UK drivers among safest, most modest in Europe
Jun 7th 2005, 10:10 am
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Re: UK drivers among safest, most modest in Europe
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:58:00 +0100, The Reids
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>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>>or perhaps Mike's definition of 'inappropriate speed' is only
>>>>applicable after you have crashed.
>>>that's just silly.
>>It is rather easy to sit on the sidelines and say that speeding is ok
>>if done safely, but it doesn't work to well in practice for a whole
>>variety of reasons.
>I have been putting forward a whole load of arguments about
>reaction times etc etc, all I get back is rules are rules.
Because that's the only practical way it can be implemented. If
there's a better way then I don't know it.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>>>or perhaps Mike's definition of 'inappropriate speed' is only
>>>>applicable after you have crashed.
>>>that's just silly.
>>It is rather easy to sit on the sidelines and say that speeding is ok
>>if done safely, but it doesn't work to well in practice for a whole
>>variety of reasons.
>I have been putting forward a whole load of arguments about
>reaction times etc etc, all I get back is rules are rules.
Because that's the only practical way it can be implemented. If
there's a better way then I don't know it.
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Jun 8th 2005, 8:53 am
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>>I have been putting forward a whole load of arguments about
>>reaction times etc etc, all I get back is rules are rules.
>Because that's the only practical way it can be implemented. If
>there's a better way then I don't know it.
Who is saying otherwise? I was primarily talking about the role
of reaction times in driving.
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>>I have been putting forward a whole load of arguments about
>>reaction times etc etc, all I get back is rules are rules.
>Because that's the only practical way it can be implemented. If
>there's a better way then I don't know it.
Who is saying otherwise? I was primarily talking about the role
of reaction times in driving.
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Jun 10th 2005, 2:29 pm
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> nobody trained him thoroughly that you must drive to be able to
> >> stop in the space you can see to be clear of vehicles and people.
> >> Its elementary and fundamental but gets little focused attention
> >> as far as I can see. Anyone taken a driving test recently, is
> >> there any strong emphasis on this nowadays?
> >now you're sounding like a _troll_
> why exactly? I always think you sound like a troll.
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Because you are pissing against the wind of common sense.
To drive fast is to have less reaction time is to increase the risk of
an accident.
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> nobody trained him thoroughly that you must drive to be able to
> >> stop in the space you can see to be clear of vehicles and people.
> >> Its elementary and fundamental but gets little focused attention
> >> as far as I can see. Anyone taken a driving test recently, is
> >> there any strong emphasis on this nowadays?
> >now you're sounding like a _troll_
> why exactly? I always think you sound like a troll.
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Because you are pissing against the wind of common sense.
To drive fast is to have less reaction time is to increase the risk of
an accident.
Jun 10th 2005, 3:11 pm
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Following up to [email protected]
>> >now you're sounding like a _troll_
>> why exactly? I always think you sound like a troll.
>Because you are pissing against the wind of common sense.
Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
>To drive fast is to have less reaction time is to increase the risk of
>an accident.
So I take it you drive everywhere at 20? If you don't, I want to
know why "you piss against the wind of common sense" by taking
"unnecessary risks"? Or do you have the charmingly naive idea
that risk suddenly starts at 71 mph?
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>> >now you're sounding like a _troll_
>> why exactly? I always think you sound like a troll.
>Because you are pissing against the wind of common sense.
Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
>To drive fast is to have less reaction time is to increase the risk of
>an accident.
So I take it you drive everywhere at 20? If you don't, I want to
know why "you piss against the wind of common sense" by taking
"unnecessary risks"? Or do you have the charmingly naive idea
that risk suddenly starts at 71 mph?
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Jun 10th 2005, 6:35 pm
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> >now you're sounding like a _troll_
> >>
> >> why exactly? I always think you sound like a troll.
> >Because you are pissing against the wind of common sense.
> Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
Mixi would be proud of you.
> >To drive fast is to have less reaction time is to increase the risk of
> >an accident.
> So I take it you drive everywhere at 20? If you don't, I want to
> know why "you piss against the wind of common sense" by taking
> "unnecessary risks"? Or do you have the charmingly naive idea
> that risk suddenly starts at 71 mph?
> --
in Belgium we now have many 30 kph (20 mph) zones, outside schools and
in shopping streets.
speed limits are there for a reason, why is that so difficult to
understand ?
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> >now you're sounding like a _troll_
> >>
> >> why exactly? I always think you sound like a troll.
