UK- train fares going up above inflation.
Dec 9th 2005, 3:45 am
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Re: UK- train fares going up above inflation.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>
> >In more ways than one. If it is more than 30 minutes late, you get 25%
> >of the ticket cost (one way) back, if it is more than 2 hours late, you
> >get the ticket refunded. On Virgin trains that is, who run that route.
>
> that's not bad, pity you cant get negative speeding fines by
> going really slowly.
It's not bad, but if I charged them my hourly rate instead of getting
the refund, I'd generally be further ahead! :(
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> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>
> >In more ways than one. If it is more than 30 minutes late, you get 25%
> >of the ticket cost (one way) back, if it is more than 2 hours late, you
> >get the ticket refunded. On Virgin trains that is, who run that route.
>
> that's not bad, pity you cant get negative speeding fines by
> going really slowly.
It's not bad, but if I charged them my hourly rate instead of getting
the refund, I'd generally be further ahead! :(
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Dec 11th 2005, 8:40 pm
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Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
>> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
>> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
>> flying! :-S
>Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
>wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
>pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
>perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
>due to engineering.
At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
after the event finished. For Bexley to a similar place on the
edge of Manchester, I would be near Birmingham by car by the time
the train user was in Central London nearing the main line
station, unless rush hour when train should be quicker. The flyer
would be heading for Heathrow to check in x time before the
flight.
I expect you missed JC last night racing a light plane in a
Bugatti to get a truffle from Turin to Gary Rhodes Tower 42
first. The Bugatti won, but it was pretty dubious contest,
although it did emphasise the amount of lead time there is in
flying, even private. (The Bugatti is beautiful but pointless, I
suppose you could take it to track days where a [limited] top
speed of 250 mph might be interesting).
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>> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
>> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
>> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
>> flying! :-S
>Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
>wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
>pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
>perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
>due to engineering.
At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
after the event finished. For Bexley to a similar place on the
edge of Manchester, I would be near Birmingham by car by the time
the train user was in Central London nearing the main line
station, unless rush hour when train should be quicker. The flyer
would be heading for Heathrow to check in x time before the
flight.
I expect you missed JC last night racing a light plane in a
Bugatti to get a truffle from Turin to Gary Rhodes Tower 42
first. The Bugatti won, but it was pretty dubious contest,
although it did emphasise the amount of lead time there is in
flying, even private. (The Bugatti is beautiful but pointless, I
suppose you could take it to track days where a [limited] top
speed of 250 mph might be interesting).
--
Mike Reid
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Dec 11th 2005, 9:07 pm
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Re: UK- train fares going up above inflation.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>
> >> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
> >> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
> >> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
> >> flying! :-S
> >
> >Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
> >wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
> >pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
> >perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
> >due to engineering.
>
> At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> after the event finished. For Bexley to a similar place on the
> edge of Manchester, I would be near Birmingham by car by the time
> the train user was in Central London nearing the main line
> station, unless rush hour when train should be quicker.
Can you get from Balham to Birmingham in 40 minutes? That was around the
'door to door' time for me to get to Euston.
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> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>
> >> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
> >> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
> >> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
> >> flying! :-S
> >
> >Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
> >wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
> >pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
> >perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
> >due to engineering.
>
> At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> after the event finished. For Bexley to a similar place on the
> edge of Manchester, I would be near Birmingham by car by the time
> the train user was in Central London nearing the main line
> station, unless rush hour when train should be quicker.
Can you get from Balham to Birmingham in 40 minutes? That was around the
'door to door' time for me to get to Euston.
--
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Dec 11th 2005, 9:25 pm
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
>besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>>> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
>>> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
>>> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
>>> flying! :-S
>>Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
>>wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
>>pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
>>perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
>>due to engineering.
>At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>after the event finished.
