Nightjar

"Hatunen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Pearl Street, built by Edison for the pupose of selling
    > electricity, considered the first commercial central station; it
    > was DC...

Except that Pearl Street opened on 4 September 1882, while, in Brighton
(England), the Hammond Electric Light and Power Co started operation on 27
February 1882.

Colin Bignell

Nightjar

"Gunter Herrmann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > nightjar wrote
    > > I also question the claim that AEG built the first European generating
    > > facility. It certainly built the first modern style power station, the
    > > Klingenburg station, near Berlin, but that was in 1930.
    > Nearly correct: Build 1925/1926, full power of 270 MW available in
    > 1927. At the time it was build it was already part of Berlin
    > (creation of Gross-Berlin in 1920)
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.d...raftwerk.shtml

Thank you. My source, a book written in 1972, was looking at the state of
electricity supply in 1930, when Britain was starting to standardise its
very wide mix of voltages (AC and DC) and AC frequencies. It simply stated
that AEG had just finished the plant. Obviously, a liberal interpretation of
the word 'just'.

    > The first power plant in Berlin was build in 1884
    > Later there were 2 major players in power plant design and
    > construction in Germany: Siemens and AEG.

Siemens also set up a British subsidiary that was important in the
development of electricity supply in Edwardian Britain.

    > BTW: I worked for 2 power plant engineering companies during the
    > redesign of Klingenberg in the 1980s.

I was in the electricity supply industry in the 1970s and ended up on the
committee of Britain's first (and possibly only) electricity museum: the
Milne Museum, now housed in the EDF Electricity Hall at the Amberley Working
Museum.

http://www.amberleymuseum.co.uk/index2.htm

Regards

Colin Bignell

Donald Newcomb

devil <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] >...
    > Such as?

Clothes washers, air conditioners, clocks, old record turntables and
tape players. Probably some older electronics with power supply
filters tuned to 50 Hz. Older TVs.

It's not intended as a universal solution to the voltage problem.
Again, you need to know what you are doing and when this would (and
would not) be appropriate.

Donald Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net

Andrea

Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (Andrea) wrote in
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    >
    > > Both
    > > worked fine in London, and it was my understanding that appliances
    > > from England only needed a plug adapter, not voltage adapter, to work
    > > in Paris.
    >
    > That is correct.
    >
    > > However, I've only seen that the voltage in Paris is 220.
    > > So I was wondering if these appliances that worked in England would in
    > > fact work in Paris with only plug adapters, or if I will need voltage
    > > adapters, or just to buy new French appliances.
    >
    > The difference between 220 and 240 V was irrelevant when it still existed.
    > It is so small that it never caused problems. Nowadays all of the EU is
    > nominally at 230 V anyway. The designations 220 and 240 V are history.
    >


Thanks for your help everybody!
Andrea

Martin Bienwald

Abso schrieb:

    > Ok, I'm being facecious. In fact the mains voltage/freqy in France is
    > exactly the same as the UK at 230V / 50Hz. It's been a long time since
    > there was 240v coming out of UK mains outlets but for the same reasons
    > we still think in Fahrenheit and buy sugar in 1lb bags, we can't seem
    > to get this 240V figure out of our heads.

Just like we can't get the 220V figure out of our German heads ...

... Martin