I might spend a weekend this summer in Warsaw. What are the highlights?
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    >I might spend a weekend this summer in Warsaw. What are the highlights?

Lazienki Park including the Palace on the Water.

Wilanow, and don't forget to visit the poster museum right next door
to the royal castle.

Walk through the old town.

Take the elevator to the observation deck of the Stalin skyscraper
to see a great view of the city.


Pete

I visited Warsaw last summer and wrote all about the things to do and
see here:
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/71f79/727f0/
Very interesting city. I would definitely recommend it.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:20:22 +0200, Alfred Molon
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    >I might spend a weekend this summer in Warsaw. What are the highlights?

Hi Alfred,

Maybe have a look here http://www.ghptravel.com/htm/place/waw2.htm this
section is made by a friend in Warsaw so it should be telling you what you
want to know.

Greetings,
George


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    > I might spend a weekend this summer in Warsaw. What are the highlights?
Best for you is take a train to Cracow (2,35 h). Have a nice time

I'm planning a 2-week trip to Polska in the latter part of August w/
relatives, including my mother, who was born there before WWII. We'd
like to see Warszawa, Krakow, Wislica (where my maternal grandfather
was born), Zemplinska in Slovakia, and Rivne in Ukraine, in the area
where my mother was born.

What's easier and cheaper for transportation, train or car rental? I'd
guess that overnite parking would be complicated and expensive, right?

What's the easiest way to reliably arrange no-unpleasant-surprises
accommodation from the USA? While visiting other European countries, I
stayed in B&Bs that I was able to arrange after arrival in a given
city. But I'd guess that August is crowded, and there'd be fewer
short-notice options.

What about a packaged tour that would include Warszawa and Krakow, with
accommodation and air travel?

TIA.

August is great month to visit Poland and avoid the insanity of Western
Europe (althogh maybe that has changed thanks to Polands admitance to
the EU). In any event, Krakow is the only place you need to worry about
tourist crowds.

Train sucks in Poland. But it is alot cheaper than driving and a great
way to meet locals. Car is alot faster. Heck, walking would be faster
than the train in Poland.

With a full car, I'd recommend it. Since Ukraine is not part of the EU,
find out if you can bring your rental there (insurance, regulaitons
etc...). You probably also need a visa. Make sure you are not
considered a Ukrainian citizen because of your mother (you might be
forced to do your military service) .

Sam

Thanx for the tips about train vs. rental car in Polska, Sam. Probably
would be wise to rent wheels.

Yup, visas are required to visit Ukraina. Visa is U$10, but the
APPLICATION fee is U$100! Kinda pricey.

I checked the Ukraine gov't Web site about citizenship, and there's no
mention of those born in former Polish territory. And, if I've read it
correctly, one would have to be stateless in order to be considered a
Ukrainian citizen by descent. Should be OK. Thanx for the tip.

[email protected] wrote:
    > Train sucks in Poland. But it is alot cheaper than driving and a great
    > way to meet locals. Car is alot faster. Heck, walking would be faster
    > than the train in Poland.

What you don't like about polish trains?
I travel a lot with them, and they are very good, don't crash almost at
all, much better than cars.

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Miernik wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >>Train sucks in Poland. But it is alot cheaper than driving and a great
    >>way to meet locals. Car is alot faster. Heck, walking would be faster
    >>than the train in Poland.
    >
    >
    > What you don't like about polish trains?

They suck ;)






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    > [email protected] wrote:
    >> Train sucks in Poland. But it is alot cheaper than driving and a great
    >> way to meet locals. Car is alot faster. Heck, walking would be faster
    >> than the train in Poland.
    > What you don't like about polish trains?

Try starting with the stupid ticket system with its three classes
of trains and lack of interchangability between them.
Not being able to buy a through ticket from A to B because
the journey requires a change from one class of train to another
is just plain silly.

tim

    > Try starting with the stupid ticket system with its three classes
    > of trains and lack of interchangability between them.
    > Not being able to buy a through ticket from A to B because
    > the journey requires a change from one class of train to another
    > is just plain silly.
Hi all,

and the answer:

1. Buy a pass,
2. Isn't it like this in Spain?

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    >> Try starting with the stupid ticket system with its three classes
    >> of trains and lack of interchangability between them.
    >> Not being able to buy a through ticket from A to B because
    >> the journey requires a change from one class of train to another
    >> is just plain silly.
    > Hi all,
    > and the answer:
    > 1. Buy a pass,

Often not good value in former Eastern European countries.

    > 2. Isn't it like this in Spain?

I think it possibly is, but that's not a good reason to copy it is it.

tim

tim (moved to sweden) wrote:
    > "andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    >>>Try starting with the stupid ticket system with its three classes
    >>>of trains and lack of interchangability between them.
    >>>Not being able to buy a through ticket from A to B because
    >>>the journey requires a change from one class of train to another
    >>>is just plain silly.
    >>2. Isn't it like this in Spain?
    >
    >
    > I think it possibly is, but that's not a good reason to copy it is it.

The railway improvement has to strart with _something_. It cannot go
longer with overblown unions and no investment. It's suspended between
communist times and market economy.

True, I haven't taken a train in Poland for 5 years or so, but I
remember there being _two_ companies, not three. And yes, they are not
interchangable, but it was always like that since I remember. We didn't
take intercity/express trains and that's it. All the other trains are
operated by one company. And buying a ticket on the train/changing the
type of the ticket costs as much as 1,25 € (sometimes half of it). Isn't
that less than London Underground zone 1 single ticket?

    > tim




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    > "andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > >
    > >
    > >> Try starting with the stupid ticket system with its three classes
    > >> of trains and lack of interchangability between them.
    > >> Not being able to buy a through ticket from A to B because
    > >> the journey requires a change from one class of train to another
    > >> is just plain silly.
    > >>
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > and the answer:
    > >
    > > 1. Buy a pass,
    > Often not good value in former Eastern European countries.

?
One week pass for all trains costs 245 z³ which is resonable strarting from
3/4 journeys, and provided u want just to move from point A to point B,
being a tourist usually u can use one company. It's not true that u are "not
able to buy a through ticket from A to B because the journey requires a
change from one class of train to another" - u are not able only if changing
the companies.

It makes troubles more for Poles than for tourists.

    > > 2. Isn't it like this in Spain?
    > I think it possibly is, but that's not a good reason to copy it is it.

Precisely, but it shows, the problem is not a Polish/CEE specialite'.
Anyway, even buying 2 tickets the journey is far cheaper than in the West
and the quality isn't far worse (I don't mean ICE/TGV/AVE of course)

BTW, after years of getting worse Polish railways really seem to have
strated to improve last months

regards