> >Because you are pissing against the wind of common sense.
> Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
Mixi would be proud of you.
> >To drive fast is to have less reaction time is to increase the risk of
> >an accident.
> So I take it you drive everywhere at 20? If you don't, I want to
> know why "you piss against the wind of common sense" by taking
> "unnecessary risks"? Or do you have the charmingly naive idea
> that risk suddenly starts at 71 mph?
> --
in Belgium we now have many 30 kph (20 mph) zones, outside schools and
in shopping streets.
speed limits are there for a reason, why is that so difficult to
understand ?
Jun 13th 2005, 8:48 am
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Following up to [email protected]
>> Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
>Mixi would be proud of you.
that's no real answer then..
>> So I take it you drive everywhere at 20?
>in Belgium we now have many 30 kph (20 mph) zones, outside schools and
>in shopping streets.
>speed limits are there for a reason, why is that so difficult to
>understand ?
LOL Its very easy to understand. Why did you think you should
ask? Were you reading the thread?
Its also very easy to understand why you did not answer my
question. I suggest you just read my previous posts and stop
wasting my time with irrelevancies.
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>> Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
>Mixi would be proud of you.
that's no real answer then..
>> So I take it you drive everywhere at 20?
>in Belgium we now have many 30 kph (20 mph) zones, outside schools and
>in shopping streets.
>speed limits are there for a reason, why is that so difficult to
>understand ?
LOL Its very easy to understand. Why did you think you should
ask? Were you reading the thread?
Its also very easy to understand why you did not answer my
question. I suggest you just read my previous posts and stop
wasting my time with irrelevancies.
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Jun 13th 2005, 6:07 pm
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
> >>
> >
> >Mixi would be proud of you.
> that's no real answer then..
> >> So I take it you drive everywhere at 20?
> >in Belgium we now have many 30 kph (20 mph) zones, outside schools and
> >in shopping streets.
> >speed limits are there for a reason, why is that so difficult to
> >understand ?
> LOL Its very easy to understand. Why did you think you should
> ask? Were you reading the thread?
> Its also very easy to understand why you did not answer my
> question. I suggest you just read my previous posts and stop
> wasting my time with irrelevancies.
> --
> Mike Reid
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Your quotes lack consistency in the case of 'London's great food'.
Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
to use one of your own positive contributions !!
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> Even if I was, that has nothing whatsoever to do with trolling.
> >>
> >
> >Mixi would be proud of you.
> that's no real answer then..
> >> So I take it you drive everywhere at 20?
> >in Belgium we now have many 30 kph (20 mph) zones, outside schools and
> >in shopping streets.
> >speed limits are there for a reason, why is that so difficult to
> >understand ?
> LOL Its very easy to understand. Why did you think you should
> ask? Were you reading the thread?
> Its also very easy to understand why you did not answer my
> question. I suggest you just read my previous posts and stop
> wasting my time with irrelevancies.
> --
> Mike Reid
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Your quotes lack consistency in the case of 'London's great food'.
Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
to use one of your own positive contributions !!
Jun 14th 2005, 11:13 am
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Following up to [email protected]
>Your quotes lack consistency in the case of 'London's great food'.
If you cant understand "wake up call in the 60s" and "improved in
the last 20 years" are not inconsistent.....
>Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
answer my question.
>My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
>to use one of your own positive contributions !!
troll is more apt for you.
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>Your quotes lack consistency in the case of 'London's great food'.
If you cant understand "wake up call in the 60s" and "improved in
the last 20 years" are not inconsistent.....
>Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
answer my question.
>My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
>to use one of your own positive contributions !!
troll is more apt for you.
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Jun 14th 2005, 5:52 pm
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to [email protected]
> >Your quotes lack consistency in the case of 'London's great food'.
> If you cant understand "wake up call in the 60s" and "improved in
> the last 20 years" are not inconsistent.....
that must be the politician in you.....
> >Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
> answer my question.
The majority of collisions are not accidents - they are a consequence
of reducing your
safety margins.
Your 'safety margin' is a combination of the speed at which you
drive and the distance between you and other vehicles. Obviously the
faster you drive, the less time you have to react if something
unexpected happens.
Driving too fast for the conditions is a major contributory factor in
road casualties. Every year around 3,500 people are killed and 40,000
seriously injured on our roads. Slowing down by just a few miles per
hour can mean the difference between life and death.
