby and topless bathing is
perfectly normal everywhere. it's up to the person. Some do some don't.
Most have an area set-aside for nude (sun-) bathing. Some go nude on the
normal beach if there is no special nude area set aside. It's normal.
If you don#t like the look of naked top halves, then don't look. It's not
as if they come up to you and jiggle them in your face.
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 12:08 pm
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 13:36:23 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 4 May 2005 04:25:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
<snip>
> ... which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
>Oh, but there were chiiiiiiiiiiiiildruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnn watching ! Horrors ! They can
>suckle a nipple, but not see it on TV !
but could you hang your hat on it?
wrote:
>On 4 May 2005 04:25:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
<snip>
> ... which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
>Oh, but there were chiiiiiiiiiiiiildruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnn watching ! Horrors ! They can
>suckle a nipple, but not see it on TV !
but could you hang your hat on it?
May 4th 2005, 12:09 pm
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On 4 May 2005 04:25:25 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
Storm in a D cup?
>which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
Storm in a D cup?
May 4th 2005, 12:27 pm
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On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:49:50 +0100, chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th'
barn wrote:
> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> []
>> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
>> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
>> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
>> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
>> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
>
> I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
> in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
> wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
> that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
> beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
> parts of the beach area.
It's not the norm, but it's not uncommon. I suppose it depends on the
country. I've seen little topless/nude bathing in France and Italy (but I
tend to stay near the mountains). A lot in Germany and Austria.
A couple of the lakes in former West Berlin have official nude areas.
People go nude outside these areas of course, if they're busy.
Nearly every lake around here has a nude area, and evn on the banks of the
Danube in Linz it's not uncommom to see bare bums (not to mention the
Donauinsel in Vienna).
.
--
Tim C.
barn wrote:
> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> []
>> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
>> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
>> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
>> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
>> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
>
> I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
> in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
> wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
> that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
> beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
> parts of the beach area.
It's not the norm, but it's not uncommon. I suppose it depends on the
country. I've seen little topless/nude bathing in France and Italy (but I
tend to stay near the mountains). A lot in Germany and Austria.
A couple of the lakes in former West Berlin have official nude areas.
People go nude outside these areas of course, if they're busy.
Nearly every lake around here has a nude area, and evn on the banks of the
Danube in Linz it's not uncommom to see bare bums (not to mention the
Donauinsel in Vienna).
.
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 12:28 pm
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On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:09:18 +0200, nitram wrote:
> On 4 May 2005 04:25:25 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
>
> Storm in a D cup?
Groan!
--
Tim C.
> On 4 May 2005 04:25:25 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
>
> Storm in a D cup?
Groan!
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 12:29 pm
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
> []
> > > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number
of
> > > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most
European
> > > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
> > their
> > > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
> > northern
> > > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty
conservative
> > > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
> []
> > which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
> Not really- just shows extremes in US society. It is certainly the
case
> that US broadcast media tends to be more conservative wrt nudity. I
> don't usually see topless women walking down the street in
Manchester,
> either, but the top selling newspaper in the country has them on page
3.
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Manchester as I remember is rather cold and wet, hence clothing needed.
Page 3 photos taken in a studio.
But Americans are more extreme than Europeans. As I remember the 'Sex
in the City' troupe always wore bra's when having sex.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
> []
> > > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number
of
> > > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most
European
> > > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
> > their
> > > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
> > northern
> > > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty
conservative
> > > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
> []
> > which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused
> Not really- just shows extremes in US society. It is certainly the
case
> that US broadcast media tends to be more conservative wrt nudity. I
> don't usually see topless women walking down the street in
Manchester,
> either, but the top selling newspaper in the country has them on page
3.
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Manchester as I remember is rather cold and wet, hence clothing needed.
Page 3 photos taken in a studio.
But Americans are more extreme than Europeans. As I remember the 'Sex
in the City' troupe always wore bra's when having sex.
May 4th 2005, 12:41 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Manchester as I remember is rather cold and wet, hence clothing needed.
> Page 3 photos taken in a studio.