A few Easters ago, I took my kids to Malton Station so that they could
get to York by train rather than sit in a traffic jam for two hours on
the A64. The train from Scarborough-York was replaced by a bus, which
arrived an hour late "got caught in a traffic jam on the A64", they
then spent the best part of 90 minutes in a traffic jam on the A64.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
>besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>>> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
>>> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
>>> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
>>> flying! :-S
>>Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
>>wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
>>pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
>>perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
>>due to engineering.
>At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>after the event finished.
A few Easters ago, I took my kids to Malton Station so that they could
get to York by train rather than sit in a traffic jam for two hours on
the A64. The train from Scarborough-York was replaced by a bus, which
arrived an hour late "got caught in a traffic jam on the A64", they
then spent the best part of 90 minutes in a traffic jam on the A64.
--
Martin
Dec 11th 2005, 9:27 pm
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid
> <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> >after the event finished.
>
> A few Easters ago, I took my kids to Malton Station so that they could
> get to York by train rather than sit in a traffic jam for two hours on
> the A64. The train from Scarborough-York was replaced by a bus, which
> arrived an hour late "got caught in a traffic jam on the A64", they
> then spent the best part of 90 minutes in a traffic jam on the A64.
The trams are frequently delayed in the centre of Manchester by bus jams
on a particular small stretch of road. Why on earth the people that run
the city can't do something about it is beyond me. Most of them probably
drive to work, so don't care...
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> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid
> <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> >after the event finished.
>
> A few Easters ago, I took my kids to Malton Station so that they could
> get to York by train rather than sit in a traffic jam for two hours on
> the A64. The train from Scarborough-York was replaced by a bus, which
> arrived an hour late "got caught in a traffic jam on the A64", they
> then spent the best part of 90 minutes in a traffic jam on the A64.
The trams are frequently delayed in the centre of Manchester by bus jams
on a particular small stretch of road. Why on earth the people that run
the city can't do something about it is beyond me. Most of them probably
drive to work, so don't care...
--
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Dec 11th 2005, 9:39 pm
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>after the event finished.
Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
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Tim C.
wrote:
>At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>after the event finished.
Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
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Dec 11th 2005, 9:41 pm
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Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> >after the event finished.
>
> Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
> weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
weekends compared to many countries.
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> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> >after the event finished.
>
> Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
> weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
weekends compared to many countries.
--
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Dec 11th 2005, 9:43 pm
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) writes:
> Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> > >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> > >after the event finished.
> >
> > Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
> > weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
>
> Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
> that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
> weekends compared to many countries.
I got put on a coach for the first part of the train trip from
Groningen to Schipol last Monday, which isn't even a weekend.
Des
> Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
> > >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
> > >after the event finished.
> >
> > Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
> > weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
>
> Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
> that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
> weekends compared to many countries.
I got put on a coach for the first part of the train trip from
Groningen to Schipol last Monday, which isn't even a weekend.
Des
Dec 11th 2005, 10:20 pm
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On 12 Dec 2005 10:43:00 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) writes:
>> Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>> > >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>> > >after the event finished.
>> >
>> > Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
>> > weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
>>
>> Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
>> that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
>> weekends compared to many countries.
>I got put on a coach for the first part of the train trip from
>Groningen to Schipol last Monday, which isn't even a weekend.
Only British tourists ever claimed NS was perfect. :-)
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wrote:
>[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) writes:
>> Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>> > >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>> > >after the event finished.
>> >
>> > Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
>> > weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
>>
>> Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
>> that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
>> weekends compared to many countries.
>I got put on a coach for the first part of the train trip from
>Groningen to Schipol last Monday, which isn't even a weekend.
Only British tourists ever claimed NS was perfect. :-)
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Dec 11th 2005, 10:25 pm
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:07:16 +0000, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
>> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>>
>> >> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
>> >> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
>> >> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
>> >> flying! :-S
>> >
>> >Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
>> >wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
>> >pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
>> >perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
>> >due to engineering.
>>
>> At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>> a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>> after the event finished. For Bexley to a similar place on the
>> edge of Manchester, I would be near Birmingham by car by the time
>> the train user was in Central London nearing the main line
>> station, unless rush hour when train should be quicker.
