On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:25 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >[]
    >> Britain
    >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...5454_2,00.html
    >> August 22, 2005
    >>
    >> 'Piano Man' breaks silence and heads home
    >> By Simon Freeman, Times Online
    >[]
    >> When he was first discovered, the man refused to speak but when
    >> presented with a pen and paper, sketched a detailed picture of a grand
    >> piano.
    >How detailed? 88 keys?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...1_piano203.jpg


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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:17:07 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:07:52 +0100, [email protected]
    >> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    >> offy) wrote:
    >>
    >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >[]
    >> >> we used to watch Rab C Nesbitt with the sub-titles on
    >> >
    >> >I used to prefer it with the sound down!
    >>
    >> with or without a picture?
    >Is that a rhetorical question? :)

Is that a rhetorical question? :O)
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Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:25 +0100, [email protected]
    > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    > offy) wrote:
    >
    > >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >[]
    > >> Britain
    > >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...5454_2,00.html
    > >> August 22, 2005
    > >>
    > >> 'Piano Man' breaks silence and heads home
    > >> By Simon Freeman, Times Online
    > >[]
    > >> When he was first discovered, the man refused to speak but when
    > >> presented with a pen and paper, sketched a detailed picture of a grand
    > >> piano.
    > >
    > >How detailed? 88 keys?
    >
    > http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...1_piano203.jpg

I can't see the low b flat!

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:24:36 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:25 +0100, [email protected]
    >> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    >> offy) wrote:
    >>
    >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >[]
    >> >> Britain
    >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...5454_2,00.html
    >> >> August 22, 2005
    >> >>
    >> >> 'Piano Man' breaks silence and heads home
    >> >> By Simon Freeman, Times Online
    >> >[]
    >> >> When he was first discovered, the man refused to speak but when
    >> >> presented with a pen and paper, sketched a detailed picture of a grand
    >> >> piano.
    >> >
    >> >How detailed? 88 keys?
    >>
    >> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...1_piano203.jpg
    >I can't see the low b flat!

See it? I couldn't hear it.

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Martin

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:55:57 +0100,
[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy
of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

    >Joe Pessarra <[email protected]> wrote:
    >[]
    >> My wife and I love to visit England, and we really like British TV shows and
    >> series. We solved our inability to catch some fast speaking with accents by
    >> putting our TV on closed caption. We like the accents, but were missing
    >> some important parts of the shows.
    >I know that when Trainspotting was shown in US cinemas, it was often
    >(though not always) shown with subtitles. I've seen UK programmes
    >sometimes use subtitles with regional _UK_ accents! (Usually
    >documentaries etc.)
    >> I have to have my cousin in Northumberland to slow down a little in speaking
    >> sometimes because of his Geordie accent.
    >Ah. There's a useful educational publication in the UK which helps
    >visitors learn Geordie. More info at
    >www.viz.co.uk

I can't watch Taggart on TV first time it's shown. I have to
tape it so that I can replay some bits to make sense of what
was said.

Cheers, Alan, Australia

On 22 Aug 2005 06:06:25 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    > offy wrote:
    >> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:55:57 +0100, [email protected]
    >>> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    >>> offy) wrote:
    >>> >Joe Pessarra <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >[]
    >>> >> My wife and I love to visit England, and we really like British TV
    >>> >> shows and series. We solved our inability to catch some fast speaking
    >>> >> with accents by putting our TV on closed caption. We like the accents,
    >>> >> but were missing some important parts of the shows.
    >>> >
    >>> >I know that when Trainspotting was shown in US cinemas, it was often
    >>> >(though not always) shown with subtitles. I've seen UK programmes
    >>> >sometimes use subtitles with regional _UK_ accents! (Usually
    >>> >documentaries etc.)
    >>> >
    >>> >> I have to have my cousin in Northumberland to slow down a little in
    >>> >> speaking sometimes because of his Geordie accent.
    >>> >
    >>> >Ah. There's a useful educational publication in the UK which helps
    >>> >visitors learn Geordie. More info at
    >>> >
    >>> >www.viz.co.uk
    >>> " How lucky for the mystery man found wandering on the Isle of Sheppey
    >>> that he was a virtuoso on the piano. Had he been a maestro on the
    >>> cymbals and stood clashing them together all day, I doubt his carers
    >>> would have been as impressed.
    >>> J Thorne, Newcastle"
    >> Heh. 'Piano man' was another brilliant example of the media peddling
    >> rumours. First of all, he was a 'virtuoso' pianist, then he only played
    >> with one hand, then only with one finger, then only one note. He was
    >> Czech, or was it Norwegian, or maybe French? No, he's from Bavaria
    >> apparently. Maybe they should just have shut up? :)
    >>
    > we used to watch Rab C Nesbitt with the sub-titles on

Me too.
And Billy Conolly, in the early days.
--
Tim C.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:01:19 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >> we used to watch Rab C Nesbitt with the sub-titles on
    >Me too.
    >And Billy Conolly, in the early days.

