Nitram

On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:35:49 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:16:16 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Other forms of erotic dressing
    >>and underware might be similar popular in Europe as in the US
    >"underware"?
    >Chastity belts?
    >Tin underpants?

String vests?

Jens Arne Maennig

Alan S wrote:

    > Chastity belts?
    > Tin underpants?
    >
    > Cheers, Alan, Australia

Oh my Gawd. The guys from the Land of No Culture are surfacing again.

Jens

Nitram

On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:03:35 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Alan S wrote:
    >> Chastity belts?
    >> Tin underpants?
    >>
    >> Cheers, Alan, Australia
    >Oh my Gawd. The guys from the Land of No Culture are surfacing again.

in that case Y not underpants with corks to keep the flies away ...

Beach Comber

    > At the beach in Lido, we saw the ugliest, most unappealing pair of
    > breasts imaginable. I wish I hadn't. She was the only person there
    > other than we and we were just looking at it.

You take the bad with the good. I saw a few very attractive Germans
playing in the surf at Lido. My only bad experience was in Cyprus
where the 60+ ladies would come out to the pool to sunbathe while
people were still eating breakfast at the outdoor restaurant. I have
no problem with people of any age going topless, but there are some
thing I really don't want to look at while eating. Gave a good reason
to get up earlier and have breakfast done with.

All in all, my experience with European beaches are that toplessness
may be more or less common but is rarely frowned upon. Europe seems to
weigh more towards personal choice than society as nanny. About the
closest you'll see here in the western hemisphere in the French West
Indies.

Beach Comber
http://worldbeachlist.com/

The Rev Gaston

On 2005-05-03 16:35:49 +0200, Alan S <[email protected]> said:

    > On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:16:16 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Other forms of erotic dressing
    >> and underware might be similar popular in Europe as in the US
    >
    > "underware"?
    >
    > Chastity belts? Tin underpants?

Hiking shorts?

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Bill Moore

In article <[email protected]>,
Mika <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Bill Moore wrote:
    >>
    >> In article <[email protected]>, Tomas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >> Women don't seem to go topless in Sweden. However, in Denmark, it
    >> >> seems to be the norm.
    >> >>
    >> >> Natalie Portman went topless somewhere in the Caribbean:
    >> >> http://www.geocities.com/merdealorsen/eyecandy.html
    >> >>
    >> >> In France, I was a witness to toplessness in Marseille (at the beach)
    >> >> and in La Rochelle. In Greece it is frowned upon and only the Germans
    >> >> and British go sans top.
    >> >>
    >> >> Before you accuse me of being a perv, you have to admit that seeing a
    >> >> few thousand pair of breasts before you is, well, part of Europe's
    >> >> "Je ne sais quoi".
    >> >
    >> >The English Gardens and the banks of of the Isar in Munich.
    >>
    >> Those are the only 2 places I have seen women sunning themselves
    >> topless in Germany. On the Isar they were right outside the Deutches
    >> Museum. Though surely there must be places in e.g. Berlin,
    >> or maybe not!
    >The only 2? Strange. Topless is pretty much the norm.

Even in the Marienplatz? ;-)

    >Full nudity is allowed only in designated areas, although there are lots
    >of those too. In Munich for example in parts of the English Garden and
    >large stretches of the southern part of the Isar, but not the parts
    >right outside the Deutsches Museum.
    >Riding the trams along the English Garden in the nude was banned a few
    >years ago.
    >M

Nitram

On Tue, 3 May 2005 18:21:23 +0200, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On 2005-05-03 16:35:49 +0200, Alan S <[email protected]> said:
    >> On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:16:16 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Other forms of erotic dressing
    >>> and underware might be similar popular in Europe as in the US
    >>
    >> "underware"?
    >>
    >> Chastity belts? Tin underpants?
    >Hiking shorts?

Seen from a dog's point of view?

Keith

"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:35:49 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:16:16 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    > ><[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Other forms of erotic dressing
    > >>and underware might be similar popular in Europe as in the US
    > >
    > >"underware"?
    > >
    > >Chastity belts?
    > >Tin underpants?
    > String vests?

Which reminds me of the time a British gentleman visited my company wearing
a pair of suspenders (US term, british term is "braces", I think.) I gave
him a compliment on how he was dressed, and remarked, "I really should pick
up a pair of suspenders sometime, and see if I like the look". You could
imagine his reaction. Quite funny before we both realized the language
difference.

Keith
Pittsburgh

Jens Arne Maennig

jcoulter wrote:

    > Wet fabric! Actually the fact that the flesh is not totally exposed
    > makes it somehow more desirable.

Okay, just for you, I scanned a picture from my family album. It
features my grandma, her sisters and a cousin in a public pool, probably
near Chemnitz, Germany, about 1925.

http://jam.uttx.net/swimsuit.jpg

As the picture looks a bit battered, it seems a likely supposition that
others were sharing your visual preferences.