>Can you get from Balham to Birmingham in 40 minutes? That was around the
>'door to door' time for me to get to Euston.
Mike is a Top Gear emulator :-)
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Martin
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
>> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>>
>> >> Yes, but it has to be fair, I walk out of house with car keys as
>> >> you head for station to get to centre and same other end. I admit
>> >> it could be tight, especially as I thought I was betting against
>> >> flying! :-S
>> >
>> >Remember that most of my journeys to London are to the centre. If you
>> >wanted to compare driving from my house to the centre of London, I'm
>> >pretty certain that the train and tram would beat the car, except
>> >perhaps at weekends, where there are longer journey times at the momen
>> >due to engineering.
>>
>> At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>> a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>> after the event finished. For Bexley to a similar place on the
>> edge of Manchester, I would be near Birmingham by car by the time
>> the train user was in Central London nearing the main line
>> station, unless rush hour when train should be quicker.
>Can you get from Balham to Birmingham in 40 minutes? That was around the
>'door to door' time for me to get to Euston.
Mike is a Top Gear emulator :-)
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Martin
Dec 11th 2005, 10:26 pm
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:22 +0000, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
>Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>> >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>> >after the event finished.
>>
>> Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
>> weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
>Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
>that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
>weekends compared to many countries.
It's like that everywhere I have been.
--
Martin
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
>Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:40:36 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >At the moment! Every time I try to use a train at the weekend its
>> >a bus replacement service, which when I took it got me there
>> >after the event finished.
>>
>> Oh it's the same everywhere - just travel on Austrian trains at the
>> weekends, especially off the main Innsbruck - Salzburg - Vienna track.
>Is it like that everywhere in Europe though? The impression I got was
>that the UK is particularly bad for disruptive engineering work at
>weekends compared to many countries.
It's like that everywhere I have been.
--
Martin
Dec 11th 2005, 10:31 pm
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Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>The trams are frequently delayed in the centre of Manchester by bus jams
>on a particular small stretch of road. Why on earth the people that run
>the city can't do something about it is beyond me. Most of them probably
>drive to work, so don't care...
Oh come on, planners are usually pro public transport nowadays,
here Ken travels on the ridiculous bendy buses that foul up the
traffic.
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besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>The trams are frequently delayed in the centre of Manchester by bus jams
>on a particular small stretch of road. Why on earth the people that run
>the city can't do something about it is beyond me. Most of them probably
>drive to work, so don't care...
Oh come on, planners are usually pro public transport nowadays,
here Ken travels on the ridiculous bendy buses that foul up the
traffic.
--
Mike Reid
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Dec 11th 2005, 10:31 pm
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Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>Can you get from Balham to Birmingham in 40 minutes? That was around the
>'door to door' time for me to get to Euston.
no, and I cant get from Bexley to Euston in that time, either.
Its a 20 minute walk to the station for a start, you need to
leave a two train margin for cancellations, so thats half an
hour, the journey to Charing X is 30 minutes, then another 30 to
Euston. If I had to be at Euston at 10, I would set out no later
than 8 to be sure of making the connection.
From where I am, i'm on a motorway style road in about 5 minutes
and its all dual carriageway except through Epping forest (a
couple of miles). Its about 120 miles to Brum, so even if I stuck
to the legal limit I'd make it, actual driving I would be beyond
Brum.
Trains work for those living close to terminus with a similar
destination. I never visit other UK city centres, If I did I
might well go by train. As you know my typical journey is more
likely to be Bexley Wasdale, I have done the Lakes in 4 1/2
hours, but I tend to drive over the passes which probably adds an
hour at least, but its an enjoyable hour. My next few significant
UK car journeys will be Bexley: Wasdale, Unst via Aberdeen,
Lizard and Helford, some of those trips I might break
spontaneously for photo opportunities.
We are probably at opposite ends of travel patterns!
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besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>Can you get from Balham to Birmingham in 40 minutes? That was around the
>'door to door' time for me to get to Euston.
no, and I cant get from Bexley to Euston in that time, either.