It still gets hot and sunny here though. Still no topless sunbathers in
Picadilly Gardens.
> But Americans are more extreme than Europeans.
That would _tend_ to be my take on it too, but as with the US, Europe is
a big diverse place, and I wouldn't confuse the attitude towards topless
bathing at mediterranean resorts with all of Europe.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> Manchester as I remember is rather cold and wet, hence clothing needed.
> Page 3 photos taken in a studio.
It still gets hot and sunny here though. Still no topless sunbathers in
Picadilly Gardens.
> But Americans are more extreme than Europeans.
That would _tend_ to be my take on it too, but as with the US, Europe is
a big diverse place, and I wouldn't confuse the attitude towards topless
bathing at mediterranean resorts with all of Europe.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 4th 2005, 12:41 pm
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Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:14 +0100, chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th'
> barn wrote:
>
> > Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> jcoulter wrote:
> >>
> >>> while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a young man
> >>> lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about which time
> >>> the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of happy
> >>> tourists with something about which to talk.
> >>
> >> Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
> >> uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
> >> sunbathing or swimming.
> >
> > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
> > nude and topless beaches,
>
> > and I get the impression that most European
> > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than their
> > own anyway. ...
>
> I disagree, with the possible exception of the British. You just see more
> down south because it's warmer, and there are more people on holiday.
> Non-southerners also enjoy going nude at home as well, it's just that the
> weather doesn't always play along.
Well, I don't spend much of the hotter months holidaying in more
northern parts of Europe, I admit, but it's still not my general
impression. But, you live there. And, of course, you _do_ see topless
sunbathing in the UK- it's not common though on most beaches.
> > Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly) northern
> > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
> > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
>
> You're right there, I think.
>
> There are a number of swimming lakes nearby and topless bathing is
> perfectly normal everywhere. it's up to the person. Some do some don't.
> Most have an area set-aside for nude (sun-) bathing. Some go nude on the
> normal beach if there is no special nude area set aside. It's normal.
> If you don#t like the look of naked top halves, then don't look. It's not
> as if they come up to you and jiggle them in your face.
There's quite a bit of difference between being topless and nude though.
In this thread, I'm seeing the two things thrown about in the same
sentence. Is it normal on a non-nude beach or lakeside in your area to
see someone completely naked (man or woman) then?
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:14 +0100, chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th'
> barn wrote:
>
> > Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> jcoulter wrote:
> >>
> >>> while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a young man
> >>> lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about which time
> >>> the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of happy
> >>> tourists with something about which to talk.
> >>
> >> Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
> >> uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
> >> sunbathing or swimming.
> >
> > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
> > nude and topless beaches,
>
> > and I get the impression that most European
> > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than their
> > own anyway. ...
>
> I disagree, with the possible exception of the British. You just see more
> down south because it's warmer, and there are more people on holiday.
> Non-southerners also enjoy going nude at home as well, it's just that the
> weather doesn't always play along.
Well, I don't spend much of the hotter months holidaying in more
northern parts of Europe, I admit, but it's still not my general
impression. But, you live there. And, of course, you _do_ see topless
sunbathing in the UK- it's not common though on most beaches.
> > Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly) northern
> > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
> > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
>
> You're right there, I think.
>
> There are a number of swimming lakes nearby and topless bathing is
> perfectly normal everywhere. it's up to the person. Some do some don't.
> Most have an area set-aside for nude (sun-) bathing. Some go nude on the
> normal beach if there is no special nude area set aside. It's normal.
> If you don#t like the look of naked top halves, then don't look. It's not
> as if they come up to you and jiggle them in your face.
There's quite a bit of difference between being topless and nude though.
In this thread, I'm seeing the two things thrown about in the same
sentence. Is it normal on a non-nude beach or lakeside in your area to
see someone completely naked (man or woman) then?
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 4th 2005, 12:47 pm
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:49:50 +0100,
[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy
of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>[]
>> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
>> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
>> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
>> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
>> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
>I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
>in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
>wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
>that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
>beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
>parts of the beach area.
