Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eitmisaactuallyireal!l.nu> wrote:
    >>> >But is beer Vegan if it is made with the help of yeasts ?
    >>> >
    >>> What's wrong with using yeast?
    >>Nothing, unless you are a Vegan - who believe that yeast is animal.

    > Ah. They would be those fruitcakes that refuse to eat anything but
    > sunflower seeds and psyllium husks. I wonder why they are as thin as
    > rakes and really unhealthy looking?

Nope. That would be Fruititarians. Vegans eat all the vegetables and are
usually pretty healthy, and they even cook their food. And it's very possible
to be Vegan and fat, if you have a sweet tooth and like food with oil.

Chocolate can be vegan.

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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:46:21 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eitmisaactuallyireal!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>> >But is beer Vegan if it is made with the help of yeasts ?
    >>>> >
    >>>> What's wrong with using yeast?
    >>>Nothing, unless you are a Vegan - who believe that yeast is animal.
    >> Ah. They would be those fruitcakes that refuse to eat anything but
    >> sunflower seeds and psyllium husks. I wonder why they are as thin as
    >> rakes and really unhealthy looking?
    >Nope. That would be Fruititarians. Vegans eat all the vegetables and are
    >usually pretty healthy, and they even cook their food. And it's very possible
    >to be Vegan and fat, if you have a sweet tooth and like food with oil.
    >Chocolate can be vegan.

But in practice vegans are frequently very thin and lacking in vital
nutrients. Things like calcium, omega-3 (plus all the rest) are hard
to get with a vegan diet.

Plus if you have a high metabolic rate (like me), eating enough food
per day to function properly is very difficult, and requires
considerable effort, and is not always practical for travellers.

I was vege for about 6 months, but couldn't consume enough food to
keep myself going. Merely adding a bit of meat and dairy to the diet
improved my general health greatly.
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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Deep Foiled Malls wrote:

    > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:25:34 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >But is beer Vegan if it is made with the help of yeasts ?
    > Is there something about beer that I didn't know?


Don't drink beer made with vaginal yeasts...

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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Miss L. Toe <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > Nothing, unless you are a Vegan - who believe that yeast is animal.

They don't though. Not usually, anyway.

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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

[]
    > I was vege for about 6 months, but couldn't consume enough food to
    > keep myself going. Merely adding a bit of meat and dairy to the diet
    > improved my general health greatly.

There's a difference though in what's available to a vegetarian as
opposed to a vegan. I managed perfectly fine for 5 years as a
vegetarian, including with quite a bit of travel. It was easy enough,
though it often meant having quite bland food in much (probably most) of
Europe.

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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

I feel a strong need to add something.
Food means almost everywhere in this world Culture, if you reject local
food you reject partly the local culture.I understand the philosophy
behind eating choices, but considering that the majority of us don't
travel unfortunately 365 days a year, I would consider beeing more
flexible in your eating habits while abroad.
It depends on what you want to "taste" during your travel, if you want
to taste the real thing, then you have to compromise on your habits.
I'm not going to eat pork and drink whisky in front of a mosque, even
though I might think that pork and whisky are essential to my diet
and faith, and I will not try to get a beer in Usa only because in my
country I'm not considered under age for getting a beer... see what I
mean?

Fondamentalism whether is faith or eating habits is never going to
broad your horizons.
Peace
Cris

Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Everyone draws a line in sand when it comes to food. Most will not eat
humans, Some will not eat beef, some willnot eat pork or shell fish.
Some will not eat dog, monkey, snakes, cockroches etc. So let not feel
superior making a statement" Iwille at anything to learn the local
culture" it is a bunch of Crap. ( Oh some will not eat crap")
Piss to you
Rag742

Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
    > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:25:34 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
    >>message news:[email protected]...
    >>>On 21 Jun 2005 03:50:01 -0700, "Andreas" <[email protected]>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>>Howdy, y'all; I'm planning a trip to Poland, Slovakia, and Ukraine for
    >>>>latter half of August. One of our group is vegan and only eats what
    >>>>grows in the dirt. Kielbasa is a no-no.
    >>>>Are there vegan choices on menus in restaurants in eastern Europe these
    >>>>days?
    >>>Just go to the local 'bar mleczny' (milk bar), and you will find a
    >>>whole selection of salads and soups for dirt cheap prices. Apart from
    >>>that, hit the closest supermarket, or just resort to drinking the
    >>>excellent Polish beer instead.
    >>But is beer Vegan if it is made with the help of yeasts ?
    >
    >
    > Is there something about beer that I didn't know?