You can watch him with the sound off nowadays and not miss much.
--
Martin

chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy wrote:
    >
    >
    > "Staff at Medway Maritime Hospital in Gillingham gave the tall, blonde
    > man a pen and paper in the hope he would write his name or draw his
    > country's flag."
    >
    > Think about it, folks! :)

Was he wearing one red shoe?

Karen Selwyn

Alan S wrote:
    > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:55:57 +0100,
    > [email protected] (chancellor of the duchy
    > of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
    > >Joe Pessarra <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >[]
    > >> My wife and I love to visit England, and we really like British TV shows and
    > >> series. We solved our inability to catch some fast speaking with accents by
    > >> putting our TV on closed caption. We like the accents, but were missing
    > >> some important parts of the shows.
    > >
    > >I know that when Trainspotting was shown in US cinemas, it was often
    > >(though not always) shown with subtitles. I've seen UK programmes
    > >sometimes use subtitles with regional _UK_ accents! (Usually
    > >documentaries etc.)
    > >
    > >> I have to have my cousin in Northumberland to slow down a little in speaking
    > >> sometimes because of his Geordie accent.
    > >
    > >Ah. There's a useful educational publication in the UK which helps
    > >visitors learn Geordie. More info at
    > >
    > >www.viz.co.uk
    > I can't watch Taggart on TV first time it's shown. I have to
    > tape it so that I can replay some bits to make sense of what
    > was said.
    > Cheers, Alan, Australia

very humourous show, I remember the episode where they sit outside at a
cafe in Glasgow for a drink

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:55:57 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:

    >Joe Pessarra <[email protected]> wrote:
    >[]
    >> My wife and I love to visit England, and we really like British TV shows and
    >> series. We solved our inability to catch some fast speaking with accents by
    >> putting our TV on closed caption. We like the accents, but were missing
    >> some important parts of the shows.
    >I know that when Trainspotting was shown in US cinemas, it was often
    >(though not always) shown with subtitles. I've seen UK programmes
    >sometimes use subtitles with regional _UK_ accents! (Usually
    >documentaries etc.)

The Irvin Welsh movie, The Acid House, had subtitles on some releases.
It needed them too, much more than Trainspotting. The opening scene
where they are in the pub after the football scene is completely
unintelligible.
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"Joe Pessarra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:zSiOe.847$UI.234@okepread05...
    > "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:27:04 +0100, [email protected]
    > > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    > > offy) wrote:
    > >
    > > >The BBC is collecting examples of many local UK accents and dialects,
    > > >and putting them on its website-
    > > >
    > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/
    > > >
    > > >It's not comprehensive, obviously, but there's a lot of interesting
    > > >stuff there nevertheless. Might help some visitors to the UK too! :)
    > >
    > > and might put some off!
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Martin
    > My wife and I love to visit England, and we really like British TV shows
and
    > series. We solved our inability to catch some fast speaking with accents
by
    > putting our TV on closed caption. We like the accents, but were missing
    > some important parts of the shows.
    > I have to have my cousin in Northumberland to slow down a little in
speaking
    > sometimes because of his Geordie accent. My hearing is not the best
either,
    > even with hearing aids.
On a business trip to Pennsylvania I (from Surrey) literally had to
translate for my Paisley (Scotland) colleague, bwtween him and the
Pennsylvanians!

Surreyman

[...]

    > we used to watch Rab C Nesbitt with the sub-titles on

That was the episode when he went to London. Whenever a Londoner spoke,
subtitles in broard Glaswegian appeared.

a.spencer3 wrote on Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:12:11 GMT:


a> "Joe Pessarra" <[email protected]> wrote in
a> message news:zSiOe.847$UI.234@okepread05...
??>> I have to have my cousin in Northumberland to slow down a
??>> little in
a> speaking
??>> sometimes because of his Geordie accent. My hearing is
??>> not the best
a> either,
??>> even with hearing aids.
??>>
a> On a business trip to Pennsylvania I (from Surrey) literally
a> had to translate for my Paisley (Scotland) colleague,
a> bwtween him and the Pennsylvanians!

British accents and dialect expressions can be a real problem
even for British people. I was brought up in the little
West-coast town of Oban, about 90 miles from Glasgow. Altho' I
had visited Glasgow many times, I found understanding local
people very difficult when I first went there to attend college.
It took about a week before my ear was attuned to accents and
speech patterns. However, I went back there recently and was
pleased to find that I had not lost my ability to understand
people in the street.


James Silverton, Potomac Maryland.

and the first to answer was...

"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:27:04 +0100, [email protected]
    > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
    > offy) wrote:
    >>The BBC is collecting examples of many local UK accents and dialects,
    >>and putting them on its website-
    >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/
    >>It's not comprehensive, obviously, but there's a lot of interesting
    >>stuff there nevertheless. Might help some visitors to the UK too! :)
    > and might put some off!
    > --
    > Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >and might put some off!

I certainly won't go to Shetland without a translator :)



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