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Old May 1st 2003 | 6:53 am
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Lester Mosley
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true true.. I dont use flashes.. But I was shocked to see the Louvre
allow it. of the 4000-500 year old paintings..


I respect the art, So I didn't use my flash.. I turned it off.



On 01 May 2003 11:53:26 GMT, greg byshenk
wrote:

    >Jenn wrote:
    >> tom wrote:
    >> > When I was there a few weeks ago, there were signs all over saying no
    >> > flash photography. They didn't seem to care if your camera did not have a
    >> > flash. Nevertheless, there were what seems like hundreds of flahses per
    >> > minute in the Sistine Chapel - The guards kept announcing that flash use
    >> > and talking were not permitted (loud talklng?), but they were pretty much
    >> > ignored by the visitors flashing and talking loudly to each other.
    >
    >> Iinteresting -- I was last in the Sistine myself about 5 years ago and
    >> at that time there was a strict embargo on ANY picture taking because of
    >> the Japanese contract -- perhaps it has expired. I am sort of shocked
    >> that they allowed the flashes -- not good for art.
    >I suspect that I am not alone in wishing that museums would become more
    >heavy-handed in enforcing "no flash" rules.
    >Perhaps something along the lines of: "if it flashes, your camera will
    >be confiscated." The cameras could then be recovered by the owner at
    >the museum exit, after payment of a small fee. (Or not, IMO, but I
    >suspect that not returning them at all would create too many problems.)
 
Old May 1st 2003 | 8:06 am
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James Silverton
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"Lester Mosley" wrote in message
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    > true true.. I dont use flashes.. But I was shocked to see the Louvre
    > allow it. of the 4000-500 year old paintings..
    > I respect the art, So I didn't use my flash.. I turned it off.

As a matter of interest, what harm are amateur electronic flashes supposed
to do? I suppose the dyes, particularly those used for textiles and water
colors, might well tend to be faded by light and, in fact, it is obvious
that some tapestries must once have been much more colorful. I guess it is
not possible to generalize about paints; some of Van Gogh's paintings have
certainly lost their brilliance while much earlier paintings are still
beautifully colored. I don't know whether the loss of color was caused by
chemical reaction or by light. It could also be simpler to have a general
overall rule tho' sculpture is hardly likely to be damaged. It must be a
very long time since a flashbulb capable of explosion was used.


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Old May 5th 2003 | 2:57 am
  #18  
Barbara Vaughan
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greg byshenk wrote:
    >
    > Jenn wrote:
    > > tom wrote:
    >
    > > > When I was there a few weeks ago, there were signs all over saying no
    > > > flash photography. They didn't seem to care if your camera did not have a
    > > > flash. Nevertheless, there were what seems like hundreds of flahses per
    > > > minute in the Sistine Chapel - The guards kept announcing that flash use
    > > > and talking were not permitted (loud talklng?), but they were pretty much
    > > > ignored by the visitors flashing and talking loudly to each other.
    >
    > > Iinteresting -- I was last in the Sistine myself about 5 years ago and
    > > at that time there was a strict embargo on ANY picture taking because of
    > > the Japanese contract -- perhaps it has expired. I am sort of shocked
    > > that they allowed the flashes -- not good for art.
    >
    > I suspect that I am not alone in wishing that museums would become more
    > heavy-handed in enforcing "no flash" rules.
    >
    > Perhaps something along the lines of: "if it flashes, your camera will
    > be confiscated." The cameras could then be recovered by the owner at
    > the museum exit, after payment of a small fee. (Or not, IMO, but I
    > suspect that not returning them at all would create too many problems.)

I was very annoyed by constant flashes during the Verona opera last
year. I'm sure the performers were even more annoyed. My only
satisfaction was knowing that all of those pictures would be of nothing
more than the heads in the next row, as they were too far from the stage
for the flash to be of any use.

Barbara
 
Old May 5th 2003 | 5:29 am
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Jenn
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In article ,
Barbara Vaughan wrote:

    > greg byshenk wrote:
    > >
    > > Jenn wrote:
    > > > tom wrote:
    > >
    > > > > When I was there a few weeks ago, there were signs all over saying no
    > > > > flash photography. They didn't seem to care if your camera did not
    > > > > have a
    > > > > flash. Nevertheless, there were what seems like hundreds of flahses
    > > > > per
    > > > > minute in the Sistine Chapel - The guards kept announcing that flash
    > > > > use
    > > > > and talking were not permitted (loud talklng?), but they were pretty
    > > > > much
    > > > > ignored by the visitors flashing and talking loudly to each other.
    > >
    > > > Iinteresting -- I was last in the Sistine myself about 5 years ago and
    > > > at that time there was a strict embargo on ANY picture taking because of
    > > > the Japanese contract -- perhaps it has expired. I am sort of shocked
    > > > that they allowed the flashes -- not good for art.
    > >
    > > I suspect that I am not alone in wishing that museums would become more
    > > heavy-handed in enforcing "no flash" rules.
    > >
    > > Perhaps something along the lines of: "if it flashes, your camera will
    > > be confiscated." The cameras could then be recovered by the owner at
    > > the museum exit, after payment of a small fee. (Or not, IMO, but I
    > > suspect that not returning them at all would create too many problems.)
    >
    > I was very annoyed by constant flashes during the Verona opera last
    > year. I'm sure the performers were even more annoyed. My only
    > satisfaction was knowing that all of those pictures would be of nothing
    > more than the heads in the next row, as they were too far from the stage
    > for the flash to be of any use.
    >
    > Barbara
    >
    >

a worldwide and mystifying phenomenon
 
Old May 5th 2003 | 5:46 am
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James Silverton
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"Jenn" wrote in message
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    > In article ,
    > Barbara Vaughan wrote:
    > > greg byshenk wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Jenn wrote:
    > > > > tom wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > > When I was there a few weeks ago, there were signs all over saying
no
    > > > > > flash photography. They didn't seem to care if your camera did
not
    > > > > > have a
    > > > > > flash. Nevertheless, there were what seems like hundreds of
flahses
    > > > > > per
    > > > > > minute in the Sistine Chapel - The guards kept announcing that
flash
    > > > > > use
    > > > > > and talking were not permitted (loud talklng?), but they were
pretty
    > > > > > much
    > > > > > ignored by the visitors flashing and talking loudly to each other.
    > > >
    > > > > Iinteresting -- I was last in the Sistine myself about 5 years ago
and
    > > > > at that time there was a strict embargo on ANY picture taking
because of
    > > > > the Japanese contract -- perhaps it has expired. I am sort of
shocked
    > > > > that they allowed the flashes -- not good for art.
    > > >
    > > > I suspect that I am not alone in wishing that museums would become
more
    > > > heavy-handed in enforcing "no flash" rules.
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps something along the lines of: "if it flashes, your camera
will
    > > > be confiscated." The cameras could then be recovered by the owner at
    > > > the museum exit, after payment of a small fee. (Or not, IMO, but I
    > > > suspect that not returning them at all would create too many
problems.)
    > >
    > > I was very annoyed by constant flashes during the Verona opera last
    > > year. I'm sure the performers were even more annoyed. My only
    > > satisfaction was knowing that all of those pictures would be of nothing
    > > more than the heads in the next row, as they were too far from the stage
    > > for the flash to be of any use.
    > >
    > > Barbara
    > >
    > >
    > a worldwide and mystifying phenomenon

Idiotic but not mystifying! Most of the people will be using automatically
switched flash. I once saw someone trying to light up the Black Canyon of
the Gunnison (a mile deep!).


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