Perhaps that it contains animals. Very small ones but they do produce
CO2. Now another interesting Vegan question since malt scotch contains
an animal byproduct but because of the distilling doesn't actually
contain the animal would it be acceptable. I suppose since milk isn't
acceptable that the answer would be no.

Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

    >>> But is beer Vegan if it is made with the help of yeasts ?
    >> What's wrong with using yeast?
    > Nothing, unless you are a Vegan - who believe that yeast is animal.

They don't. All vegan cookbooks use fermentation products.

I would suggest looking at www.vegansociety.com, except that their
site displays almost nothing on my browser. There's an unfortunate
tendency for websites devoted to alternative lifestyles to forget
there are alternatives to Microsoft.

Yeasts are fungi, which are related to animals but have no nervous
system.

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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:58:34 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Perhaps that it contains animals. Very small ones but they do produce
    >CO2. Now another interesting Vegan question since malt scotch contains
    >an animal byproduct but because of the distilling doesn't actually
    >contain the animal would it be acceptable. I suppose since milk isn't
    >acceptable that the answer would be no.

Note that some vegans will not even eat honey.
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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Martin wrote:

    > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:51:52 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
    > <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:38:06 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected] ...
    >>>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:25:34 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
    >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
    >>>>>message news:[email protected]...
    >>>>>>On 21 Jun 2005 03:50:01 -0700, "Andreas" <[email protected]>
    >>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>Howdy, y'all; I'm planning a trip to Poland, Slovakia, and Ukraine for
    >>>>>>>latter half of August. One of our group is vegan and only eats what
    >>>>>>>grows in the dirt. Kielbasa is a no-no.
    >>>>>>>Are there vegan choices on menus in restaurants in eastern Europe
    >>>these
    >>>>>>>days?
    >>>>>>Just go to the local 'bar mleczny' (milk bar), and you will find a
    >>>>>>whole selection of salads and soups for dirt cheap prices. Apart from
    >>>>>>that, hit the closest supermarket, or just resort to drinking the
    >>>>>>excellent Polish beer instead.
    >>>>>But is beer Vegan if it is made with the help of yeasts ?
    >>>>What's wrong with using yeast?
    >>>Nothing, unless you are a Vegan - who believe that yeast is animal.
    >>Ah. They would be those fruitcakes that refuse to eat anything but
    >>sunflower seeds and psyllium husks. I wonder why they are as thin as
    >>rakes and really unhealthy looking?
    >
    >
    > Googling, I just discovered that at some point Bovril went vegetarian
    > and is based on yeast extract just like marmite and vegemite.
    > OXO balls next?


I would think that yeast extract would be as unacceptable as butter.

Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:16:17 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >> Googling, I just discovered that at some point Bovril went vegetarian
    >> and is based on yeast extract just like marmite and vegemite.
    >> OXO balls next?
    >I would think that yeast extract would be as unacceptable as butter.

Why?
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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Frank F. Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > I would think that yeast extract would be as unacceptable as butter.

Yeast extract isn't an animal product. Yeast is a fungi.

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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:24:57 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:

    >Frank F. Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
    >[]
    >> I would think that yeast extract would be as unacceptable as butter.
    >Yeast extract isn't an animal product. Yeast is a fungi.

Yes!
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Re: Vegan options in Poland?
 

Frank F. Matthews wrote:
    > And are the soups likely to be Vegan?
    >
    >
No, they may contain milk.

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