A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
driving in perfect
conditions - it is not a target. You should slow down even further if
you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
is poor or if the road is wet.
> >My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
> >to use one of your own positive contributions !!
>
> troll is more apt for you.
welcome to the club !
> Following up to [email protected]
> >Your quotes lack consistency in the case of 'London's great food'.
> If you cant understand "wake up call in the 60s" and "improved in
> the last 20 years" are not inconsistent.....
that must be the politician in you.....
> >Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
> answer my question.
The majority of collisions are not accidents - they are a consequence
of reducing your
safety margins.
Your 'safety margin' is a combination of the speed at which you
drive and the distance between you and other vehicles. Obviously the
faster you drive, the less time you have to react if something
unexpected happens.
Driving too fast for the conditions is a major contributory factor in
road casualties. Every year around 3,500 people are killed and 40,000
seriously injured on our roads. Slowing down by just a few miles per
hour can mean the difference between life and death.
A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
driving in perfect
conditions - it is not a target. You should slow down even further if
you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
is poor or if the road is wet.
> >My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
> >to use one of your own positive contributions !!
>
> troll is more apt for you.
welcome to the club !
Jun 14th 2005, 6:25 pm
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>A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>driving in perfect
>conditions - it is not a target.
Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
necessarily a safety one.
You should slow down even further if
>you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
>is poor or if the road is wet.
This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
requires it.
>driving in perfect
>conditions - it is not a target.
Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
necessarily a safety one.
You should slow down even further if
>you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
>is poor or if the road is wet.
This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
requires it.
Jun 14th 2005, 6:32 pm
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Brian wrote:
> >A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
> >driving in perfect
> >conditions - it is not a target.
> Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
> necessarily a safety one.
how did it become legally compliant ?
> You should slow down even further if
> >you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
> >is poor or if the road is wet.
> This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
> requires it.
> >
which situations do not require it ?
> >A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
> >driving in perfect
> >conditions - it is not a target.
> Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
> necessarily a safety one.
how did it become legally compliant ?
> You should slow down even further if
> >you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
> >is poor or if the road is wet.
> This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
> requires it.
> >
which situations do not require it ?
Jun 14th 2005, 7:05 pm
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On 14 Jun 2005 11:32:48 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Brian wrote:
>> >A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>> >driving in perfect
>> >conditions - it is not a target.
>> Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
>> necessarily a safety one.
> how did it become legally compliant ?
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 is the current legislation for
national speed limits the Highway Code says.
>> You should slow down even further if
>> >you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
>> >is poor or if the road is wet.
>> This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
>> requires it.
>> >
> which situations do not require it ?
If there is no additional hazard posed eg late on light sunny
summer evenings or even the earIy hours of moonlit nights I may drive
to the posted limit, late afternoon in school time I probably wouldn't
- but I would make a conscious assessment at the time.
>Brian wrote:
>> >A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>> >driving in perfect
>> >conditions - it is not a target.
>> Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
>> necessarily a safety one.
> how did it become legally compliant ?
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 is the current legislation for
national speed limits the Highway Code says.
>> You should slow down even further if
>> >you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
>> >is poor or if the road is wet.
>> This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
>> requires it.
>> >
> which situations do not require it ?
If there is no additional hazard posed eg late on light sunny
summer evenings or even the earIy hours of moonlit nights I may drive
to the posted limit, late afternoon in school time I probably wouldn't
- but I would make a conscious assessment at the time.
Jun 15th 2005, 7:04 am
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Following up to [email protected]
>> If you cant understand "wake up call in the 60s" and "improved in
>> the last 20 years" are not inconsistent.....
>that must be the politician in you.....
no, its the common sense in me. You see, there's a lag between
cause and effect. I'll give an example, a tiresome poster keeps
posting obvious things that don't address the issue, at first
people go along with it, after a time they loose interest and
ignore or killfile.
>> >Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
>> answer my question.
>The majority of collisions are not accidents - they are a consequence
>of reducing your
>safety margins.
>Your 'safety margin' is a combination of the speed at which you
>drive and the distance between you and other vehicles. Obviously the
>faster you drive, the less time you have to react if something
>unexpected happens.
If you are finding the unexpected keeps happening when you are
driving I suggest getting some further training.
>Driving too fast for the conditions is a major contributory factor in
>road casualties.
"driving too fast for the conditions" so do you agree with me or
disagree with me about "appropriate speed"?