>--
I can certainly understand why nude bathing would be popular
in Europe. The warm season is hardly long enough to justify
the cost of swimwear, and the northern Europeans, in
particular, struck me as eminently practical and wisely
frugal people.
Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
must have it's dangers.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy
of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>[]
>> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
>> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
>> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
>> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
>> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
>I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
>in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
>wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
>that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
>beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
>parts of the beach area.
>--
I can certainly understand why nude bathing would be popular
in Europe. The warm season is hardly long enough to justify
the cost of swimwear, and the northern Europeans, in
particular, struck me as eminently practical and wisely
frugal people.
Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
must have it's dangers.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
May 4th 2005, 12:50 pm
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Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
> countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
>
> Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
> must have it's dangers.
As a kid in Scotland, we would usually start going to the beach around
early June, and this could continue until the middle or sometimes even
end of August- providing it was sunny, which wasn't always guaranteed.
In Norway, I never visit beaches though they do exist in some places I'm
told, but have bathed in the Fjords there and even freshwater lakes,
which are often even warmer. It all depends what you are used to.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
> countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
>
> Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
> must have it's dangers.
As a kid in Scotland, we would usually start going to the beach around
early June, and this could continue until the middle or sometimes even
end of August- providing it was sunny, which wasn't always guaranteed.
In Norway, I never visit beaches though they do exist in some places I'm
told, but have bathed in the Fjords there and even freshwater lakes,
which are often even warmer. It all depends what you are used to.
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David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 4th 2005, 12:53 pm
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Re: What countries can you go topless in?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 22:47:34 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:49:50 +0100,
>[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy
>of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>>[]
>>> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
>>> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
>>> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
>>> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
>>> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
>>I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
>>in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
>>wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
>>that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
>>beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
>>parts of the beach area.
>>--
>I can certainly understand why nude bathing would be popular
>in Europe. The warm season is hardly long enough to justify
>the cost of swimwear, and the northern Europeans, in
>particular, struck me as eminently practical and wisely
>frugal people.
>Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
>countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
>Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
>must have it's dangers.
Summer in NL was last Sunday, the forecast for Monday actually said
that summer would finish on Monday. It didn't mention that by
Wednesday it would be winter again.
>On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:49:50 +0100,
>[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy
>of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>>[]
>>> After extensive travel in various parts of the world, I just realized
>>> for myself that truths and values are closely related to time and place.
>>> When I'm in the US, it would never come into my mind to swim or sunbathe
>>> with no proper dress (or even argue for the freedom to do so), in Europe
>>> I hardly would visit places where I would have to swim dressed.
>>I wonder how extensive your travel is then? There are many nude beaches
>>in the US. I can't think offhand of a US beach area I was in where there
>>wasn't a nude beach nearby. If nude bathing is the norm in Europe well,
>>that's certainly news to me. As with the US, I've usually found nude
>>beaches either through research or by finding my way to more remote
>>parts of the beach area.
>>--
>I can certainly understand why nude bathing would be popular
>in Europe. The warm season is hardly long enough to justify
>the cost of swimwear, and the northern Europeans, in
>particular, struck me as eminently practical and wisely
>frugal people.
>Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
>countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
>Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
>must have it's dangers.
Summer in NL was last Sunday, the forecast for Monday actually said
that summer would finish on Monday. It didn't mention that by
Wednesday it would be winter again.
May 4th 2005, 12:55 pm
#90
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Posts: n/a
Re: What countries can you go topless in?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:50:50 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
>> countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
>>
>> Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
>> must have it's dangers.
>As a kid in Scotland, we would usually start going to the beach around
>early June, and this could continue until the middle or sometimes even
>end of August- providing it was sunny, which wasn't always guaranteed.
>In Norway, I never visit beaches though they do exist in some places I'm
>told, but have bathed in the Fjords there and even freshwater lakes,
>which are often even warmer. It all depends what you are used to.
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...?subchanneSexy photos
still
causing headaches
AMSTERDAM — The primary school teacher who was told to stay home a
week for
appearing in skimpy clothing in a men's magazine has admitted she
tried to
prevent the publication of new photos of herself and girlfriend
Durkje.