Jens

Nitram

On Wed, 4 May 2005 08:56:09 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >jcoulter wrote:
    >> Wet fabric! Actually the fact that the flesh is not totally exposed
    >> makes it somehow more desirable.
    >Okay, just for you, I scanned a picture from my family album. It
    >features my grandma, her sisters and a cousin in a public pool, probably
    >near Chemnitz, Germany, about 1925.
    >http://jam.uttx.net/swimsuit.jpg
    >As the picture looks a bit battered, it seems a likely supposition that
    >others were sharing your visual preferences.

"Cut off my legs and call me shorty"?

Tim Challenger

On Tue, 3 May 2005 22:13:21 -0400, Keith wrote:

    > "nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:35:49 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:16:16 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> Other forms of erotic dressing
    >>>>and underware might be similar popular in Europe as in the US
    >>>"underware"?
    >>>Chastity belts?
    >>>Tin underpants?
    >> String vests?
    >
    > Which reminds me of the time a British gentleman visited my company wearing
    > a pair of suspenders (US term, british term is "braces", I think.) I gave
    > him a compliment on how he was dressed, and remarked, "I really should pick
    > up a pair of suspenders sometime, and see if I like the look". You could
    > imagine his reaction. Quite funny before we both realized the language
    > difference.
    >
    > Keith
    > Pittsburgh

He probably thought your were a Tory MP incognito.
--
Tim C.

Nitram

On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:42:21 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 3 May 2005 22:13:21 -0400, Keith wrote:
    >> "nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:35:49 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:16:16 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>> Other forms of erotic dressing
    >>>>>and underware might be similar popular in Europe as in the US
    >>>>"underware"?
    >>>>Chastity belts?
    >>>>Tin underpants?
    >>> String vests?
    >>
    >> Which reminds me of the time a British gentleman visited my company wearing
    >> a pair of suspenders (US term, british term is "braces", I think.) I gave
    >> him a compliment on how he was dressed, and remarked, "I really should pick
    >> up a pair of suspenders sometime, and see if I like the look". You could
    >> imagine his reaction. Quite funny before we both realized the language
    >> difference.
    >>
    >> Keith
    >> Pittsburgh
    >He probably thought your were a Tory MP incognito.

Does Keith wear bin liners?

Mika

Bill Moore wrote:
    >
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Mika <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >Bill Moore wrote:
    > >>
    > >> In article <[email protected]>, Tomas <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> >> Women don't seem to go topless in Sweden. However, in Denmark, it
    > >> >> seems to be the norm.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Natalie Portman went topless somewhere in the Caribbean:
    > >> >> http://www.geocities.com/merdealorsen/eyecandy.html
    > >> >>
    > >> >> In France, I was a witness to toplessness in Marseille (at the beach)
    > >> >> and in La Rochelle. In Greece it is frowned upon and only the Germans
    > >> >> and British go sans top.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Before you accuse me of being a perv, you have to admit that seeing a
    > >> >> few thousand pair of breasts before you is, well, part of Europe's
    > >> >> "Je ne sais quoi".
    > >> >
    > >> >The English Gardens and the banks of of the Isar in Munich.
    > >>
    > >> Those are the only 2 places I have seen women sunning themselves
    > >> topless in Germany. On the Isar they were right outside the Deutches
    > >> Museum. Though surely there must be places in e.g. Berlin,
    > >> or maybe not!
    > >
    > >The only 2? Strange. Topless is pretty much the norm.
    >
    > Even in the Marienplatz? ;-)

Weren't you talking about 'women sunning themselves'?

M

Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn

Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:

    > jcoulter wrote:
    >
    > > while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a young man
    > > lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about which time
    > > the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of happy
    > > tourists with something about which to talk.
    >
    > Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
    > uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
    > sunbathing or swimming.

I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most European
women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than their
own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly) northern
Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

michaelnewport

chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
    > Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > jcoulter wrote:
    > >
    > > > while cruising along the Rhine in the Netherlands. we passed a
young man
    > > > lying on his stomach, someone observed. "He is naked!" at about
which time
    > > > the young man rolled over and waved. Talk about a boatload of
happy
    > > > tourists with something about which to talk.
    > >
    > > Sometimes I wonder if North Americans are born dressed to feel so
    > > uncomfortable about the most normal state of doing a thing like
    > > sunbathing or swimming.
    > I wouldn't get quite so snooty about it. The US has a fair number of
    > nude and topless beaches, and I get the impression that most European
    > women who do bathe topless tend to do it in countries other than
their
    > own anyway. Many of the mediterannean countries where (mostly)
northern
    > Europeans enjoy going topless and nude tend to be pretty conservative
    > when it comes to public nudity, while bathing or not.
    > --
    > David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
    > usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

which is weird considering the storm Janet Jackson's nipple caused