>Every year around 3,500 people are killed and 40,000
>seriously injured on our roads. Slowing down by just a few miles per
>hour can mean the difference between life and death.
>A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>driving in perfect conditions - it is not a target.
>You should slow down even further if
>you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
>is poor or if the road is wet.
nothing you say above is other than blindingly obvious, and you
still didn't answer my question.
>> >My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
>> >to use one of your own positive contributions !!
>>
>> troll is more apt for you.
>welcome to the club !
glad to see you admit to being a troll.
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>> If you cant understand "wake up call in the 60s" and "improved in
>> the last 20 years" are not inconsistent.....
>that must be the politician in you.....
no, its the common sense in me. You see, there's a lag between
cause and effect. I'll give an example, a tiresome poster keeps
posting obvious things that don't address the issue, at first
people go along with it, after a time they loose interest and
ignore or killfile.
>> >Your common sense is lacking in the case of 'lets drive fast'.
>> answer my question.
>The majority of collisions are not accidents - they are a consequence
>of reducing your
>safety margins.
>Your 'safety margin' is a combination of the speed at which you
>drive and the distance between you and other vehicles. Obviously the
>faster you drive, the less time you have to react if something
>unexpected happens.
If you are finding the unexpected keeps happening when you are
driving I suggest getting some further training.
>Driving too fast for the conditions is a major contributory factor in
>road casualties.
"driving too fast for the conditions" so do you agree with me or
disagree with me about "appropriate speed"?
>Every year around 3,500 people are killed and 40,000
>seriously injured on our roads. Slowing down by just a few miles per
>hour can mean the difference between life and death.
>A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>driving in perfect conditions - it is not a target.
>You should slow down even further if
>you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
>is poor or if the road is wet.
nothing you say above is other than blindingly obvious, and you
still didn't answer my question.
>> >My contributions are adjusted accordingly, "Pillock",
>> >to use one of your own positive contributions !!
>>
>> troll is more apt for you.
>welcome to the club !
glad to see you admit to being a troll.
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Following up to Brian
>>A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>>driving in perfect
>>conditions - it is not a target.
>Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
>necessarily a safety one.
Its a side issue but out of interest speed limits are not even
always theoretically set for safety, the A2 near me was reduced
from 70 to 50 for noise reduction purposes.
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>>A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
>>driving in perfect
>>conditions - it is not a target.
>Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
>necessarily a safety one.
Its a side issue but out of interest speed limits are not even
always theoretically set for safety, the A2 near me was reduced
from 70 to 50 for noise reduction purposes.
--
Mike Reid
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Jun 15th 2005, 8:16 am
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Brian wrote:
> On 14 Jun 2005 11:32:48 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >Brian wrote:
> >> >A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
> >> >driving in perfect
> >> >conditions - it is not a target.
> >>
> >> Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
> >> necessarily a safety one.
> >>
> > how did it become legally compliant ?
> Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 is the current legislation for
> national speed limits the Highway Code says.
> >
and what was the idea behind the legislation ?
> >> You should slow down even further if
> >> >you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
> >> >is poor or if the road is wet.
> >>
> >> This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
> >> requires it.
> >> >
> >
> > which situations do not require it ?
> If there is no additional hazard posed eg late on light sunny
> summer evenings or even the earIy hours of moonlit nights I may drive
> to the posted limit, late afternoon in school time I probably wouldn't
> - but I would make a conscious assessment at the time.
what about the hazards that you may have missed ?
you are only human after all.
> On 14 Jun 2005 11:32:48 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >Brian wrote:
> >> >A speed limit is the absolute maximum speed at which you should be
> >> >driving in perfect
> >> >conditions - it is not a target.
> >>
> >> Only true because the speed limit is a legal compliance issue, not
> >> necessarily a safety one.
> >>
> > how did it become legally compliant ?
> Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 is the current legislation for
> national speed limits the Highway Code says.
> >
and what was the idea behind the legislation ?
> >> You should slow down even further if
> >> >you are in a residential area, near a school or hospital, if visibility
> >> >is poor or if the road is wet.
> >>
> >> This is not true in all cases, only if and when the situation
> >> requires it.
> >> >
> >
> > which situations do not require it ?
> If there is no additional hazard posed eg late on light sunny
> summer evenings or even the earIy hours of moonlit nights I may drive
> to the posted limit, late afternoon in school time I probably wouldn't
> - but I would make a conscious assessment at the time.
what about the hazards that you may have missed ?
you are only human after all.