I am emigrating to Spain and I have a guitar amplifier that I would dearly love to
take with me.

The amplifier is 175watts and the input is marked for 230v at 50hz. It does have some
digital circuits inside it if it makes any difference. Oh yes, it is a valve
amplifier.

Will I be able to use it in Spain which has a 220v at 50hz system?

If I have a problem, is there a cure?

TIA.

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Britain also has a 220v 50 Hz supply. It is the EU standard, although the permitted
tolerances allow for a gradual change-over from older systems, such as the 240v that
Britain used to work to. Generally, equipment marked for anything in the range 200v -
240v will usually work anywhere in the EU.

The only exception would be if it had a transformer tapping selector, now rare. That
would be a small, usually rotary, unit marked with different ranges (200-210,
220-230, 240-250 are typical). In that case, it sometimes used to be necessary to
change the selector for different parts of Europe.

Colin Bignell

Nightjar wrote:
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Now if you guys would also all adopt the same plugs...

But of course, that would be no fun, right . Losing your national identities, god
forbid .

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[usenetquote2]>> Britain also has a 220v 50 Hz supply. It is the EU standard, although the[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> permitted tolerances allow for a gradual change-over from older systems, such as[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> the 240v that Britain used to work to. Generally, equipment marked for anything in[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> the range 200v - 240v will usually work anywhere in the EU.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> The only exception would be if it had a transformer tapping selector, now rare.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> That would be a small, usually rotary, unit marked with different ranges (200-210,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> 220-230, 240-250 are typical). In that case, it sometimes used to be necessary to[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> change the selector for different parts of Europe.[/usenetquote2]
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No, Our plugs are safer than European or US ones...

Jim.

Jim Ley wrote:
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[usenetquote2]> >Now if you guys would also all adopt the same plugs...[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >But of course, that would be no fun, right . Losing your national identities,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >god forbid .[/usenetquote2]
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Watch out, they'll all say that . And anyway, this is orthogonal to the question of
adopting the same one (which should be simply an issue of deciding which is truly the
safer, presumably ...)

Mind you, you might get other folks (real nasty ones, right) stepping in and claiming
that 110V is safer. Which is true in some respects and false in others. Ah the
beautiful world of tradeoffs.

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[usenetquote2]>> >Now if you guys would also all adopt the same plugs...[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]>> >But of course, that would be no fun, right . Losing your national identities,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> >god forbid .[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]>> No, Our plugs are safer than European or US ones...[/usenetquote2]
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I suppose it's time once more to note that if standards weren't so important we
wouldn't have so many of them. Here in the US, we seem to have more than one standard
plug for 220v, so that replacing an air conditioner might require replacing the
recpeptacle as well.

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[usenetquote2]>>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>> >Now if you guys would also all adopt the same plugs...[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>> >But of course, that would be no fun, right . Losing your national identities,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>> >god forbid .[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>> No, Our plugs are safer than European or US ones...[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>Watch out, they'll all say that . And anyway, this is orthogonal to the question[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>of adopting the same one (which should be simply an issue of deciding which is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>truly the safer, presumably ...)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>Mind you, you might get other folks (real nasty ones, right) stepping in and[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>claiming that 110V is safer. Which is true in some respects and false in others. Ah[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>the beautiful world of tradeoffs.[/usenetquote2]
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Since the "standard" in this example is based on the amperage requirements, hopefully
one would also make necessary adjustments to the circuit protection and/or wiring,
and not simply replace the receptacle.

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Steve Kropla Kingwood, Texas USA To e-mail, replace "firstname" and "lastname" with
real names Help for World Travelers: http://kropla.com

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Do you not put plugs in Sockets over there then?

Jim.

If changing the plug was all that is involved... There is a whole different supply
philosophy between the two systems. Changing the plugs will almost certainly involve
wholesale changes to house wiring. And guess who will pay when we the law requires
the seller to vouch for what he's selling. Good little earner for the building trade
when they're next in recession.

M Stewart Milton Keynes, UK

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[usenetquote2]>> Here in the US, we seem to have more than one standard plug for 220v, so that[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> replacing an air conditioner might require replacing the recpeptacle as well.[/usenetquote2]
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No, we put lamps (light bulbs) in sockets and plugs into receptacles or outlets. We
don't always spell receptacle correctly either.

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schedule for a cooking school in Gascony Links and notes on food, wine,
travel and France in particular Our auto rental and leasing suggestions and
proposal in Europe.

[usenetquote2]>>>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>> >Now if you guys would also all adopt the same plugs...[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>> >But of course, that would be no fun, right . Losing your national identities,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>> >god forbid .[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>> No, Our plugs are safer than European or US ones...[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>Watch out, they'll all say that . And anyway, this is orthogonal to the question[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>of adopting the same one (which should be simply an issue of deciding which is[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>truly the safer, presumably ...)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>Mind you, you might get other folks (real nasty ones, right) stepping in and[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>claiming that 110V is safer. Which is true in some respects and false in others.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>>Ah the beautiful world of tradeoffs.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>I suppose it's time once more to note that if standards weren't so important we[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>wouldn't have so many of them. Here in the US, we seem to have more than one[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>standard plug for 220v, so that replacing an air conditioner might require[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>replacing the recpeptacle as well.[/usenetquote2]
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Good point.

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proposal in Europe.

Malcolm Stewart wrote:
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[usenetquote2]> > Nightjar wrote:[/usenetquote2]
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The question was about appliances. For which, as long as voltage (and for some
frequency) is the same, only care about plugs, and not about house wiring/protection
standards.

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[usenetquote2]> >> Here in the US, we seem to have more than one standard plug for 220v, so that[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> >> replacing an air conditioner[/usenetquote2]
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Of course in British English it would be plug and *socket*, which actually describes
the function more accurately . (

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[usenetquote2]>> >> replacing an air conditioner[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]>> >Do you not put plugs in Sockets over there then?[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> No, we put lamps (light bulbs) in sockets and plugs into receptacles[/usenetquote2]
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Socket is no better than "receptacle." Nor is it as descriptive as "power outlet."
Knowing exactly what is meant by any word, usually makes that word seem accurately
discriptive.

How do you distinguise between the socket for the light bulb and the receptacle
for the plug?

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travel and France in particular Our auto rental and leasing suggestions and
proposal in Europe.

Robert Buxbaum wrote:
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Trial and error?