Ingrid — who works at the public school 't Holdersnêst in the
Friesland
village of Harkema — was the subject of feverish attention last week
when
photos of herself at an erotic fair in Utrecht were published in the
April
issue of the magazine Foxy.
Three new photos of the two women now appear in the May issue of the
magazine.
Editor-in-chief Peter Muller said the latest issue was already
printed
prior to the controversy sparked by the April
edition. He said its publication could not have been prevented.
Muller has also asked Ingrid to participate in a "glamorous" photo
shoot,
but has not received a response.
The director of the 't Holdersnêst school, Willem Wouda, revealed on
Saturday that Ingrid had been advised to stay home for a week while
the
storm raged around her.
She will remain at home until the media attention fades. "We are
assessing
the situation every day," the general director of school foundation
ROOBOL,
Joekie Blom, said on Wednesday.
Parents of the school pupils were recently informed about the photos,
but
the school has ruled out taking disciplinary action against the
teacher.
Admitting it was a very uncomfortable matter, Wouda said "as a
teacher, you
set an example, but this is of course not a hanging offence".
The photos of Ingrid and Durkje have also attracted international
attention,
with magazines and websites from Ireland, France and Germany
contacting
Foxy, the biggest sex magazine in the Netherlands.
And in Friesland, all copies of the magazine were sold out and
subscriptions
in the northern province have risen explosively, editor Muller said.
As a form of thanks for the free publicity, the magazine's editors
have
decided to take Ingrid and Durkje and their partners out to dinner.
"They've earned that," Muller said.
[Copyright Expatica News + ANP 2005]
Subject: Dutch news
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> Which day will officially be summer in Scotland and the
>> countries surrounding the Baltic this year?
>>
>> Although sitting naked on those pebble and stone beaches
>> must have it's dangers.
>As a kid in Scotland, we would usually start going to the beach around
>early June, and this could continue until the middle or sometimes even
>end of August- providing it was sunny, which wasn't always guaranteed.
>In Norway, I never visit beaches though they do exist in some places I'm
>told, but have bathed in the Fjords there and even freshwater lakes,
>which are often even warmer. It all depends what you are used to.
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...?subchanneSexy photos
still
causing headaches
AMSTERDAM — The primary school teacher who was told to stay home a
week for
appearing in skimpy clothing in a men's magazine has admitted she
tried to
prevent the publication of new photos of herself and girlfriend
Durkje.
Ingrid — who works at the public school 't Holdersnêst in the
Friesland
village of Harkema — was the subject of feverish attention last week
when
photos of herself at an erotic fair in Utrecht were published in the
April
issue of the magazine Foxy.
Three new photos of the two women now appear in the May issue of the
magazine.
Editor-in-chief Peter Muller said the latest issue was already
printed
prior to the controversy sparked by the April
edition. He said its publication could not have been prevented.
Muller has also asked Ingrid to participate in a "glamorous" photo
shoot,
but has not received a response.
The director of the 't Holdersnêst school, Willem Wouda, revealed on
Saturday that Ingrid had been advised to stay home for a week while
the
storm raged around her.
She will remain at home until the media attention fades. "We are
assessing
the situation every day," the general director of school foundation
ROOBOL,
Joekie Blom, said on Wednesday.
Parents of the school pupils were recently informed about the photos,
but
the school has ruled out taking disciplinary action against the
teacher.
Admitting it was a very uncomfortable matter, Wouda said "as a
teacher, you
set an example, but this is of course not a hanging offence".
The photos of Ingrid and Durkje have also attracted international
attention,
with magazines and websites from Ireland, France and Germany
contacting
Foxy, the biggest sex magazine in the Netherlands.
And in Friesland, all copies of the magazine were sold out and
subscriptions
in the northern province have risen explosively, editor Muller said.
As a form of thanks for the free publicity, the magazine's editors
have
decided to take Ingrid and Durkje and their partners out to dinner.
"They've earned that," Muller said.
[Copyright Expatica News + ANP 2005]
Subject: Dutch news