Its a 20 minute walk to the station for a start, you need to
leave a two train margin for cancellations, so thats half an
hour, the journey to Charing X is 30 minutes, then another 30 to
Euston. If I had to be at Euston at 10, I would set out no later
than 8 to be sure of making the connection.
From where I am, i'm on a motorway style road in about 5 minutes
and its all dual carriageway except through Epping forest (a
couple of miles). Its about 120 miles to Brum, so even if I stuck
to the legal limit I'd make it, actual driving I would be beyond
Brum.
Trains work for those living close to terminus with a similar
destination. I never visit other UK city centres, If I did I
might well go by train. As you know my typical journey is more
likely to be Bexley Wasdale, I have done the Lakes in 4 1/2
hours, but I tend to drive over the passes which probably adds an
hour at least, but its an enjoyable hour. My next few significant
UK car journeys will be Bexley: Wasdale, Unst via Aberdeen,
Lizard and Helford, some of those trips I might break
spontaneously for photo opportunities.
We are probably at opposite ends of travel patterns!
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Dec 11th 2005, 10:38 pm
#29
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Re: UK- train fares going up above inflation.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>
> >The trams are frequently delayed in the centre of Manchester by bus jams
> >on a particular small stretch of road. Why on earth the people that run
> >the city can't do something about it is beyond me. Most of them probably
> >drive to work, so don't care...
>
> Oh come on, planners are usually pro public transport nowadays,
> here Ken travels on the ridiculous bendy buses that foul up the
> traffic.
And London has a lot better local transport than it used to because the
Mayor made it a priority. Manchester's council (and the GMPTE) likes
bragging about their trams (people like trams, after all) but they do
little to help those kinds of problems. I've talked with Metrolink
people about the Mosley Street problem, and they insist that they
constantly bring it up, but that the executive simply doesn't care.
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> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>
> >The trams are frequently delayed in the centre of Manchester by bus jams
> >on a particular small stretch of road. Why on earth the people that run
> >the city can't do something about it is beyond me. Most of them probably
> >drive to work, so don't care...
>
> Oh come on, planners are usually pro public transport nowadays,
> here Ken travels on the ridiculous bendy buses that foul up the
> traffic.
And London has a lot better local transport than it used to because the
Mayor made it a priority. Manchester's council (and the GMPTE) likes
bragging about their trams (people like trams, after all) but they do
little to help those kinds of problems. I've talked with Metrolink
people about the Mosley Street problem, and they insist that they
constantly bring it up, but that the executive simply doesn't care.
--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
Dec 11th 2005, 10:55 pm
#30
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Re: UK- train fares going up above inflation.
Following up to Martin
>Mike is a Top Gear emulator :-)
David didnt pick up on the Bugatti, I obviously didnt give enough
interesting facts....
Looks superb, nobody can argue about that really.
Immensely fast. it could let the previous fastest car get to 100,
then take off and beat it to 250.
More radiators than most houses.
Flat out it empties its fuel tank in 12 minutes (100 ukp worth)
although where could you drive at 250 for twelve minutes! Where
could you drive at 250 for one minute?
The engine (which is behind the driver, open to the air, produces
1000 bhp, yes one thousand.
There must be something there that has impressed David? :-S
Er, and its utterly pointless apart from its looks and its noise.
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>Mike is a Top Gear emulator :-)
David didnt pick up on the Bugatti, I obviously didnt give enough
interesting facts....
Looks superb, nobody can argue about that really.
Immensely fast. it could let the previous fastest car get to 100,
then take off and beat it to 250.
More radiators than most houses.
Flat out it empties its fuel tank in 12 minutes (100 ukp worth)
although where could you drive at 250 for twelve minutes! Where
could you drive at 250 for one minute?
The engine (which is behind the driver, open to the air, produces
1000 bhp, yes one thousand.
There must be something there that has impressed David? :-S
Er, and its utterly pointless apart from its looks and its noise.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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