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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 3:54 am
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Barbara Vaughan
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:
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    > Barbara Vaughan wrote:
    > >
    > >Marie Lewis wrote:
    > >>
    > >> In article ,
    > >> Tony writes
    > >> >Is it worth visiting the US with all of this bull**it? I'd rather go where
    > >> >tourists are welcomed instead of being treated like criminals
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> Here, here!
    > >
    > >Shouldn't that be "Hear, hear!"?
    > >
    > I suspect that Marie was suggesting that we visit the UK.

Surely not, what with Tony Blair's position on Iraq.

Barbara
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 4:10 am
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Marie Lewis
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In article , Barbara Vaughan
writes
    >> I suspect that Marie was suggesting that we visit the UK.
    >Surely not, what with Tony Blair's position on Iraq.
    >Barbara
I would love to welcome you to Europe. I recommend France.
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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 4:11 am
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Marie Lewis
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In article , Barbara Vaughan
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    >And Marie ought to know that, oughtn't she?
    >Maybe she meant to say, "there, there."
    >Barbara
Yes, "there, there" should calm these children down.
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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 4:42 am
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:52:07 +0100, Barbara Vaughan
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    >And Marie ought to know that, oughtn't she?
    >Maybe she meant to say, "there, there."

Gertrude Stein said there is no there, there.



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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 5:28 am
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:37:40 GMT, "devil" wrote:

    >>> > Here, here!
    >>> Shouldn't that be "Hear, hear!"?
    >>> Barbara
    >>

Hear, hear. Derived from "Hear him" shouted out at political meetings by
those supporting the speaker to drown out hecklers.

    >> I've always wondered about that - I tend to go with the Here, Here .
    >> But the Brits are notororiousley atrocious at speeling in there one
    >> langwage.
    >Barbara is right, I believe. In French, it would have been the old French
    >Oyez, oyez.

Never realised it was French. Certainly looks like an imperative form of
some verb or other.

    >Which the city guy (in charge of announcing notices, how was he called?)
    >would go shouting in the city before his announcment.

The Town Cryer, a few places still do it, York being one.

DG
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 5:49 am
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Hatunen wrote:
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    > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:52:07 +0100, Barbara Vaughan
    > wrote:
    >
    > >And Marie ought to know that, oughtn't she?
    > >
    > >Maybe she meant to say, "there, there."
    >
    > Gertrude Stein said there is no there, there.

No, that was Dorothy Thompson (I think). Anyway, it certainly wasn't
Gertrude Stein.

Barbara
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 5:57 am
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le Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:28:47 +0000, dans l'article , Derek a dit ...=20

    > Hear, hear. Derived from "Hear him" shouted out at political meetings b=
y
    > those supporting the speaker to drown out hecklers.=20

    >>> I've always wondered about that - I tend to go with the Here, Here .
    >>> But the Brits are notororiousley atrocious at speeling in there one
    >>> langwage.

    >>Barbara is right, I believe. In French, it would have been the old Fre=
nch
    >>Oyez, oyez.=20=20

    > Never realised it was French. Certainly looks like an imperative form o=
f
    > some verb or other.

At a guess, it comes from the old verb to hear, 'ou=EFr', the noun being
'ou=EFe'. 'He has good hearing' --> 'Il a l'ou=EFe tr=E8s fine'. Also, =
'Je suis
toute ou=EFe' --> 'I'm all ears'. The verb is hardly ever used, having b=
een
supplanted by 'entendre', but is still used in 'high' spoken and written
French. The noun lives on as one of the 'five senses' ('toucher', 'go=FB=
t',
'ou=EFe', 'vue', and 'odorat').=20=20

I'll check this when I get home, but I reckon that the above is correct.

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Desmond Coughlan=20
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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 6:10 am
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barney
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In article ,
[email protected] (Barbara Vaughan) wrote:


    > > Gertrude Stein said there is no there, there.
    >
    > No, that was Dorothy Thompson (I think). Anyway, it certainly wasn't
    > Gertrude Stein.

It was indeed Stein (referring to Oakland).
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 7:41 am
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Peter L
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"Marie Lewis" wrote in message
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    > In article ,
    > Tony writes
    > >Is it worth visiting the US with all of this bull**it? I'd rather go
where
    > >tourists are welcomed instead of being treated like criminals
    > >
    > Here, here!

Where? Where?
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 8:15 am
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Magda
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:48:39 -0000, in rec.travel.europe, "Miss L.Toe" arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :

...
... I've always wondered about that - I tend to go with the Here, Here .
... But the Brits are notororiousley atrocious at speeling in there one
... langwage.

And "langwage" is your personal idiotic spelling, I suppose ?

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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 8:52 am
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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
    > 'ouïe'. 'He has good hearing' --> 'Il a l'ouïe très fine'. Also, 'Je suis
    > toute ouïe' --> 'I'm all ears'.

No, that expression hasn't been invented yet... we have to wait until 2063
when we make fiurst contact with the Vulcans who can truly say things wbout
their ears :-)
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 9:31 am
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Frank O'Donnell
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In article , Barbara Vaughan wrote:
    >
    >> >
    >> >Maybe she meant to say, "there, there."
    >>
    >> Gertrude Stein said there is no there, there.
    >
    > No, that was Dorothy Thompson (I think). Anyway, it certainly wasn't
    > Gertrude Stein.

Of course it was Gertrude. Talking about her home town of Oakland, CA.


Rusty
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Old Feb 21st 2003 | 11:30 am
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"Marie Lewis" skrev i meddelandet
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    > In article , Barbara Vaughan
    > writes
    > >> I suspect that Marie was suggesting that we visit the UK.
    > >
    > >Surely not, what with Tony Blair's position on Iraq.
    > >
    > >Barbara
    > I would love to welcome you to Europe. I recommend France.
    > --
    > Marie Lewis
Seem to be a popular destination. One of today's visitor was a certain
Mr.Mugabe.
And Mr.Chirac couldn't resist the opportunity to shake hands with a fellow
emperor.
When peace is in such hands.... ??
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 3:35 pm
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It was Ms. Stein in reference to her home in Oakland, CA and it was used in
her book "Everybody's Biography". It's scary disputing the word of a
Princetonian but I thought you would like to know.
"Barbara Vaughan" wrote in message
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    > Hatunen wrote:
    > >
    > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:52:07 +0100, Barbara Vaughan
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > >And Marie ought to know that, oughtn't she?
    > > >
    > > >Maybe she meant to say, "there, there."
    > >
    > > Gertrude Stein said there is no there, there.
    > No, that was Dorothy Thompson (I think). Anyway, it certainly wasn't
    > Gertrude Stein.
    > Barbara
 
Old Feb 21st 2003 | 6:01 pm
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JF Mezei wrote:
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    > Jo Stoller wrote:
    > > All passengers flying to the US from Britain will have personal
    > > information, including credit card details, handed over to the
    > > American authorities before they set foot on US soil, under a deal
    > > agreed yesterday.
    >
    > That is appaling. I suspect Canada and others will be forced to follow suit.
    >
    > I guess you'll start to see more people paying cash unless the airlines move
    > the payment information to some other record not transmitted to the USA.
    >
    > One thing for sure, I would want to have some "interesting" test added to the
    > PNR if you know they will be looking it it. "Dear CIA agent, smile if you had
    > sex this morning".

More and more, this "security" hooha begins to resemble Germany in the
mid 1930's. WHY are more Americans not protesting? (Before they
discover it's too late?)
 


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